lexylady

I had two new tyres recently at back and they cleaned the rims etc. due to the pressure prob.... made no difference at all,  in my case, but all my wheels are badly corroded, I guess for me refurb is the only answer but  for Nick5 who posted first, he may benefit from trying that.

I have one tyre in particular losing pressure a lot and am sure it is due to wheel corrosion.   The only answer is to refurbish the wheels which is expensive on what is now an old car but I guess this is probably the problem for you too....most likely wheel corrosion... my lexus wheels started corroding much too early in their life!

Due to the inside wear on the front tyres and the rears down to just under 3mm I am going to treat the Lex to four new tyres when I get back from holiday next week. The problem is which ones? After reading various test reviews and many threads on the subject on this forum I have decided on either the Bridgestones RE050 or the Toyo Proxes T1-R. The price difference at the local tyre dealer is minimal and the Toyo's seem to be the favorite on this forum. So before parting with approx £400 has anyone any comment on the Bridgestones.

I replaced my originals with bridgestones again, am totally pleased with them, and personally dont find them noisy, the inside of my lex is serenely quiet as it always was!! :winky:

Thanks for the prompt reply to my pm WIM and I will monitor the wear. Just a thought a few of the roads that I drive on daily around here have these traffic calming squares. I try driving over them with the wheels on either side (straddling) therefore the inner side of the tyre is taking the wear. (Maybe not......talking c..p)

Impossible to study and give you a real 100% wim reply but in reality the tyre sidewall is more than able to absorb traffic calming obstacles...The deflection is called 'slip angle' ... this is much more intrusive on a long high speed bend due to the additional centrifugal forces than any traffic calming obstacle.

I do remember now that on my first lexus service the guy tried to imply that I had probably been over a lot of traffic bumps when he pointed out that my good looking tyres were in fact worn to baldness on the inside edge where you really could not see it with a general look. I rarely go over bumps so I guess that is a lexus excuse. I am surprised though that a car of this price has a general prob like this, after all tyres are expensive and you do not expect it on an expensive car.... someone at lexus obviously did not do their homework at the beginning. I must look at my second set as they look fine, but i will be really annoyed if they are bald on the inside edges. Also my second set of alloys are corroding worse than the originals did, again this is not what you expect on a car of this price. I must say WIM your website looks good - I wonder why lexus made such a bad mistake if the geo probs are down to them.

your message has proved what I have always believed... you lot are obsessed with geometry checks as the be all and end all, and this just shows that you need to realise this tyre wear is a basic design fault to put it in a nutshell. my tyres has gone the same way from brand new on a brand new car - and your post has proved that it still happens with correct goemetry!!

face it lads it is one of the (very few) downsides of owning a lexus!! :winky:

Nothing wrong being obsessed with saving money and possibly your life.... As MacRS200 said Lexus did get it wrong Geometrically...not by much but nevertheless wrong. The wim set-up has proved successful...every car that comes to me has a problem hence the appointment and every car re-positioned has been fine thereafter, those positions i have made public so i am not trying to capture the recovery market only the awareness market. The situation with rhoseigr's car is indeed unusual but now he has an image of the geometry any future wear can be 'fine-tuned out' this practice is necessary since we are all unique so the positions can only represent a suggestion.

I must say, i was astonished to see that my tyres wore so badly, I did not even realise because if was the inner edges which you just dont see at all easily, they told me on my first service and i had not driven millions of miles etc. The only point i was trying to make was that the guy starting this post went to drury lane diagnostics, who he felt knew what they were talking about, and they told him his geo was within suitable limits........ yet he was there because of this adverse wear, which seems to show that it is not necessarily, or only, caused by wrong geometry. From what I have read here, it is a common prob with lexus. I take on board what you say here about wrong set up by lexus. I have not done anything about mine, as i did not really know what could be done, but my second set of tyres have not gone the same way.... mind you i will try to have a really good look at the inside edges tomorrow.....

your message has proved what I have always believed... you lot are obsessed with geometry checks as the be all and end all, and this just shows that you need to realise this tyre wear is a basic design fault to put it in a nutshell. my tyres has gone the same way from brand new on a brand new car - and your post has proved that it still happens with correct goemetry!!

face it lads it is one of the (very few) downsides of owning a lexus!! :winky:

Ok before you say I told you so, I won't do it again!

Running a bit late today, was eating brekkie in the car, and pulled out of petrol station to make a left turn, whilst eating a sausage with one hand.

ANyway, kerb to my left was 6 inches high and drove into that as I made the turn, hence I have a kerbed chrome rim and one big hole in my Pirelli P Zero!

My question is regarding the wheel, how best to prevent corrosion where it's been curbed? Do I just polish up with NXT metal polish and then apply some clear lacquer?

Hope that sausage was worth it..?

That's interesting, why should one dealer replace all 5 when my dealer is saying they only replace 4?

Can anyone confirm how many it should be? If I get a bit of amunition to throw at them I can maybe persude them to change their minds on this.

They also explained to me why there is such an issue with the corrosion on these........

Lexus uk spec wheels are exactly the same spec as Lexus Japan, the difference is that Japan does not dump thousands of tonnes of salt on their roads so they don't have the same issues with corrosion over there.

Lexus could probably save themselves heaps of money if they changed the UK spec wheels with several coats of lacker. Just a thought.............

Yes, the salt is the cause, Japan so much warmer dont need salt in the winter, but do remember Mr. Frosty, that my replacement wheels are only a year on my car and they are corroding more than the originals actually. I am not a motorway driver etc. and keep the wheels clean, so it just shows you the extent of the problem with the salt. But as I say, even replacement wheels do not solve the problem at the end of the day...... it all happens again...

Took my car to the dealers yesterday for replacement wheels and head unit under warranty. The wheels are the 17"multispoke type in dark grey and had started corroding. As i was handing my keys over i asked a couple of questions -

Q Do you replace all 5 wheels as the spare is corroded as well?

A No, only the wheels on the car (4)

Q Do you replace the centre caps as they are corroded and chipped also?

A No

Q So you replace all the wheels then stick the old tatty centre caps back on, surely not?

A Yep, but if you want i can order you a set which you will have to pay for.

Received a phone call from them when i got back home (20 minutes later), We're sorry but the wheels we thought we had in stock are actually a different colour to yours. So if want silver ones we can do it today, if you want same colour we will need to order, will take a couple of weeks at least.

I explained i wanted same colour, as the car is black and i thought that the dark alloys complement this. So still waiting for my replacements, over 2 months now.

Just wanted hear from any other members who've had their wheels replaced on warranty if they got just 4 or all 5 replaced?

Got the feeling if i had been wearing a designer shirt and beige trousers (like the guy in front of me) I would have received a more satisfactory and friendlier service from my dealers.

PS they actually offered to throw in the centre caps for the inconvenience. Wow, Big deal!!

Took my car to the dealers yesterday for replacement wheels and head unit under warranty. The wheels are the 17"multispoke type in dark grey and had started corroding. As i was handing my keys over i asked a couple of questions -

Q Do you replace all 5 wheels as the spare is corroded as well?

A No, only the wheels on the car (4)

Q Do you replace the centre caps as they are corroded and chipped also?

A No

Q So you replace all the wheels then stick the old tatty centre caps back on, surely not?

A Yep, but if you want i can order you a set which you will have to pay for.

Received a phone call from them when i got back home (20 minutes later), We're sorry but the wheels we thought we had in stock are actually a different colour to yours. So if want silver ones we can do it today, if you want same colour we will need to order, will take a couple of weeks at least.

I explained i wanted same colour, as the car is black and i thought that the dark alloys complement this. So still waiting for my replacements, over 2 months now.

Just wanted hear from any other members who've had their wheels replaced on warranty if they got just 4 or all 5 replaced?

Got the feeling if i had been wearing a designer shirt and beige trousers (like the guy in front of me) I would have received a more satisfactory and friendlier service from my dealers.

PS they actually offered to throw in the centre caps for the inconvenience. Wow, Big deal!!

yes, I had my wheels changed under warranty a year ago, all five no problem, but the bad news is that a year later they are starting to corrode again, after being well looked after and cleaned regularly to avoid salt. Car now out of warranty, have not yet approached them, but dont expect much joy, and take a poor view of this on a car of this price. Not high mileage, not much motorway use, it is unacceptable. also the replacements were not as attractive as my originals which had some frosting on the spokes, replacements were all polished the same. But of course the main problem is.... the problem is still there.... and the car is not four years old yet. Has not happened on my husband's honda.... why can't lexus sort it?? :duh:

Morning All

I have had my IS for 5 weeks and at the weekend got a puncture in the side wall of my rear tyre.

So put the spare on and hot footed it t ATS. They check the other tyres which had all had plenty of tread on.

However 2 of the tyres had cracking all the way round in the tread where the tyre wear markers are.

So I took it back to the dealer who have taken the tyres off and are sending them to Bridgestone to have them checked out. If Bridgestone say that they are OK then I will be paying 50% of the cost for 2 new tyres.

The question is has anybody had anything similar. ?

Thanks

I always use bridgestones on my is sport, as the originals, and had been very happy with them, apart from the fact that the originals wore very unevenly, but that was not obviously a tyre problem... in your case you probably do not know the past history of your tyres as you have only just purchased your car, so who knows .... they may have been over inflated etc. in the past....and you just dont know how it was driven probably.... so the problem may not actually be the quality of the tyres. good luck anyway with that. :winky:

If you kerb an alloy that results in a slight cut in the sidewall of the tyre, does it need to be replaced, or are the sidewalls so thick on these kinds of tyres that its ok

Oh goodness! some of the questions on here make me wonder about you lot..... How long is a piece of string??? take the tyre to a tyre place and they will advise you - surely that is the obvious sensible thing to do, cannot inspect a cut tyre properly over the internet. Also you did not originally say it was a merc tyre, it was assumed you were talking about your lexus tyre. Cannot expect anyone on here to know the thickness of a merc tyre sidewall, or to comment safely on whether you should change it.... I am confused at these banal questions sometimes...... :o

I was at Glasgow dealership getting a 20k service last week. At every stage I was offered no end of additional things I didn't want, including new tyres which would replace the original Bridsgetones which still have 5mm tread.

Price quoted? £150 each, plus £20 balancing. That's exc VAT!

Total would be £998.75 (inc spare which would also need replacing).

Having had a Honda S2000 which needed high quality bridgestones at £350 a set, this quote from Lexus sounds like they're having a laugh!

Comments?

they are not having a laugh... they are taking you for a ride. Yes, I replaced my original tyres which wore completely on the inside edge but not the outside, so i did not immediately notice...I got bridgestones again from a place in Kent for about £120 each tyre, - same as originals. Mind you roadkill, how have you worn tyres AND the spare down so much - even to 5mm - on what you say... perhaps you have got the same uneven wear as I had which of course makes them illegal, my inside edges were bald but was not at all obvious. My husband has a civic type R, and he wa quotted some crazy price by the Honda agent for his new ones - I guess that it always the way at the main dealership. I must say, slightly off subject, but I was also really upset that my lexus service costs almost twice as much as his honda type R service.... i keep meaning to ask them why...

:) Good Afternoon All, I was just wondering if anybody can recommend a good alloy cleaner, which will not only remove brake dust but make it harder (if possible) to stop the dust sticking in the 1st place ?

Thanks in advance

you wont go wrong with just washing with Autoglym, the best car shampoo. Main thing is to wash wheels regularly... :winky: dont let the brake dust stay too long on them. :winky:

Many thanks Lexylady and Ian B. Lexus have agreed rplacement of both front wheels. They say the cause is brake dust but I am not a heavy brake user. Problem is , what happens to the new wheels?

well lyford, you are getting much the same advice from everyone. Brake dust is obviously not the problem, I am definitely not heavy on the brakes and mine went the same way from new - no it is definitely the lacquer which does not resist salt. I have a link with Japan in that my son has been working in tokyo for two years now and he tells me they do not put salt on their roads in the winter and the original lacquer used does not withstand the tons of salt put on our roads in the UK. . it is as simple as that. My replacements have been fine for a year now, but do just wash them over regularly, just the wheels, I am sure this helps and of course removes the salt reasonably quickly from them. Mine are still good... so good luck!

Hi all, my is 200 had the front wheels replaced at the first 12 monthly sevice because of corrosion of the spokes. The wheels are17 inch. I have just booked my car for the second service and the wheels are again corroded. This time worse than before. What is the solution?

that is odd, as I have my wheels changed for the same reason and the replacement set were finished in a different way which should help avoid the problem again. You will see that the surface finish is different to your original wheel (polished on all surfaces, not partly frosted as original IS wheels).. I must say I do not think the replacements look so attractive.....

However, all I would advise you is to keep the wheels clean as far as possible. The salt in winter attacks them and giving them a wash over regularly, especially in winter to remove the salt. even when not washing the whole car, will help the problem andi well worth it. My second set are fine. I don't know whether your dealer with replace them again.... but at least keeping them clean from salt will definitely help. :winky:

Ok I have no knowledge on Wheels/Alloys/Tyres etc, but I got sum off my friends Honda Accord(he says they will b fine) all I do know is there TSW 19's Catalunya

Now in my Max Power mag it says they are 215-35-19 <---what that means I have no idea..

I checked on the tyres for help it says Proxes T1-S 215/35/ZR19 85W

Do these wheels fit without any trouble I was told by my cuz I may need spaces of something, I don't want them all falling off or being destroyed cuz I have no idea what I'm doing..lol :duh:

(also been driving on them for awhile should I stop?)

Another Question

Now the car has not been lowered yet, but if I got it lowered 30mm will that cause any probs..

PS. Forgot to mention it's a 99 IS200 Sport

Thanks for help in advance

Chris

Ok I have no knowledge on Wheels/Alloys/Tyres etc, but I got sum off my friends Honda Accord(he says they will b fine) all I do know is there TSW 19's Catalunya

Now in my Max Power mag it says they are 215-35-19 <---what that means I have no idea..

I checked on the tyres for help it says Proxes T1-S 215/35/ZR19 85W

Do these wheels fit without any trouble I was told by my cuz I may need spaces of something, I don't want them all falling off or being destroyed cuz I have no idea what I'm doing..lol :duh:

(also been driving on them for awhile should I stop?)

Another Question

Now the car has not been lowered yet, but if I got it lowered 30mm will that cause any probs..

PS. Forgot to mention it's a 99 IS200 Sport

Thanks for help in advance

Chris

Ok I have no knowledge on Wheels/Alloys/Tyres etc, but I got sum off my friends Honda Accord(he says they will b fine) all I do know is there TSW 19's Catalunya

Now in my Max Power mag it says they are 215-35-19 <---what that means I have no idea..

I checked on the tyres for help it says Proxes T1-S 215/35/ZR19 85W

Do these wheels fit without any trouble I was told by my cuz I may need spaces of something, I don't want them all falling off or being destroyed cuz I have no idea what I'm doing..lol :duh:

(also been driving on them for awhile should I stop?)

Another Question

Now the car has not been lowered yet, but if I got it lowered 30mm will that cause any probs..

PS. Forgot to mention it's a 99 IS200 Sport

PPS. Took the pic off was 2 big really

oh my goodness, perhaps you are from another planet.... driving a lexus and have no idea about tyre sizes..... i thought lexus drivers were..... well.... never mind - read your handbook....it will tell you your tyre sizes although they are of course printed on the tyres and you say in your message, the readings are the same so obviously are the same size????

Thanks for help in advance

Chris

right, here goes

mine is a Is 200 se, i had 6 rims 2 brand spankers and 1 in good condition and one was a bit tatty, i made a deal and sold them, but i never noticed or relised there were two types of standard rims, the brand spankers are different from the other two, other than the fact that they were cleaner i nvere noticed any difference but after speaking with who i sold them to he told me the difference one is milled shiney and one is painted thye latter being the oldest.

My question is if i get one of my othere refurbed will it match the brand new ones?

And does this mean that the two older ones were not exchanged under warranty? reason for asking is that one of the new rims was the spare in my car (i now have a styling spare), on closer inspection the old ones that i still have that are also tatty have some flaky paint on them.

right, here goes

mine is a Is 200 se, i had 6 rims 2 brand spankers and 1 in good condition and one was a bit tatty, i made a deal and sold them, but i never noticed or relised there were two types of standard rims, the brand spankers are different from the other two, other than the fact that they were cleaner i nvere noticed any difference but after speaking with who i sold them to he told me the difference one is milled shiney and one is painted thye latter being the oldest.

My question is if i get one of my othere refurbed will it match the brand new ones?

And does this mean that the two older ones were not exchanged under warranty? reason for asking is that one of the new rims was the spare in my car (i now have a styling spare), on closer inspection the old ones that i still have that are also tatty have some flaky paint on them.

Oh goodness.... how long have we got!!

oh well Lexaholic, it is nice to know you are in good company. I avoid multi storey car parks at all costs, but of course it is impossible when you go to a shopping centre. Oh dear, where is my ticket?? as I descend the final ramp (with huge kerbs as usual in these places) to the exit and - as I take my eye away quickly to look for the ticket I hear that awful grinding noise from the alloy.

I park quickly (in the bay for people who have forgotten to pay mind you, did not block off anyone else!) and end up having to pay the full daily rate to the ominous looking guy in the office, having been there under two hours, and go home nursing a wrecked alloy as well.

I want to know why these car parks have such deep kerbs, it is not necessary, and adds considerably to the damage if you do hit them. :ban-em:

Mondeo.....?

All cars have skeleton's, wheel offset invites buckles, and we all wear down the pads....

For your information a 3-0-3 is a Motorway pattern of wear and not detrimentle to the car or geometry.

heh - it was the first car I could think of :P

Thanks for the info about the tyre wear, at least that explains it a bit more. It wasn't wear on the brake pads, it was that they were upside down !

Ah well.....I was more than a little miffed that it was my first service with a lexus, and all of these things has gone wrong after 6 months......

Thanks again !

I must say, you complained about the tyres being worn down at your servic e, and said that you 'had only bought the car 10K ago from a lexus dealer...' but surely that does mean that the tyres where definitely BRAND NEW when you bought your second hand car it from the lexus dealer. I bought my IS brand new, and made the comment about the extremely uneven wear, whic is a different issue, but you should not be surprised at having to renew your tyres! wear and tear.... also happens on mondeos.... :duh:

Hello all :)

I have got my IS200 Sport in for the 40k service, and they are telling me that I am at the legal limit on my 2 rear tyres. Seeing as I only bought this 10k miles ago from a Lexus dealer, my questions are: -

1) Does the lexus / RAC inspection specify a tyre tread depth limit to pass ?

2) How many miles should you get from a set of Pirelli P-Zero 18" ? (Mainly motorway driving @ 80 ish)

Possibly a stupid question, I know, but I don't know the answer !

Thanks a lot!

I bought my lexus IS200 sport new, and on the first service was told that my tyres were totally illegal! Looked fine on a general check as I was not expecting them to be worn out at this stage, but apparently the inside edge of the back ones, which you can hardly see from a general look, were completely bald. I changed them for bridgestones again - it is not the tyres at fault but obviously the way they are wearing out on the car. I have read here about a check, but don't quite know where you get that done or how much it costs. My husband is changing the tyres back to front to at least keep the wear even on the present tyres, but I wonder who does this geo check, is it the main dealer or someone who perhaps knows better. I have been so pleased with my IS but this is obviously a general problem.

Recently had my car serviced and enquired about having the wheels sorted (I've kerbed 3 of them) the dealer told me to hang fire because if they rusted before the warranty runs out I would get them replaced. I only have 2 months warranty left. What are the odds?

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I am puzzled why you are desperate to get your alloys changed under warranty when they are not actually showing disintegration - and you only have two months left for it to appear to the extent of getting them changed free of charge..... They wont get changed under warranty unless the problem is evident obviously.Also surprised to find a lexus owner who does not know of the wheel problem anyway!

I think you need to accept that you were one of the lucky ones as far as the wheels are concerned, mine have been changed but the finish was not the same, and not quite so nice as my original wheels, which had a sort of frosting on part of them. Your problem is, as you said, kerbing, and no one will change them for that!! :yack:

ive got the standard alloys on my IS200 and they have blistered flaked and all sorts basicly they're f****d its only on the fronts ones tho. ive looked at others and they are the same too. if i fork out for some new wheels is the same thing gonna happen to them? also live in the sticks no decent car shops up here halfords is about the best it gets does anyone know any good web sites who will deliver and of course cheap and one of a kind what nobody else will have. am i askin for too much?

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yes, i too had this problem and looked on this site for help. surprised to find how common it was. My alloys have all been changed now, but i must say, the ones fitted do not have the same finish as the original ones, which had a slight frosting on some part of the spoke, as far as I remember, but they are fine. just wondering if these too will corrode in time.............

ive got the standard alloys on my IS200 and they have blistered flaked and all sorts basicly they're f****d its only on the fronts ones tho. ive looked at others and they are the same too. if i fork out for some new wheels is the same thing gonna happen to them? also live in the sticks no decent car shops up here halfords is about the best it gets does anyone know any good web sites who will deliver and of course cheap and one of a kind what nobody else will have. am i askin for too much?

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I will be needing new discs for my next M.O.T. ( I already have new pads waiting to go on when I get the discs)  I have seen these on Ebay.

Seems a good price for front & rear. Just wanted to know peoples thoughts on them or if they had any experience with product or company.

The shipping is about £105 (Cos of the weight) So all in it shouls cost around £220

Which is a good price. Unless somebody can steer me in the direction of a reasonable U.K. supplier ?

Discs on Ebay

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the last place i would buy discs would be on eBay, good price or not you generally get what you pay for in this life. hardly worth the chance for brake discs surely

maybe....... but your money isn't :D

Looks good  :D

And where is the diesel auto option - I hear that just like Jag and Honda the diesel engine will be manual only.

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There won't be an auto because it won't help you :)

Diesel driving is like opening a bottel of soda....... pfffffffftttTT! .... and all power is gone

:D :D

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maybeee....... but your money isn't