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Thank you all for the responses - I think given all the facts, I am leaning towards a fairly new IS300H within the 10-year warranty.  F sport.

I didn't know Lexus relax was only introduced last year (so no paid warranty as included with the servicing) so I think for the extra few grand I might as well save myself the hassle and get a car relatively new, in warranty and also including the 2017 safety pack.

Can anyone clarify if the Lexus relax warranty Ie. 10 years/100k miles as long as serviced at lexus, costs?

I'm kind of confused as I've seen some stuff online saying it's included as long as it's serviced at lexus for 12m until 10 years/100k aka 'free warranty'

Or do you have to pay for both the annual warranty and servicing which is expected to be £1000+ PA?

On 9/4/2022 at 12:40 PM, royoftherovers said:

I will share whatever I receive from Lexus CS, Phil

That link is confusing and possibly misleading. It more than implies that the system is checked,but it only guarantees the Hybrid Battery !

Thus if an inverter fails,it will impact the performance/operation of the Hybrid Battery which itself is not faulty ! Hence the need for the 10 year plus extended warranty to be paid for.

On 9/4/2022 at 8:31 AM, wharfhouse said:

The hybrid battery is covered for 15 years and unlimited mileage by Lexus so long as you have a hybrid health check every 12 months or 10k miles (done automatically with a Lexus service or can be paid for). Also there is the Lexus 10 years plus extended warranty that can be taken out after 10 years / 100k miles until the car is 15 years old / 150k miles (whichever comes soonest) at around £500 a year (but requires servicing at Lexus). Of course more items need maintenance and sometimes replacement as a car ages but there are options to limit the risk. 

It seems very excessive to pay for 1. Extended warranty at £500 a year 2. Lexus servicing at £300-700 a year - I was hoping that annually I'd only have to pay £10 road tax, £200-600 on servicing and MOT and £1000-1200 on insurance. 

Sounds like I'm better off getting a car within the 10 year warranty?

10 hours ago, agent_dess said:

Personally I would avoid 13/14 from my observations they seem to have had the most issues and by 15 plate they had ironed all the links out.

Can you elaborate? I haven't heard of this at all

Hi guys,

I'm pretty settled on wanting an F-sport IS300H - Anything from 2013 onwards. At the moment I am conflicted - £15k is the top end of my budget. My annual mileage is very little probably 3-4k. My next car is expected to last me as long as possible.

• £15k gets me a 13/14 IS300H probably around 60-90k miles - which is fine but lout/almost out of warranty. Is this a big deal? - If this was the case I would NOT service it at lexus given the expensive servicing cost but instead get it done cheaper at an independent (FSH doesn't matter as I won't be selling it afterwards)
• £17k or so can instead get me a 15 IS300H around the same mileage but with a good warranty i.e. 2-3 years or so - But I would be obliged to pay for the expensive yearly servicing at lexus which you guys peg as a minimum of £300.

What do you guys recommend?

Thanks.

4 minutes ago, Lex_1988 said:

Sounds like you need a IS300h sport with the blacked out alloys and wing mirror caps. 

 

 

 

 

Yes pretty much, it's beautiful.

The market is quite lacking in choice at the moment so I haven't seen many of these at all

8 minutes ago, cadman2k said:

Given the current and predicted state of the economy holding on a year or two may actually make no difference. 

It also depends on how you intend to purchase a car ( your own ready cash) or a bank/ finance houses cash that needs to be paid back. Given that interest rates are rising then borrowing becomes more expensive also.

Take the view on what your 12-13k will get you in Lexus terms v what it will get you in other terms ,(from the likes of ford/vauxhall). You may sharp conclude that even if you think that prices are high then what it would by you from another manufacturer just doesn't make the grade. By a car that's been looked after with FSH and you cannot go wrong when you should get another 80,-100k miles out of it if you continue to look after.

The market for cars just now is a bit like houses...put off and you just never know which way they will go in terms of value.

Good luck in your search

That's a good point. I'm going to use personal finance for 5 years. I can afford to pay in cash, but at around ~250 a month that's a lot more manageable.

Yeah at the moment the IS is highest value for money especially considering the high price of petrol too.. Most reliable and most economical. Any FSH or specifically lexus dealer FSH?

True on house prices. Except those unlike cars will go up fairly consistently given the lack of housing in the UK

14 minutes ago, CypressPhil said:

Oooh that’s a tough one mate. I can tell you that I purchased 65 plate f sport with 44k on the clock back in Jan 2020 and the value of it hasn’t changed a lot in the 2 and a bit years and 10k miles that I’ve had it. The used car market is bonkers right now. It’s impossible to say when it will change.

So the real question is, do you want to wait any longer before treating yourself to a new motor? If the answer is no, then for me the Lexus is a no brainer. Do yourself a favour and drive something well made, fairly rare and interesting to look at rather than being yet another german car driving clone. 
 

Don’t get me wrong, the BM is a good car to drive and a mate of mine had a VRS which he loved, but I’d choose a Lexus any day. 

Thanks for the feedback. Do you mind me asking how much you paid? I'm trying to benchmark against historical prices but can't find much info..

True good point. We've got a little one on the way at the start of next year so it might make sense to get it soon.

I'm definitely going to pop into a dealer and give it a try. It is my number one at the moment.

14 minutes ago, IS300FSPORT said:

Lexus attracts a certain type of character marketed or usually in the hands of the more mature people.

Dont buy it if you intend to do mods on it, it just does not suit this type of car. Its actually a bigger version of a Prius & everybody knows theyr not cool & dont have the street cred.

Saying that if you keep as it is without turning it into a chav mobile you will appreciate how well built they are generall very reliable in standard form. 

All the best!

Thanks for the response. I get what you're saying! I'm 30+ , not chavvy I promise but I've seen IS with black alloys and I think it really makes it look a lot more cool - the stock wheels just don't do it for me. A light tint and black alloys is more than enough as I don't really care to do much else! The body styling is great already.

Just now, Ala Larj said:

I’m that case wait 18 months and make a decision then!

Haha - I know we can't predict the future, but if prices only dropped 1k next year I'd be happy because I could enjoy my lexus now! 

If it was 3k I'd feel a bit annoyed...

1 minute ago, Ala Larj said:

I wouldn’t worry too much about the cost per se as it’s impossible to judge whether or price will go up or down in the next couple of years. However, getting an IS or any Lexus is a no brainer especially if you want to keep it for a while. They’re comfortable, quality and reliable. Take a test drive and if you like it buy it. You’re almost guaranteed it won’t go wrong as long as you look after it and get it serviced regularly. 

Thanks for the response. Well everyone is speculating that used car prices will drop significant between spring 2024 and end of 2024 - coupled with the fact that the mark up rate is supposedly 30% higher than what it was, this might mean for a car now I'm paying 3kish more than i need to - which Is quite a big saving for me.

It looks like a great car. If I do end up getting one I'm going to get the windows tinted, slap on some black alloys and some interior mood lighting like the Mercedes 

Hi everyone.

I currently drive a Honda jazz 2006...and after getting a new job think I've been due an upgrade for a while. My budget is around 12-13k but that's really the top end. I think I'm ok with a car around 80k miles.

At the moment the IS300H from around 2012 onwards is my first choice. For that price I get a model around 2014-14 at 70-80k miles for around 12-13.5k.

I understand used car prices are the worst they've ever been.

My question is, is the 300H marked up that much? How much would the same car cost 2 years ago?

I can hold off on my purchase but I'm really really eager to get a new car as I'm looking for something nice to drive!

I'm also considering competitors such as the C200 saloon/estate, Octavia vrs, 320i

Thanks