oh i get you now.. i've heard about them too but i'd rather keep the dash as it's suppost to look. just got a stereo from a breakers in leeds which is a proper uk lexus one which lexus told me to buy, but they tried to fit it with no luck.. they reckon it's an eight speaker one and i need a six speaker unit..?? really i just need to get my hand on a six speaker unit if any-one can help..:?: