Bigchad

16 hours ago, Texas said:

Shame that your first toe in the water so to speak was with ( in my opinion) the worst car that ever had the Lexus 'L' on it.

shame also as if you had got the petroleum version I reckon you'd still be behind the wheel, and the bonnet hinges would Deffo had not been used as much as yours!

just gotta say that my current car has got to be the best I have ever had.

paul m.

This was actually my 4th lexus having owned 3, 200 sports in the past which were all superb drivers cars unlike the diesel which should o been scrapped at the idea stage!

Sadly I have had to leave the brand even after selling its left me about 3.5k left to pay..Luckily I work for nissan who do a lease scheme so I'm presently driving a Juke Techna cant not really it costs £162 a month all in,insurance tax and servicing which after cancelling my other insurance/tax/breakdown and paying off most of the finance only leaves me about £20 a month worse off so not to painfull. quite fortunate really to be able to do that just feel for people who have had to offload this model with huge losses.

Well as of yesterday I no longer own the money pit which was my formally beloved 220 f sport..stunning car,beautiful driver but smokes more than Dot Cotton,practically every bolt on engine ancillery was changed(some more than once)..Since october its blead me dry so sadly it had to go..as above Au Revoir my friend...

I havnt but thanks for the heads up,I will certainly take a peek when the jobs in progress,,cheers

Arghhh! today I had a smoke episode but not to be beat having changed the turbo for a 100% clean drive for over 200 miles it would seem the refufb unit may have stood dry too long so not one to give up I've actually bought a recon unit from a very reputable source Namely Nerings in Germany,I've also bought a catch tank for the breather system (car manufacturers wont fit these due to the regular cleaning needed!! Fact),,,SO........

The hands on work certainly  saved a few quid but it gave the game away seeing where someone had paint marked all the hoses and joints to put it back together..as said I'm no mechanic but it says to me if you dont know how it goes together should you really be taking it apart!! On the turbo (and the majority of parts) there are certain marks/codes to determine its age( sad but almost 30years in the car industry rubs off) on digging the failed unit is at least 4 years older than the car and said dealer just shrugged and said the garage preps the mechanicals,strange as he was glad to give me the list of items/jobs done pre delivery but no-where does it state turbo replacement..I'm just pleased its finally sorted as like yourself I need a reliable car (hence the marque past and present) just wished the dealer who I have personally dealt with for over 20 years just had the balls to say if it smokes we know what it is...sad and dishonest but thats the last of my hard earned he will ever see!

4 hours ago, Shahpor said:

Not trying to be funny, but I am struggling to understand what this post is trying to say?

Sad to hear what has happened to you Steven.

Honestly, I probably wouldn't have this car if it wasn't for the warranty.  It is not just the cost saving, but the convenience factor as well.  I would like to think that if something similar happened to me, the car would be delivered to the dealer, I would get a loan car and a phone call when it was ready to be collected. 

For someone who relies heavily on my car, this is an important consideration.

At least, like you say, £120 a month for a new car isn't a bad deal, so hopefully it will keep you going hassle free for now.

Appreciate the reply....just my feeling regarding the fact its a 220d!! lexus dont want this car in existence and the quicker it dies is better for them,..In all honesty its a fab car and maybe I was being a bit harsh! TBH I do love it and after a bit of aggressive questioning the dealer has admitted fitting a turbo (origin unknown) to equipe the mot and sale of the car..I'm an honest chap and did ask him (after signing for the car) if he new of any problems..you can guess the reply!!  Well few days in the car runs fine after my turbo transplant and in fact is returning MPG figures its never had previously so today the rear brakes were sorted(again) and its sitting pride o place on my drive where it should  be!! I will order a new cartridge for the turbo as said the one running now was a refurb so first signs o smoke its off!! As for the car lease scheme I'm no snob but I like my creature comforts that I do work hard for and couldnt really see myself in a Micra for the next 3 years...

The real shame of this is now the car runs as it should(I will state i'm no mechanic but have been building cars for 29 years now( and the son of a brilliant engineer hence the hands on ) Having owned 5 petrol is's in the past the marque to me is the one...sadly the financial loss I will take on this car will leave me side tracked for sometime until i can recoop the loss...fortunatly (financially) I work for a motor company lease cars  to employees,,,I can actually lease a new car complete (insurance,,tax,,servicing etc)  for less than 120 a month so thats the plan,,sad to leave but what would lexus do,,,,nothin as they just want this model in the scrap yard!!

I understand the majority of Lexus owners wont understand the pictures but basically blacks bad....silver is good!

so to sum up the black bit failed badly,,,on your trip to the dealer he will firstly apologise on how this could o possibly happened (without knowing himself but offering you some rare coffee until he has something you will plausably accept) on delivery of the full sp from the workshop temp it would appear the wobble sprocket came loose damaging the time spring stopping the hamsters to work the water pump..resulting in..Its Turbo Failure sir!! but as your at Lexus its around 5k to repair and sadly your warranty expired 3 minutes before we got your email (hamsters  needed water,,got t keep em serviced or they die ironically)Ring any bells!!

I love this car but thats its....Not long back I gave this car a raving review,best looking car I've ever owned and it is..most kitted out with the multimedia ML system etc etc,,Sad to say for all its plus points in the last 6 months its become a mechanical bad dream culmitating in a large cloud of smoke with a blown turbo...Ironically due to the previous smoke issues it had which were all cured on a temporary basis I did suspect the turbo was at fault...Now the ironic bit...Given my thoughts I bought a 2nd turbo which I re-furbed ready to pop on some months ago..The smoke magically vanished then came back..replaced a few sensors ,cleaned a few usual suspects and off it went again...THEN in one almighty smokescreen on my way to nightshift (after 6 days off argh!!!!) on sat the turbo decided to dump oil thro the exhaust to the undrivable point..car was recovered home whilst I went to work..After a joyus 13hr shift I went to remove the turbo only to find on the exhaust side the nuts were rounded already...hmmm!! So thinking on my toes and having rebuit the replacement unit I relised the vane side could remain attached to the zaust and just swap the turbine side so of I went,,Soon became apparent that this wasnt the 1st time it had been done given the tell tail markings on the pipes (for re assembly) by some previous mech..still chin up off it came and the refurb one fitted (2 hr job on your own if your handy with spanners) oil/coolant topped up and up it fired..yup smoke due to the already present oil in the system but onwards and upward as this is my baby...£30 on BP's finest and set off down the motorway..revs at 2200/2500 for a good 25 mile and the smog cleared so 25 miles return, yee result...mpg at 60/65 high 40's and into the 50's at times..turbo pulling great job done...Time for bed (up for 26 hrs...worked 13hrs..2 hrs in the cold changing turbo and 80 min drive squinting in the side mirror) Oh yeah really...the rear brakes started squeeling in reverse and having just been replaced for that very reason just ended the love affair for me boo!!,,I love fixing things but i draw the line at fixing things thats been fixed at great cost so..we are getting divorced!!!so if anyone wants a divorced lovely pearl F sport before we buy your car gets it.........few pics of the doomed impeller and 1 of the shiny refurb turbine.

Was actually hoping to get the turbo off yesterday but with the snow and a bout of manthrax it aint happened..will take plenty o pics tho when it does..probably whip the egr cooler off too to inspect!

 IS220d....Ok the egr system needs cleaning now and again but what I would like to know is the egr pipe where it meets the block is that a straight channel thro to the cooler on the other side of the engine and if so should this not be part of the clean and maybe all the parts linked..cooler,actuator etc??

Thats the little devil!!!

Few people may have followed previous threads regarding the is220d smoke problem myself included...

My is220d was on76k when out of nowhere it started smoking at around50% operating temp followed by poor turbo performance bad mpg and basically being embarresing to drive.

Have to say I researched  said problem thro every forum/mechanics sites etc only to find its a widespread problem with every motor lexus/toyota fitted with this engine but with no conclusive results...However!!!!

In a chance meeting witha friend who built his own TD rally car using a Toyota turbo he just said..Ah yeah sounds like a dodgy map sensor!!

On this info I whipped the map off (2min job) sprayed some electrical contct cleaner in there and WOW!! seriously it was like a new car..performance was restored..mpg jumped from30's to 40's and no smoke at all...well until 7 days later smoke returned!! again cleaned the map and hey presto!! new map sensor orderded and I love my car again!! really hope this helps folks as I know how frustrating the smoke issue is!

as above sounds like your Battery..as matter of course during cold periods I pop a charger on every few weeks,,maybe over the top but that works for me,,its a large diesel engine that really takes its toll on the batt when cold,short journeys with the  heated seats,radio,cabin heater,lights etc will suck the life out of even the best Battery,remember its an energy store and can only put out whats put in..

If its non fauly take thro your insurance..mine was hit 18months ago needed the front offside totallly replacing and being pearl white I was sceptical of the colour match,on returning the car I couldnt of been happier the repair was superb (it did cost 6.5k tho) all genuine parts and no colour mismatch at all..picture of mine and the Juke that did it!!

Got the workshop cd rom somewhere...digging time!!!

aw man back to work tommo or this turbo would be off!!

Just to answer ya previous question I thought the turbo was iffy but having never changed/serviced one I bought a unit from an accident damaged motor to play about with before embarking on having a go..my turboturned out to be fine so just decided to refurb this one just incase..ya never know

6 minutes ago, Shahpor said:

Ok, posting at the same time just gets confusing

So is this the actuator for the wastegate?

 

I thought this was for the EGR cooler as I mentioned before.

without removing the turbo its quite tricky to see what the actuator is actually attatched too and where the pipework goes it def operates some valve on the manifold but surel the waste should be on the compresor side?? got me intrigued now

The wastegate is actually attached to the exhaust minifold just prior to the turbo..odd but true

vane linkage

7 minutes ago, Shahpor said:

Hang on, one thing has occurred to me;  Does the turbo have the vanes in the exhaust side instead of a traditional wastegate?

If so, what is the second actuator for since I can't see a second linkage on the turbo?

Sorry for all the question.

no probs the vanes at low revs direct more exhaust gas directly onto the turbine at higher revs they close off making it a more natural turbo effect making it easier for the gas to exhaust it only diverts a small amount..I have pic but keeps saying theres a problem uploading grrr

no it just measures the pressure in the manifold but electronically operates a solenoid on the vac line between it and the wastegate could be something like pipe fatigue or dirt! oh the smoke again if its dumping pressure the superbrain may be telling the injectors its all go then suddenly it aint that fuel has to go somewhere usually out ya pocket and into the atmosphere..its a huge circle of gadgets which im mo not needed!!

Well I'm no mechanic but have looked into this hugely due to the smoke prob I was having..The wastegate is instructed to open when max or indeed overboost may be an issue..this is controlled by a sensor located on the intake manifold behind the egr..if its dirty then it may be throwing false readings to the gate..its a 1 bolt removal (depending on finger size!!) and blast it with carb/electrical cleaner,very similar to cleaning the maf just a bit more awkward.Itsa mixture of superbrain ecu working with mechanical items..the brain always wins!!