Bill Dawes

David I see you went for the Takumi pack, I am trying to see what justifies the extra £3k for the Takumi over the Premium Pro pack, 360 degree camera and cooled seats as far as I can see, have I missed something else substantial (leaving aside the extra buttons for seat memory, must be all of a tenner for those) Bill D.

You've missed my point Peter, I didn't cancel it because of lack of folding mirrors, I had already said that although annoying it wasn't a deal breaker, the lack of seat setting memory is. I take your point that you pays your money........ I really didn't want to be paying £480 a year tax rather than £145. My real issue is that I am paying for all the gubbins that costs the money, electric seat motors, same for steering wheel adjustment, switches, relays, cabling, chips etc, why not the extra few quid to include memory buttons, it should be part of the package, it just makes no sense at all to me, spoiling the ship for a ha'porth of tar scenario. Bill D.

Well guys after much Lexus site searching to say nothing of heart searching, discussions with sales at my Lexus dealers, I have reluctantly cancelled my order so won't be joining the Lexus club after all. It still leaves me utterly bemused at what the thinking was on the part of the Lexus marketing bods that made them think that premium brand car with a £8k package upgrade including 8 way electric seats, electric mirrors (albeit no auto fold) electric steering wheel adjustment, smart door entry, didn't deserve a couple of buttons for seat setting memory. The only pack with this on is the Takumibut that incurs a penalty on road licence fee of £335 making it £480 per year instead of £145. A heavy price to pay for a couple of buttons and a software change. My wife and I decided we would go to one car between us earlier in the year and we have very different seat settings so I know it would drive us mad resetting everything every time we swop. My lowly Kia Niro solves this admirably with a two memory feature. Does anyone from Kia UK read these forums does anyonyone know? Ah well maybe one day when the marketing team have detoxed from too much Saki they will see things a bit more clearly. Bill D.

My Kia Niro has electric drivers seat that has easy exit, ie.seat moves back to aid exit and entry. Anyone know if the UX electric seat is the same. Bill.

As I have said, it is more an annoyance than a major fault although countless times I have looked back to see if I had locked my Niro and reassuring to see the mirrors folded in but it's just totally mystifying to not include it on the Lexus, does not make sense to me on any level. It did take some heart searching to change my Kia Niro to be honest which is an excellent car. Some ingenious packaging design by Lexus has managed to cram less space into a bigger car, poor legroom in the back and a smaller boot than the Niro. Premium brand and 10 year warranty won me over, also styling of the UX although a bit marmite, I wanted something that didn't look like a clone of every other small SUV type on the market. Bill D

No unfortunately it is nbased on list price, I could have bought a low mileage used Takumi at £36500 but tax still based on original list price. Bill D.

Peter, I did buy the model that suits me, the UX Premium Pro which is one step down from the Takumi but does not incur the over 40 grand higher road fund fee of £480. The premium pro is very well equipped including electric memory seats, for this reason for the logic behind the omission of auto fold mirrors totally eludes me, I have them on my Niro 4, a very good car but not a premium brand. I would love an explanation from whoever at Lexus made that decision but then car manufacturers marketing decisions over the years frequently does not have much logic in my mind. My Niro is a case in point, when I bought it I would have preferred a plug in hybrid but the trim level only went up to Niro 3, my self charging model is a higher spec Niro 4, baffling. Think I will try a letter to Lexus UK to see what response I get. Maybe Lexus will include it on the spec before mine is due next May, we can but hope. Bill D.

Hi all, my first topic on this forum, just ordered a UX Sonic Titanium with Premium Pro spec. Excellent levels of kit except one perplexing ommission, auto fold mirrors. It's not a deal breaker but as I have it on my current car, a Kia Niro 4, I am truly staggered that it is not on a premium brand and one down from top Takumi spec. I know I can just press a button to fold but what totally mystifies me is that the mirrors are motorised, as is the door locking so I am sure a line of coding in the software is all that's needed. Totally baffled. Otherwise looking forward to delivery, predicted next May. Bill D.