Mark D

That is too generous of an offer - I couldn't have you booking a day off work, could I not pay STS for your time, just for the duration of the set up. I'd be just like a normal customer to them, except you'd be dealing with me on the phone. No point in wasting a days holiday for the sake of an hour.

It would probably be an industry first.

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Naaaah, i get 30 days holiday a year ( six weeks ) one day is no loss. all i need from you is as much notice as possible, or i can write the procedure for you to take.

The time factor for the geometry on average is 1 hour 30 min, with the link i had with Mr Morse his geometry took, as i remember about 4 hours, talking the company through it.... so as you see i cannot support you if i were at STS, but i can 100% here at home :D

Today i set an IS that had European Castor positions, it needed small front camber correction, before adjusting i mentioned you and the Castor problem and i said 'watch how i correct' this non-adjustable Castor, end of job cambers re-set/ Castor's re-set 'UK' positions / toe re-set....

Let me know :D

Hello again

Not been on here for a while due to house move - lots of work still going on because I moved in to an empty shell, but I have got agreement from a tyre place that I can have phone guidance for a geometry session.

I hope to get somthing organised soon - would it suit you better if I could get it done on a Saturday?

Some possible good news Tony - I've been told by a guy on a local forum that one of our large independant tyre centres let him pay for the alignment and do it him self.

If they let some one do that, then they should be open to cronstructive input to a geometry session.

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WOW that's a new one..... reads very good. What i would like you to do if its ok with you is this.

1: allow me to write the procedure and the settings

2: give me notice for the adjustment day

3: i will then book the day off work and provide a 'live link' for you and the centre.

This is not a problem i have done the same for Anees and Mr Morse, i said i would help and i stand by my word....... to the end!

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That is too generous of an offer - I couldn't have you booking a day off work, could I not pay STS for your time, just for the duration of the set up. I'd be just like a normal customer to them, except you'd be dealing with me on the phone. No point in wasting a days holiday for the sake of an hour.

It would probably be an industry first.

Some possible good news Tony - I've been told by a guy on a local forum that one of our large independant tyre centres let him pay for the alignment and do it him self.

If they let some one do that, then they should be open to cronstructive input to a geometry session.

just looks like the inside wheel spinning its @ss off, no LSD then

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The bottom three pictures show smoke from the outside wheel.

I'm sure Mark wont mind if i expose the content of the pm. Today he is moving house and i don't want the content to go cold!

Don't mind a bit.

And no Colin, I didn't get a refund - I couldn't really say anything since I didn't know what to tell him to say he was wrong, and he did let me decide what way the Camber and toe were set (mistake on my part for asking )

Maybe when I get it sorted (at a different Centre) I could write to the company explaining that my tracking was not set right and ask for a refund.

For some reason, it is not as expensive over here for the Geometry - I was quoted £35 and got charged £30 since I bought 4 18" SP9000's at the same time.

Thanks all for your concerns - and Thanks again Tony for your relentless support.

This world needs more Tony's :D

Bugger me after all that too :P

Least you know how to count in binary now, there's a house down here and they have the house number as binary, I thought it was quite clever but I'm just a geek

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it's your house - isn't it? :P

Scary pm!... really 'scary!'

Actual content belongs to Mark D.

It would seem that armed with knowledge coursed some panic and now things are worse.

'To be continued'.......

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Not to worry - as discussed, I'll seek out a tyre center who is willing to cooperate with me - and we can take things from there :)

Hi Tony,

I've sent you a PM about my visit today. No print out unfortunatley :(

All booked for tomorrow at 10am - should be fun.

I'll report back soonest.

You were nearly there - just keep going.

To convert numbers from decimal to binary requires successive division.

To manually convert from a decimal to a binary number, start with the decimal number and begin dividing by the binary number base (base "two"). For each step the division results in a remainder of 1, use '1' in that position of the binary number. When the division results in a remainder of 0 instead, use '0' in that position. Stop when the division results in a value of 0. The resulting binary numbers are ordered from right to left.

For example, the decimal number 327 converts to binary as follows:

327 / 2 = 163 remainder 1

163 / 2 = 81 remainder 1

81 / 2 = 40 remainder 1

40 / 2 = 20 remainder 0

20 / 2 = 10 remainder 0

10 / 2 = 5 remainder 0

5 / 2 = 2 remainder 1

2 / 2 = 1 remainder 0

1 / 2 = 0 remainder 1

Therefore the decimal number 327 equals the binary number 101000111.

Pure work of art that is :D

Wonder what model thats destined for

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Probably mats drift car :P

I think I'll have a good read over your site before I go down. I'm thinking I might go Wednesday morning if work permits. I take possession of my new house on Thursday, so thime won't be somthing I'll have a lot of after that.

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I will support you at any point if needed! PM me if you want any contact #

In addition it may help if i write the full procedure for adjusting the geometry on the IS200/ 300/ SC and either display it here or on my site.

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Sounds like a good idea - then next time I get the geometry done, I'll go somewhere else - and ask if they are willing to follow the procedure - if not then it's on to the next place until I find someone who is willing to approach the job with an open mind.

I want to find out what happened with Bing Crosby's kids

I think I'll have a good read over your site before I go down. I'm thinking I might go Wednesday morning if work permits. I take possession of my new house on Thursday, so thime won't be somthing I'll have a lot of after that.

i'm a fat b'stard if thats any help :D

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Would that be a skinny fat b'stard, a normal fat b'stard or a fat fat b'stard?

Wouldn't a skinny fat b'stard be along the same stupid lines as a giant midget.

would be interesting to watch someone blow themselves to smitherines while drill holes into the fuel tank to fix the sub box.

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Don't laugh, I did that once - at a sound off competition in Letterkenny.

They were going to disqualify me for not having the box secured so I fired some screws through the sub box and into the foor.

Thankfully I was driving a diesel at the time. All worked out well and I broke the Irish record for SPL.

I think when this is resolved, I'll have to write a little letter to the head office detailing the situation - and include a link to the wheels-inmotion website for reference material when they realise they need to retrain.

You are welcome!... don't forget 'Geometry' is all i do and know, some 25yrs at it  and i still have a lot to learn...... the possibilities are endless and so is the lack of understanding within the industry, i feel real concern for people like you that need to seek help after repairs are done by a so called 'expert', which you paid for and now dispute the outcome.

Feeling worried about your situation i need to 'up-date' your armour 

When the camber is lowered to 37'- the 'toe' will rotate 'negative' by about 10/ 15mm, it's the recovery of the 'toe' that allows the wheel to rotate around the 'kingpin' and move the castor... 'But'

They must do another castor swing!.... 

'what's this'

The geometry is 3D so the method involved captures certain angles with the front wheels on a lock.... after any adjustment there 'will' be a need to re-capture the new positions, this is done by the 'castor swing'.

If the new print shows the camber in its new position but 'NO' movement in the castor i would be because they didn't do another 'swing'!

Does anyone here have one of my printouts you can display!

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I'm starting to feel bulletproof now :)

Is a 'caster swing' a basic alignment term they are likley to be familiar with?

I think I understand why it will fix it now - which should help when I'm 'discussing' the matter.

Does this sound right?

As the camber is adjusted towards the negative, the wheel will 'toe out' - then the toe is pulled in by rotaing the wheel around the kingpin which moves the wheel forward and brings the Caster in to spec l

'F**king cheeky s*d!!... i feel really sorry for you!.. how dare they 'belittle you like this :tsktsk:

View this!..... on your print does the nsf camber read -37'.. does the osf read +4'... it does!..... both are 'in the green' but the osf camber position is 'Wrong'.

The reason for the 'Advanced' Castor position is 'Absolutely' due to that + camber position!

Of all the 110 or so IS 200's and 300's i have set from LOC alone nearly everyone needed the Castor to be re-set ( indirectly ) 'Don't' just believe me.... 'ask' the members!.......'members' tell him!.

For your 'Armour!' one simple law with geometry is the final result.... albeit good or bad there is an absolute need for 'symmetry', 'Tell' them to explain why your front camber angles are /  /  ? ...... insist that they move the osf camber to 37'- and do you have an 'email address'..... i feel they need 'Education' :winky:

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I don't feel belittled, because I was able to sit there and tell him that he had not done the job right - knowing that it was down to his ignorance.

I feel pity for him, for not being able to take the opportunity to develop his knowledge and understanding of his job - just so he wouldn't look bad.

I've checked them out and can't find an email address - but I like your style :)

Symmetry - so simple and obvious - yet overlooked by some one who does this 'everyday'

I'm sooooo looking forward to reminding him about his "guarantee" that the caster won't be affected by the camber.

Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you!

Expect nothing more!.... the geometry was not complete, as indicated and explaind all should become matter of fact!....i will/ follow/ support/ explain any area to you or for them here/ pm/ email/ work # or home# to resolve this simple geometricall problem.......

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Pride is a terrible thing!

I went back to the Tyre Centre today to ask about getting the geometry corrected.

The guy told me it was not possible to adjust the caster on the IS.

I told him it was, indirectly by adjusting the Toe and camber

He told me it might change it a bit, but not significantly enough to bring it with in the green limits. "I guarentee it"

I explained your offer to talk him through it

He declined "that won't be neccessary"

I asked him if he knew Ackermans theory

He said no - with a blank look on his face

I asked if he would try adjusting the camber to see if it works

He agreed, but again guaranteed it wouldn't fix it. "we adjust cars here every day etc"

With him being unwilling to talk to you in case you show up the fact that he can't do his job right - what information should I arm myself with when I go down again.

I don't mind reading up on some theory, if needs be, to talk to him (or his boss).

Thanks again for your help.

No noises is a good sign, really.

Take the hard disk out and try it in slave mode (change jumpers on back of hard drive: should be a sticker on it to say which jumpers to change) in another PC.

good luck.

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cool

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If that doesn't work - let me know, I think I have a decent data recovery disc that you can boot from a floppy.

I had a SATA 160GB disc that died on me and windows would not recognise it unless I formatted it.

Using this program, I was able to recover all my files.

Thank you every one for your advice - I'll go check out a few of the ideas.

The value at present is only about £600, not a fortune, but I wouldn't mind having the ability to use the money in case I need it ( buying a new house at the minute)

Hello people,

I was in a share save scheme with Nortel Networks, who I worked for a few years ago.

When I left they gave me a certificate for the shares I had accumulated - does any one know what the best way would be to convert this in to money?

Ta,

Mark

I agree - the lengths he goes to is unbelievable - and his knowledge is amazing

Good question:.....As things read the car will drift left, at high speed the steering will 'tremble' and feel 'worrid'

Left turn in will be light, right heavy.

Tyre wear will result from this set-up through the 'toe out on turns' ( Akerman ) theory......... long story?...... boring read!.. Facts are the geometry recovery was incomplete.... just get them to put things right!.....then display the results here 

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I did notice when driving that the car had a slight left pull, I wasn't sure if it was geometry or just the road camber - but now I am wiser.

I'll be back down to them this weekend, and I'll let you know how I get on - hopefully including a new print out with all boxes green

Thank you ever so much kind Sir.