Hi thanks for replying I been on the bmw forums for years no one ever replies or helps I will try to be clearer when I turn on ignition foot on brake and press start instead of steering wheel moving to previous setting it stays put and I get the check vgrs on the dashboard turn off and on a few times car will then start and drive perfectly I have tech stream but haven’t found out how to use it don’t want to screw anything else up I have 2 cables obd to usb so they should connect fine I’m hoping so any advise on fixing vgrs or how to use tech stream would be appreciated plus the car was a private purchase so no dealer help