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You're joking! Cam belt changes, oil changes, transmission oil changes, spark plugs, de-coking, etc. And ample opportunity for the clowns supervised by monkeys to trash your car.

Disappointing. As well as HFC engines it also has hydrogen ICE cars. I want cars powered by electric motors where you get HUGE torque, only one gear and NEGLIGIBLE maintenance.

But who's telling the truth?

The Hyperion's 1600km/1000mile range would make it easier to roll-out the hydrogen infrastructure. It would make it worthwhile to go on a long trip to fill up, which only takes 5 minutes. It only weighs as much as a small car because it's carbon-fibre and titanium. The only problem is price. Also the video, suspiciously, doesn't show it going around a track despite claiming a 0~60 time of only 2.2s and a hypercar top-speed. What gives?

Then buy this: https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/354858/new-hydrogen-powered-viritech-apricale-hypercar-unveiled

You have to ask why the Hyperion isn't making bigger waves in the media.

It's not a case of it existing. It's whether or not it's the information that one is looking for. As it turns out, it isn't. It looks like they're only catering to heavy duty trucks and not cars.

Do you have a linkt to any news on BP's hydrogen roll-out?

Actually, the Moon is slowly drifiting away.

BYD Seagull is sub-£8000 electric supermini for China Four-seater is smaller than the Ford Fiesta; offers up to 100bhp and 252 miles of range https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/byd-seagull-sub-£8000-electric-supermini-china Other articles claim it's 0~60 time is 5 seconds and it's less than 4m long. The larger battery is only 38.88kWh, so presumably it will be cheaper to replace, assuming these things CAN be replaced.

Small HGVs are being banned from 2035 and large ones from 2040, ALLEGEDLY. But so far there's no infrastructure for hydrogen. Tesla's semi takes a MEGAWATT. Imagine the queues for that!!!! Eventually, they'll have to roll-out hydrogen for industrial usage. Then the filling stations will want the extra income from fuelling cars too. It's just the government who want you to buy heat-pumps and battery powered cars and then "all by yourself" figure you need solar panels and wind turbines, when you get a huge electricity bill. It'd be nice to have your own electolyser and then power your house and car from the sun, wind and rain!!! Apparently hydrogen fuel cell cars only need a few filters changed for servicing. Batteries lose their capacity to hold charge resulting in a huge bill to replace them. Battery swapping means you're a captive customer.

There's no way the grid can take all of us owning battery powered cars. After several years, your battery pack won't accept charge any more and you've got a very expensive brick. Large vehicles don't work with batteries. Elon Musk has a semi. But get this, it takes 1 MEGAWATT to charge it. There's just no getting round the huge amount of power to charge batteries. Eventually the hydrogen filling stations will want to attract car owners rather than just truck drivers. They're (apparently) rolling out plastic lined pipes for the hydrogen on the gas grid. Heat pumps don't work ESPECIALLLY if it gets cold.

Aaaargh! You're making fun of me!

They're LITERALLY where the rubber meets the road; about 16 in² each. I don't like to gamble which is why I would never buy a Tesla.

I've just read (in the Telegraph?) that some are closing down. But we know the House of Lords has protested against giving hope to those of us who want hydrogen cars. The only battery powered car I might buy would be where you can swap the battery as after several years, it loses the capacity to hold charge and you're left with an expensive brick. But that requires renting the battery and you still have to queue to charge, you still have to warm the battery when it's cold and cool it when it's hot. Most now, apparently, have heat pumps as a heater drains the battery too much.

Town gas was partly hydrogen. Are we supposed to believe the hydrogen molecules couldn't get past the methane molecules and escape?

I'vre read two articles now about how to save on energy costs; one from the Independent and one from the Telegraph. Neither mentioned induction hobs. I've had a ceramic pan for a few years but could never fry burgers; only boil them. Now it works fine on the induction hob. In fact, I have to turn it right down to the lowest setting of 200W as burgers need to be cooked right through without burning the outside. All the ceramic pans I've seen in the shops are induction ready. But whereas they claim they're suitable for all hob types. They're only good for induction and probably gas. Clearly, the propaganda wants you to invest in solar panels and wind turbines. You're supposed to buy an EV and heat pumps, only to then get a GINORMOUS bill for electricity. So a light bulb appears above your head and switches on and "all by yourself" you figure it would be a good Idea to get solar panels and wind turbines.

The Telegraph reports that the gas grid will have plastic pipes installed for hydrogen. The article also claims boilers will be hydrogen ready by 2026. Yaaaaay! So what was all that marlackey about banning boilers?

The Telegraph reports that the gas-grid is being replaced with plastic pipes for hydrogen transportation and boilers will have to be able to run on hydrogen by 2026!

Quotas have been imposed on fruit and veg. This looks like the scene in the movie, The Sting, where they use the "shut out". The mobster arrives too late at the betting booth to lay his bet. So the next time, he panics and places his bet without even thinking. Panic buying may mean you don't even look at the price. The quota doesn't even make sense. You can buy the limit of three, then drop your shopping in the car and go back in or go to another store to buy the same again. Panic buying of toilet paper during the Covid-19 lockdown would mean you might buy more expensive loo rolls. The lockdown now looks like a trial-run for when we "own nothing and are happy". In other words, when we no longer have cars and don't travel.

Huh? Where did I say Rough could be used "as is"? I stated it was being considered for hydrogen which is all that your own links also state. The point I was making was that natural gas is stored there without being super-cooled. I mean, do you enter a bar and five minutes later people start crashing through the windows because you've started a brawl? The Rough facility is just an undersea cavern. There is nothing they can do to change it that would make it more suitable for hydrogen. I'm not an expert but I'm guessing that at most only the faciiities used in pumping the hydrogen into Rough would have to be altered. The bottom line is that if everyone adopted battery-powered cars the grid would undergo a melt-down. Hydrogen CAN and WILL be stored and transported at a third of the cost of transporting electricity over the grid. The gas-grid can be modified to transport hydrogen, presumably in un-compressed (or not very) and un-cooled form.

I suspect owners of battery powered cars will be left high and dry.

I also read about a hydrogen filling station several years ago, in America, the price was about $5 a kg. So you could fill up a hydrogen fuel-cell car for about $20. I don't know how they stored the hydrogen but they seem to have overcome any difficulties.

That's not true. The Rough storage facility, Britain's largest doesn't store natural gas as super-cooled, LNG and was recently considered for storing hydrogen.

The cash for clunkers scheme and more recent claims that second-hand cars were getting better prices than brand-new models shows the policy. But battery powered cars are not the answer. They certainly can't make huge semi-trucks battery powered. Imagine getting stuck behind a lorry at a charging station. I once returned from a skiing trip and the coach coming down the mountain had to stop for petrol. My window was opposite the fuel pump and I watched as the petrol just kept on flowing.