Here is something to think about. All horse people (1) Love their horses and (2) equally treasure their equipment which is almost all leather. So, I decided to check out their leather care products, I'd used Mckguires and Autoglym and more recently products from Horseland. Ive found they go on better clean better appear to penetrate better and best of all cost half as much or less. At least that's the case for me here in the land of high temps and endless sunshine Australia, dynamite on leather. An article I read told of chaps who applied a good dose of conditioner and wrapped the seats in Gladrap for a week, with good results. By the way you folks with brown or black leather are in luck, they use and have brown and black raven oil on their saddles etc: which apparently stays put.