noby76

13 hours ago, rich1068 said:

Makes me miss my GS300 

And I notice that they all manage to leave without stuffing themselves into a hedge, pedestrian or kerb. Can't really be said for UK shows!

yeh i heard the roads in Japan are so good(pothole free) that they can run their VIP'd cars so low without encountering damages to the body work

On 7/31/2021 at 1:28 PM, NemesisUK said:

See here..

 

 

now that you've resurrected an old thread of mine i might consider getting them for my GS3 as i did for my old IS300 😎

I think the OP might throw up after seeing this one below

14 minutes ago, Las Palmas said:

Idiots are all over the world.

Brand new (3 days old) Nissan 300ZX needed repaint on door as somebody liked to key it as you describe it down to the bare metal.

Should that be reason for us all to be driving around in an old rusted piece of unsafe car?

yeh i know what you mean.. its just if i had a wrap like that i will be worried every where i go in case an idiot decides to "key" it.

but off topic  Nissan needs to bring back those ZX's  I've always thought they looked better than the Supra's of that time. the new Z look good as well

nice looking wrap but i will always be worried parking the car anyway now to prevent haters "Keying" it front to back.

5 hours ago, Linas.P said:

Close to the limit you mean... because once you on (or past) the limit that is when you will understeer into the ditch, that is the main difference between FWD and RWD. 

Megane RS , Civic and Integra Type R owners will be laughing at you thinking nice troll 😂  ive had fun in both layouts of cars and not biased towards either..

4 hours ago, Linas.P said:

perfect example IS250 - it is dialled in in such way that it almost feels FWD unless you really push it. 

Yes suspension on FWD car could be balanced to make car feel more neutral, I would not be surprised...  

 

 

Same way the 2.4 CL9 Accord was dialled in such a way that it almost feels RWD on the limit handling. case can now be closed 

2 hours ago, Linas.P said:

 

@noby76 you again with your old story about FWD is same as RWD. If you like FWD - good to you, everyone can have their choice, but FWD does not drive and will never drive like RWD... because it can't. There are certain advantages FWD cars have over RWD and I can't deny that, but handling isn't one - and look this isn't some sort of thing about which we can agree to disagree, it is just fact and you are the only one person in the world who disagrees with it (well probably not the only one, but hey we have people who believe that earth is flat, so it isn't really a competition).

put it this way @Linas.P i have owned 4 RWD's including a V8 4.3 so i know how both drive layouts respond on the limit and those Accords do have the tendency to oversteer and enter corners just like RWD's. its more how Honda tuned the handling rather than how the wheels are being driven duh.. 

people confuse the notion that a car being RWD automatically translates to it being "sporty" or "fun" over FWD when most forget about how the handling of a specific car has been tuned.

and no i'm not disagree i'm pointing out the fact that there ae lots of performance FWD cars which have been tuned to "mimic" the behaviour of RWD when it comes to sporty driving if you missed it clue was in the word "mimic". and two manufactures really good at doing this is Renault and Honda.

On 4/21/2021 at 12:32 PM, Robertdt said:

Damn if only I had known. I came to my Lexus from a boring old reliable Honda Accord and Honda had already jumped ship and stopped selling new ones in the UK or I would have bought another. The biggest negatives I noticed going to the IS is that its slower and more cramped inside, both of which don't matter to me. My remit was a great looking car, as reliable as a Honda, cheap to tax and fuel with plenty toys. Inside the Lexus is without doubt a nicer place to be although my generally quite basic inside and out old Honda did have full leather, fronts heated, climate control, touchscreen, nav etc, adaptive cruise control, drive by wire throttle and active engine mounts, just the basics I suppose every mid range saloon had in 2003.

 

  

I said exactly the same about my previous 2.4 Accord and got laughed at by the same person who says "they generally don't make RWD cars"..  like a RWD IS250 will hold a massive driving advantage against a 2.4 Accord in the real world. those Accords do move like RWD's and i have owned an IS300 of the same era of Accord to compare driving dynamics.. shame the last edition of Accords sold in UK did not have the 3.5 litre 300bhp engine from the Legend ..

@bpsorrel if you're not too concerned about having a "new" reg car then have you considered last edition GS450h's 

1 hour ago, S18AHD said:

Add on. Yeah, looks really nice and real carbon which is a bonus. 

I am thinking just a nice drop and get it properly detailed for summer.

i don't think you "need" a drop as it sits reasonably  low in my opinion without being OTT.. i think the ride quality will be compromised as a daily driver car. i do remember @ganzoom mentioning in a thread a while back about how his IS300h had better handling than his 335i BMW so maybe you might be changing something that's already there in terms of handling improvement mods..

love the stance.. is the carbon fiber spoiler an addon or OEM? gives it more sporty look. i think the outer looks fine the way it is so i wouldn't go overboard changing bits 🙂

On 4/7/2021 at 6:17 PM, Spacewagon52 said:

This has been a very interesting and funny thread to read. It is fascinating to read what features people like / miss / want / from their cars. The BIG worry I have when buying a car is: "Am I  going to be disappointed?"

All the research and a test drives, does not fully prepare you for actual ownership. Lexus cars are initially underwhelming on first acquaintance. The longer you own them the more you seem to appreciate the cars. Regarding equipment / accessories; I am convinced there is a big difference in owner expectation, depending on your age. Younger Lexus owners require more tech - especially when it comes to playing music and phone compatibility. For older owners (like me!) what was once very important, is now no longer a big issue. There are features on my 1998 LS 400 that I am sure I do not use - sunroof / heated seats.

My first priority, in buying a car, is reliability. An unreliable car would drive me crackers (try owning an old Ford!). Comfort and build quality would come second.

 

What features do I like?

ABS braking

Air bags

Automatic Transmission - Well I am also sold on automatics, provided they have a powerful

engine.

Air conditioning / heater – we forget that not many cars had these years ago

Reversing sensors

Radio / CD player

Power Steering

Trip computer

Electric windows

Electric door mirrors

Remote petrol cap

Folding rear seats flat

Heated rear window

**************************

What features could I live without?

I am not rubbishing these features, JUST saying I could forgo them.

Fast 0-60 times

Lane departure / Radar cruise / Pre-crash system

Self-parking gismo.

Cruise control (It would not be a hardship to be without this feature here in the UK)

Heated seats (I forget to put mine on in the winter! – Though they are lovely!)

TPMS – Tyre pressure monitor (something else to go wrong)

Air suspension

Phone connectivity (answering phones, even hands-free I think is a real distraction from driving)

Electric tailgate

Electric adjustable seats and steering

Sunroof

Headlight washers

Rear camera

Navigation system (Use Tim Tim)

Rear side blinds

Handbook – complete waste of time! Too long to read! Just post on here if you want to know anything! (*)

+1   I think some people worry about certain features of cars they might just use once or a couple of times to show off to their friends and will either never ever use again or forget the feature is actually there.  cant believe some loose sleep and make a big fuss about some laughable features but each to his own. 

I enjoy actually driving my GS so much i don't care if it does not have a cup of tea making feature or spotify connectivity within it.

all i do is upload my 6 CD changer and enjoy the drive. and when i get tired of music i can always switch to listening to the V6 roar.

7 minutes ago, royoftherovers said:

One final point Nick.......You were so professional that I hardly noticed that you were using a TELEPROMPTER !!

Keep the car.

was he? didnt even notice 😀

nice review Nick and i echo your point about just feeling the need to drive the car at every opportunity.. they're so well built, spacious and deliver when needed. and i'm the type of guy who doesn't like his car to draw too much attention but still have an element of luxury, comfort and go when needed and the GS fits this criteria perfectly.  I might consider a MK4 450h at some point as the rear boot space was improved compared to the MK3 450h and i agree the ES is a beautiful looking car but shame the 3.5 V6 was not offered for those who want that engine in the ES.

50 minutes ago, Ozzay said:

Chepaest for them is £120 for 2 litres simple drain and refill.

yeh labour and cost of oil ain't cheap.. but i'm guessing the idea is introducing brand new fresh oil which includes protective additives will in theory protect the life span of the transmission in my opinion. i'm aiming to do another in the next 15k-20k miles. 

On 3/6/2021 at 1:02 PM, Ozzay said:

Anyone ever changed transmission oil before?

Lexus dealer are charging £150. I am not sure if the car needs it at any point.

I read this on a few forums and saw on YT. Some say trans oil lasts the life of the car and others say it might be healthier for the gearbox at 100k.

I am not sure if I need it the car is mostly fine especially when warm. Just sometimes when it slow down almost to 5mph going over these horrible local bumps it shifts down to 1 and then I see a little neutral rev as I accelerate out before it selects the gear again.

Does not happen much but cars generally fine. Not a flush just a complete change. Just wondering.

give jemlexus a ring and ask for a drain and refill service for your IS250. They did my GS300 about 20k miles ago for around £140 i decided to have the brake fluid and diff fluid drain and refilled aswell for and extra charge. they're very good working on Lexus cars. http://www.jemlexus.co.uk/

Gen 3 GS300/450h will be more fuel efficient than Gen 1, more safer, more toys, and parts are fairly easy to source. Although Gen 1 is a classic GS, they'll be hard to find a well maintained good example.  Gen 3 GS300/430 has more trunk space than 450h so that's something to consider if trunk space is high on the list of requirements.

ive had my auto fluid drained and refilled in all 3 of my Lexus's including this "sealed" one in my GS300 and all were fine with no issues. ive put around 15k-20k on this one since then and shifts fine. i'm intending on doing another round after about another 15k miles. i'm more proactive not reactive. but thats me

you could slice and dice it how ever you want to but this does not dispute the fact that FWD is more forgiving in the hands of  "average" joe be it in rain, sleet or snow so a driver who's driven FWD all their life cannot transfer the same driving characteristics over to RWD..   

and one does not have to be driving RWD at similar speed of the FWD to loose the rear end in those conditions.. FWD might forgive you RWD wont.. 

trust me Linas i have seem lots of wanabe Hamilton's  (BMW) in ditches with the rear of the car taking the impact most of them just after a roundabout.. i can bet you 9 times out of 10 they had their foot down whilst in mid corner which caught them out..

19 minutes ago, Las Palmas said:

Agree with that part.

 

Please do not ridicule other members of the forum for having different meanings than you have.

 

no one is being ridiculed here Las Palmas, but we are not talking 500bhp + here where we all know require AWD or RWD to exploit that power. others are getting into intricate details about grip levels when accelerating from standstill and weight distribution which was a bit pointless considering we are not talking about a sports car here. 

others including my self tipped the OP on the dont's as a new RWD car owner..  but everyone coudl see how someone else was making it "RWD" is the best thing since sliced bread when we all know it aint.. 😆

OP has 205bhp END OF

i think we can all agree FWD car layouts tends to be "safer" for majority of car drivers when compared to RWD layout.. so all this gibberish being spat out by you know who with regards to grip level from standstill, weight distribution will be meaningless to the "average" car driver. lets be honest here. how many times do we have to accelerate very hard from standstill (0 - 60) where by grip and traction has to be called into question?

listen i keep saying this and will say it again suspension tuning technology has closed the majority (not all) of the advantages RWD layout had to about 250 -300 bhp. if in doubt i could bring you a few friends i know with FWD cars who will run circles around that RWD RC200t from standstill acceleration, rolling start acceleration and cornering.

modern performance FWD can just be as fun to drive, can grip just aswell, can corner just like most RWD and most importantly safer for the "average" Joe 

On 1/8/2021 at 9:43 PM, markeyszoo said:

My previous several cars, Nissans, Rovers, Hondas, Renault have all been FWD.

Does it affect modern cars? Any special tips or tricks for the RWD is250. 

Tips: never put your foot down when in mid corner especially in wet/icy conditions. accelerate into corner back off mid corner then accelerate after the corner..  FWD allows you to keep you foot in mid corner RWD might catch you by surprise.

suspension tuning has come a long way which has more or less evened the playing field where by putting power aside has made FWD cars like Renault Megane RS, Honda Civic Type R out handle well regarded RWD cars on both Track and street..

my 2.4 FWD Honda Accord cornered  just like the IS300 i had before it and in some on the limit conditions i actually preferred the FWD Honda where i could actually keep my foot in where as i had to back off in the I300

On 12/25/2020 at 8:18 PM, tejas121 said:

Looking at these two, both models that i'm looking at are from around the year 2000.
Always lots of kilometres on them and the prices are about the same.

Both engines are 2.0, 4 cylinder's with around 150HP, i am in Europe so no american spec models with a V6 for me sadly.

The Lexus has nicer trim for sure, but the Honda seems a lot easier to work on and diy stuff as it gets broken (i have a little bit of experience, and am quite a handyman).

What do you guys/gals think?
Is reliability an issue on these 2 models?
If it would come to fixing stuff over the years, would you rather work on the Honda or doesn't it really matter all that much on lexusownersclub

the Lexus IS200 is a 6 cylinder by the way...

if you want an Accord then i'll say go for the 2.4 190bhp version owned one and put about 50,000 miles on it and only thing i replaced was a brake switch and one wheel bearing other than that a very capable engine and handling for a FWD car.. although a 4 cylinder but moved and responds like a 2.5 V6  thats because i owned a ford Cougar V6 some years ago and can compare both.

if you want Lexus then might aswell get IS250 more refined, better mpg and performance compared to the IS200...

Supercharger.. anything else on the IS200 is a waste of time.

https://rankoneperformance.com/collections/lexus/products/lexus-is200-supercharger-kit-incl-eaton-m62-sc-unit-1?variant=7337561948221