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About ganzoom

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    Gang
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  1. ganzoom

    TESLA MODEL 3

    That is why you simply will never understand I love the EV drivetrain :).
  2. ganzoom

    TESLA MODEL 3

    You missed the EV bit didnt you :).
  3. ganzoom

    TESLA MODEL 3

    And once upon a time every one had a Nokia phone, and went to a company called Kodak for their phots to be printed :).
  4. ganzoom

    TESLA MODEL 3

    They are by not producing the '$35k' headline figure car for atleast another 12 months. The only real fundamental difference between the $35k base car and $75k performance version is an extra 15-20kWh of battery cells (which I suspect costs less than $5k to Tesla), and a modified rear motor (sub $1k cost to Tesla). The rest is essentially pure profit, but its not because every $ Tesla earn is been put straight back into the supply chain/development etc. It'll be interesting to see what happens with the balance between preorder waiting times going down as the cars get delivered versus new orders been made. The AWD version of the 3 is looking like the real sweet spot of the range, 4.5 second 0-60, 310 miles EPA range, and at £45k thats me happy, very happy. I can see the waiting list growing not going down :). But I have a feeling the 'P' version has been capped to not make the £120k P100D L Model S look bad. There is no reason why the 3, been smaller, lighter, but still with a 400volt battery pack and AWD cannot go under 2.5 seconds to 60mph.....But am sure once the modders in the US get hold of them that will change.
  5. ganzoom

    TESLA MODEL 3

    So what your saying is Lexus makes such a great product the only way they can sell the cars is with a massive discount?? Can you guess how much discount Tesla will give you on a £130k P100D L?? Tesla is shifting the Model 3 at full price faster than they can build them, which currently is just under 5000/week. Lexus sold 5000 IS for the whole of 2017 in Europe. So 1 week of Tesla production = entire sales of the IS for a whole year in a major market..... So one product has to be sold at a discount and the other has a 2 year waiting list despite costing more with no discount. I wonder which is the better product in the eye of the consumer :).
  6. ganzoom

    TESLA MODEL 3

    Can you name some??
  7. ganzoom

    TESLA MODEL 3

    Ive yet had to wait at a Supercharger. I plug the car in every night regardless of usage.
  8. ganzoom

    TESLA MODEL 3

    The a P100D S is $146k in the US, same car is £125k in the UK OTR. Similarly base Model S is $75k US, £64K here in UK. Apply same conversion factor back on a $54k Model 3 your be at around £45k UK OTR. What other EVs are coming on market with similar range or speed?? Only thing I can think of is the iPace, similar size to 3, similar speed, but £70K+ and 240 miles EPA range versus 310 miles EPA range. You can see from my car history ownership I have no brand loyalty, but I cannot think of any other EV coming any time soon in the same price/range option? Can you?? My Tesla account still says early 2019, but I expect it to be late 2019, which isn't an issue for us. The IS is fine so not in a massive rush, however it simply a matter of when the IS goes rather than if.
  9. ganzoom

    TESLA MODEL 3

    So the 'P' version is now ready to order, but actually its the AWD option that looks most tempting. Tesla unveils faster and more powerful Model 3 dual motor AWD and Performance versions $35k base $9k long range battery $5k premium upgrade $5k AWD $54k total, should translate to £45k OTR UK. 4.5 second 0-60 miles, 310 miles on EPA range. Our IS300H, same size, less tech, only RWD, significantly slower, was £41k list back in 2015....Cannot wait to order ours :).
  10. ganzoom

    TESLA MODEL 3

    Oh the guy is a tease...
  11. ganzoom

    TESLA MODEL 3

    Most exciting thing about the Royal wedding today......anyone spot the lack of tail pipes on the E-Type. Looks like even the Royal Family is more progressive than some of you guys on here :)
  12. ganzoom

    TESLA MODEL 3

    No EV will EVER do 700 miles on a charge at 70mph. Your looking at a 300kWh battery pack - This will require battery density many time higher than even the most optimistic projection. Equally 300kWh of electricity is enough energy to power your average UK house for nearly a whole MONTH!! This shows you just how much energy is stalled in fossil fuels, and how reckless wasting it we have been.
  13. ganzoom

    TESLA MODEL 3

    And how many LC500s have Lexus sold compared to a £100k+ P100D Model S/X ;). Lexus out of all the 'premium' brands is most at threat from Tesla. You just have to look at the abysmal sales performance of the IS to see that. I looked at a RX when ordering our X(even had one for 24hr test drive). Quicker, more practical, nicer to drive, despite been more expensive the X simply made the RX look ancient. We now want to fully electric, if Lexus did a full EV I would order one without hesitation, but they don't so my cash is going to another brand. Jag iPace briefly had my interest but at £76k in decent spec its Model X money for a smaller car. So the Model 3 really is the only choice on the market. Lexus could have really stood out in the premium segment by going fully electric. The sheer number of S/Xs Tesla shift despite a near 6 figure price tag and the massive waiting list for the 3 shows the demand that is there waiting to be tapped, but they have now missed the boat, and it appears still not interested in EVs :(.
  14. ganzoom

    TESLA MODEL 3

    Wind and solar is now consistently generating more electricty than nuclear, and combined more than gas. As I've already said even the very small solar PV setup on our house roof generated 3000kWh over 12 months compared to an average UK household usage of 3600kWh over a year. The next step change in power generation will be local battery storage of solar generated electricty. Am currently awaiting a Tesla powerwall battery pack to be installed, it will be interesting to see how big an effect that has on our grid electricty use.... https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/apr/24/uk-power-generation-coal-free-gas-renewables-nuclear You should also look up how much electricity is needed to refine petrol in the first place. If there was no need to refine petrol the power saved will go a long way to meeting energy use of EVs. The facts are all there in black and white, it just seems some people cannot/woudlnt try to understand them.
  15. ganzoom

    TESLA MODEL 3

    Am surpised you havent also quoted some other common BS people come out about EVs.....I'll make a list for you 1: Electricty comes from coal powerstations so EVs pollute more than combustion cars. 2:Batteries degrade after 3 years and you than have to replace them. 3:if you plug in to charge an EV your blow up the circuit board to your house. 4:We'll need 100 nuclear power stations to meet the energy demand of EVs. I don't mind people moaning about EVs for real reasons such as cost, but all of the above is pure BS which lazy people come out with based on complete misconceptions rather than fact I really cannot be bothered to debate those points but Google has all the answers. As for lack of home charging that is a real issue. However the reality is any where there is enough capacity for you to install a 3 pin socket or even run an extension from a 3 pin socket there is enough to charge an electricty to charge an EV. Back in the Victorian times a inside loo was a new thing, and more recently central heating. Changing thinking around installing EV charge points is the same thing. Around where I live I have noticed new builds are going up with EV charge points installed already! There does need to be a change in legislaions, especially in big cities around installing points. But it will come. Though overall a small market the people in Norway last months bought more EVs than conventional cars. Its clear demonstration with the right governmnt polices the move away from combustion cars will happen and quickly. Petrol cars in norway have 20% of sales and diesel 16%, I can see both dropping to single digits by the end of this calender year. https://insideevs.com/plug-in-car-sales-captured-over-55-market-share-in-norway/ However back on the topic of the Model 3.....Elon Musk is really teasing us now, looks like he is waiting till the litreal end of the week before announcing details of the performance variant of the 3.