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Been a while but some good news to report. After umpteen disc changes, s/h hub flange assemblies fitted, new hubs fitted with no joy- the judder would be back after 1000 miles. At its last MOT I put on new Michelins all round replacing the winters that were on and I had just been running on year round. I thought while I was at it I may as well put a new pair of discs on. Well over 2000 miles on from that and no judder (touch wood). Any ideas what's going on with that?

Put s/h hub flange assemblies on at the second attempt to sort this issue. Bushes are all solid, it is only under breaking at 70 mph that there is a judder.

Got passed the 1000 mile mark on new Lexus hub flanges, new Brembo discs and new bearings; all appeared to be well. At 1075 miles however, I did my first bit of high speed driving in quite a while and noticed a very slight judder at 70mph. It has since got worse but not massively. New hubs and discs would seem to rule out dirty or rusty surfaces causing the problem so I'm now really out of options. Think I'll drive these discs until they are ruined, on with a new pair and flog the bloody thing. Damned pity coz I love everything else about the car but new discs or skimming every 1000 miles isn't an option.

Finally bit the bullet and got new Lexus hub flanges (had to go for genuine Lexus parts, I could only find 2 suppliers in the UK offering alternatives, one was out of stock, the other wanted to do the deal off the ebay piste - sounded incredibly dodgy), Brembo discs and top of the line bearings(but not Lexus - too eye-wateringly expensive). Car is driving lovely now but only 500 miles in on this new set up. Fingers crossed.

Hi Chris, I'll have to ask him about the run out and get back to you, the hub flange assemblies were complete with bearings and arms. Damo, I would hang fire on putting what sounds like very expensive drilled discs on if the problem is lessening, as Gruntfuggly points out his issue has resolved itself. Did notice when my problem was at 40-30mph there was little or no juddering until there was some heat in the discs. As for me, I'm going to run with it as long as it doesn't get any worse. Who knows, maybe it will cure itself again. I'll keep you all posted.

Bought my IS200 Sportcross just over a year ago and in the very full history was a receipt for the replacement of warped discs, being the last work done on the car. After running it for about 1000 miles I noticed a judder coming up the steering wheel when braking from 40mph down to 30mph. This got steadily worse so I got the discs replaced, new pads etc. This was good for another 1000 miles but then the judder returned. My mechanic's diagnosis was warped hubs, or at a very outside bet, buckled wheels. I got him to fit s/h hub flange assemblies I sourced and new discs my mechanic managed to wangle free from his supplier. 1000 miles later we were back to square one. It was then I started reading this string, and with my mechanic suggesting the only path open to me was to fit new Lexus hubs, bearings and discs at a cost of about £800, I decided to live with it. It wasn't too severe and as time went on I felt that it was actually getting better (or perhaps I was getting inured to it). Drove it on holiday to the Outer Hebrides in May and it was fantastic. At its MOT in July all that was needed was a lower ball joint replaced. 1000 miles after that was done the judder has returned with a vengeance but oddly it is now from 70mph down to 60mph and is much more violent. I'm just wondering if this ball joint suggests anything and if it is safe, particularly with winter just round the corner.