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White one is still for sale, seems strange given the price and popularity of the white colour. Any of the current ISF hunters made enquiries?

To be fair it looks in fantastic condition and to have been recently detailed. The mods are pretty tasteful too, only the fenders I am unsure about. Price is crazy though these are not cars bought by people who dont know the market.

Love the colour, although I have never seen one in the flesh, is it a pearl? Looks a little flat.

I was torn between the asbo orange or black when buying a focus ST many moons ago. Went for black and regretted it the 3 years I owned the car. 

3 hours ago, Linas.P said:

Again I don't think running costs are the issue, but punitive insurance and road tax is. The above would really make sense in different country or maybe one day when we have "per mile" insurance and tax. Now the IS-F would cost me £2000 just parked and under cover.

My F costs me £900 a year to tax and insure based on 10k miles, it would be cheaper still if I lowered the annual mileage, although admittedly not a massive amount it is a factor. However to put this into perspective the wifes CRV costs £700 for the same. I'll pay £200 more to drive an F.

It would be great if road tax was based on usage but its based on emissions, so if you want a 5.0 V8 you have to expect to pay more. My man maths is to look at it more as only £200 more than most run of the mill performance cars, then its only £15 a month more 🙃

7 hours ago, Linas.P said:

It isn't clear that car needs tyres, brakes or service and even if it does, then I would expect to negotiate this further as default assumption is always that car does not need anything except of what is listed. Sat-Nav in Lexus mk2 is junk anyway, so nothing is lost by it being broken, as I said nowadays putting in £300 android screen would be first thing I would do.

So all in all saving £5k for (which is like 30% of cost) for few more miles would make perfect sense if I would be in the market for IS-F.

Besides car... may or may not still be on "warrantable" . Lexus is known for accepting warranty on the cars over 10 years old, as long as they are FLSH and under 140k miles. 

ISF buyers are quite rightly picky and want everything to work and the car to be in excellent condition, you are still paying a lot of money after all even for an older car. Most aftermarket solutions are a lot more than £300 and require the head unit to still be working to run of the aux.

The tyres and brakes are new on my car, I cant speak for the white one but I think that's the basis for the comparison. I don't personally think its likely you can negotiate someone down on price based on consumables on a car that's already around £2k below book, but who knows. I am surprised this car has not gone already tbh.

Personally I think the less mileage you do the more sense a car like an ISF makes, providing you still need a car why not have one you can get enjoyment from especially when the MPG is no longer a major concern.

We already have said stereotypical family SUV, its just a bit too nice and full of child paraphernalia to become the dog mover. The F is just for my (now a rarity) commute and days when I do the school runs, but is also far too nice and not particularly suited to becoming a Labrador taxi!

Now that stamp duty extension has been confirmed and since the new house has room for 6 cars on the drive, I am going to drop it £500 and keep it up for sale till the end of the month and then keep it a while longer if it doesn't sell and live that £300 fiesta dream for a while instead.

@moneypit feel free to give me a shout if you are still interested.

I started looking at cheap UK Forester XT's at £4k and now find myself reading about sti's 🙃 if I do sell the F then it might be an sti and bide my time on the weekend car, otherwise it will need to be of the shed variety since it will literally be for tip runs and taking the dog to the woods 1 mile away, really this shoudl be a £300 fiesta but I just cant buy a boring car!

I've love an S2000 but I'm 6'4 and dont even fit in 😞 

Begrudgingly my F is up for sale (see cars for sale).

Myself and the wife will be working from home for the foreseeable, so decided to move house and planning on getting a dog now we will be at home in the day. Looking to swap the car for an interesting dog mover/tip runner/winter hack (thinking forester turbo but suggestions welcome) and something for the weekends since I will have lots of space for cars (chimera, elise, cayman?).

Feeling ambivalent being honest, I love the car and have complete faith in its reliability. If it doesnt sell in a month it might just stay in the weekend car brief thanks to stamp duty being extended.

With so few for sale and no desperate need to sell, its difficult to price. Its a 59 plate but low mileage (47k) with full history. Asking for £17.5k.

I like the sound, I like the willingness to rev, I like the availability of high revs, I like the availability of torque with zero hint of turbo lag and i like to feel power build. These are the reasons I want a V8 over a modern turbo engine, yes some of them are emotive rather than just being about whats fastest, but if I didnt have that connection why not just go electric and be done with it. 1000bhp instantly availabile!!

I really have no desire for 500BHP+ or a forced induction engine. The F car experience is centered around that engine and its noise, its their USP so why get rid and join the pointless power race. Which is now at the point where 4wd is necessary only thsat makes cars heavier and worse to drive unless you are actually lapping a ciruit.

Updated styling, newer interior, better ride, known reliability, take my money!!! Only they wont as its US only apparantly 😞 

Interesting how clearly the best model of the 3 sold the least by some margin 🙃

I think it looks great and I bet that paint finish is lovely in the flesh 

I made a similar choice. I was comparing an 80k mile 10 plate with a 35k mile 59 plate. The 10 plate was more expensive and in poorer condition. Driving back to back I really couldnt tell much difference in the suspension, it was very firm in both. Not that I wouldnt do suspenion the upgrade given the chance at a good price.

I will rarely if ever track the car and I dont think my driving skill is at the level to need the LSD so I opted for the 59 plate. Similar mileage, price etc I would 100% go for the later car but just to let people know I am in no way disappointed with the earlier model.

My decision was vindicated later when a fellow member told me he wouldnt feel safe pulling out of a junction into a gap full throttle in the wet in my non LSD car 🤔

Had this on every car I've had with big wheels and low profile tyres pretty much. I think its less noticable when the tyres are brand new but becomes more noticable way before the tyres come close to needing replacing.

Non issue I would say.

Just ticked over 2.5 years in mine, still very much enjoy the car.

Might be going as part of a new house purchase plan this year, but that will be begrudgingly and part of a plan to move to a more sensible family daily and weekend car down the road. For a combo of the 2 I really rate the F.

@Womble72 assume that cost was at an indepedant not main dealer?

I bought new OEM discs and pads this year from lexus parts direct and had them fitted by a local garage I trust, and saved the best part of £400 in the process with no issues.

My favourite game!

Do you need a 5 door?

If not something like a Cayman or 370z would be my suggestion.

Assuming you do my default would have been something with the 3 litre T BMW engine in 1/2/3/4 series as its a real peach of a motor to drive and sounds fantastic for an I6.

Outside that maybe a Jag? An XE S is a lot of fun or V8 XF's are good money.

Just incase you arnt aware, a company like capital car finance will be able to offer you impressive PCP rates on surprisingly old cars if you would rather not loan the money.

High cost of parts vs low warranty cost make the warranty very appealing on these cars imho.

Of course, the likely hood of something going wrong is low. Which is why the warranty is so cheap in the first place.

Depends how risk adverse you are!

You can only take the warrantys out up to 10 years old, but can buy for as long as you are willing at that point so look for an early 12 plate or later if you want to take a warranty out.

Manifolds corroding at root and causing a tick at idle is another issue that I imagine they will all do at some point and worth a check when tyre kicking. My 59 plate 45k mile example is fine so far in that area so again not common more age and mileage related. Nothing lasts forever and aftermarket alternatives are available for that one.

Any car that was £50k+ new comes with risks of expensive parts as they age, but I think we are at the bottom of the depreciation curve now for older good quality examples. I purchased mine from lexus for the warranty, but had I purchased privately I think I would be getting about £2k less than I paid right now after 3 years ownership, which I cant complain at!

As a quick update to this, had my car serviced at Lexus last week and they reported the exhaust was blowing from one of the clamps.

They sorted it for me FOC and it has taken some drone from the sound. Maybe reduced it 10%, I would still never describe the borla as 'like stock until you give it some' but its not as bad as my intial review. I'll report back after living with it like this for a month, although I drive the car maybe twice a week currently. Also interested in how the weather affects the cold start noise. I may recieve an ASBO from my neighbours 🙂

I'd be intetested in the rear bench if its still available. My car has spent a lot of time with child seats in the back it would seem (including my own)

Good news Tom, shame an enthusiast didnt get a well loved example for a bargain.

Its difficult to compare prices when its the only private sale car. Dealers can offer PX, inspection, warranty, finance (which is useful at this price point) and there is some come back so people expect private sales to be significantly cheaper.

I personally see a private sale price as somewhere just above the PX price for a car.

I'm not bashng I like silver and think the CE suits it. To someone who is in the market for one, doesnt have a car to trade in and doesnt need finance, buying Toms looks a no brainer.

I cant see that being an issue. I asked via email to make sure I had something in writing.

I would be wary of drone doing that though, the US lot dont seem to have a problem with bleeding ear drums given the exhaust mods some do to their daily drivers.