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Going to try something a bit different as far as tracking.. range is on the climb like most are reporting. Currently at 48/44.5 (started with 40/38 on delivery in dec) now reseting history every month to allow for more realistic performance against kWh and mpg. February in screen shot, every week has seen at least a 150m+ trip (non stop) twice a week, so challenging to absolutely influence mpg over this distance on the back of EV compensating. but… tracking at 65+mpg over 1.3k with miles per kWh climbing to 2.9. Should start to see 70mpg+ return and climbing over 3m per kWh Real world though? I’m only putting in £35 of fuel each time for a 310ish mile trip. EV cost is literally at 80p over the 85miles I’m getting based on a charge both ways. I charge at home on the outbound (own cost) charge at office for the return (no cost, yes lucky I know..) I’m On an off peak tariff with British Gas and Hive at 9.5p per kWh alongside a new beta incentive to allow the charge to be longer of the full off peak window to support low grid usage.. This reduces the tariff to 5p per kWh hence £0.80p for 48miles. Incredible..!! So, at the moment it’s already running at 8.6p per Mile combined.. far cheaper than a hybrid and would absolutely wipe the floor with a similar sized diesel SUV.

Hi Ken, I’m in a F-Sport Prem Plus, previously in a Premium. Differences: Ride, lower profiles and larger rims has a marked affect on handling and urban driving. Feels very surefooted on more open roads of course.. economy is compromised though as a result of Rim/profiles. Big difference in seats too. Very firm but still comfortable. You feel very much planted.. I’m continuing to do long journeys and they’re still comfy but not to the same extent as the prem though. As you’d anticipate no discernible difference in actual performance, very similar. If anything the prem felt quicker.. but that’d be due to the slightly lower weight in the main I’m only 2months in but have already covered 2.8k. Winter too of course.. looks great though tbh… so I’ll cope with the reduced economy Pete

First month down against ownership.. and range steadily climbing, in spite of cold temps. Started with 40.8, now at 46.0 four weeks later. AC climbing slowly, real world performance more around mid 30’s. Bodes well though if I’m seeing steady increases at this time of year

Have just taken delivery of a replacement NX, previous recorded 13500miles and averaged out at 3.6m per.. and 96mpg.. that being said I took delivery in April, so perfect time to start as far as seasons and steady increasing temps. Current NX now just under 1000 Showing 2.7m per and 68mpg (couple of long trips in already) be interesting to see how it fairs up towards similar mileage/performance. I’d suggest it’ll struggle to achieve similar based upon taking delivery in Dec as its start point

Have just taken delivery of my replacement NX450h+ fSport Prem Plus Starting on 40.8/37.6 first full charge last night, entered the stats into my hive app guesstimating 2.6 m/kWh. Wasn’t far off indicating a charge of 38miles. Showed a charge capacity of 15.06kWH. That the greatest capacity I’ve seen so far, may dip off as it settles but bodes well. now back to the job of educating the traction, albeit in the winter of course.. hope to see 60+ again as with my other NX. The difference being this time I’m running on bigger rims with a lower profile.. it’ll make a difference for sure..

Tricky one here.. and up for debate.. I think that the premise of the higher figure quoted, as opposed to real world is based upon the battery showing its capacity factoring in Status/Temp/need to receive to run Systems. The real world performance, like anything is based upon the driving conditions and use of onboard systems such as all accessories, heated seats/steering wheel/climate control etc. All of this exacerbated by the road conditions and outside temperture. In any normal ICE vehicle economy falls away in winter due to all of the above, lots of idling and engine working hard to maintain all core components, all whilst keeping you warm.. which can only come from the engine essentially. Its the same in a hybrid, whilst it'll do its best to drop into EV (as part of its HEV platform) the reality is that the engine will kick in more to do all of the above, hence appearing to drop away in performance. It's no longer a case of 50% plus of journey in EV. It's therefore sensible that this should be the same in the PHEV. The variable factor is the outside temp. The range will always be an indication of its capacity, the practical performance is then based upon use and climate. Think a full tank of fuel in spring/early summer "v" winter.. you get more for your money... It's perfectly feasible that you could work towards the higher number on any other given day.. but the car essentially isn't smart enough yet to understand predictive temps and what that'll do. I now tend to enter my real world miles per kWh into the vehicle section of my Wall charging app (Hive in my case) this then tells me based upon kWh received via the charge as to the possible range. So in the summer I was running at 4.1 mile per kWH against a capacity of 14.3kWh, therefore I tended to get 58 ish (and did) now its more like 2.1-2.3 miles to kWh, so.. based upon the capacity also dropping off a little to 14.1 is now more like early 30's.. again, feels realistic.. Lexus Link+ predicts 55/48. it's a big variance but it's based upon not knowing what the temps are and additional factors. Long read... sorry... open to theories though..

Still returning decent numbers.. always above 60 with good returns around 50ish (motorways etc) but as Ken says if you don’t want to be cold.. then it’s a different story.. heat, seats and wheel means 40 at best.. so from 4.3kWh to more like 3.1kWh.. big reduction. Did see 14.2kWh charge last night though, so good capacity still.

I’m definitely on the descent albeit small incremental reductions. same for real world performance, 3.3 - 3.7 miles kWh and last 20% drops away quite quickly. However… still seeing range of 63/62 with 14.3kWh capacity, giving me a real 52ish miles or so.

I have to say I even find that the HV range is very reliable.. for example I’d set off on for the 266 round trip with 236 HV and 64 EV. charged again at destination with having 154 HV range (63 EV) by the time I was home had a HV range of 48.. so yeah.. it’s a generally a reliable figure too.. depending on how you drive of course

I’m on the descent now… (albeit from a very decent place, 64.4) most noticeable trend is the useable kWh capacity is decreasing, I’m assuming due to the need to preserve more to maintain optimum hybrid systems/state of charge etc.. I’d peaked at being able to have a usable 14.79kWh (July) to 14.31kWh (last night) With the decrease in miles to kWH too I’m seeing what looks like decent starting range to losing around 20% of that as a real world performance. (Used to lose no more than 10%) Depending on drive of course. A coldish (single figures temp) early start to London yesterday saw 3.6kWh rather than my previous 4.1-4.4kWh. Pretty much the same on return. however Car still returned over 50% of the journey in in EV (combined 136 miles of the 266) essentially only used fuel for one way (if you look at it like that) great return still..

Ken, Question… where do you get the indicated range from? Is it from your Wallbox charger App? Or something else? Pete

So we’re on the turn.. peaked at 65.2 last week but now dropping away (albeit slowly) today was 64.9/64.2 funnily enough though the AC is creeping upwards? real world mile per kWh is also dropping away, normal journey home returned 3.8 (mainly country roads and urban) rather than above the usual 4+ Have a decent round trip ahead this Friday, 270ish there and back, mainly motorway but no doubt stacked as per.. full charge outbound and return so will see how it gets on. (Ran lean on fuel this morning to say the least.. that’s the confidence I guess though that a PHEV offers)

Peaked…..? Surely?

Well the spike in temperature we’re all enjoying has delivered a new high.. 64.9/63.6. Achieved 62miles in full EV (real world) this morning before HEV kicked in, landing 133 miles later (isleworth) having achieved 107mpg with 82miles Having been in EV. It was busy.. (very) but moving .. on the way back managed 54 real world (with AC) and achieved 95mpg combined, almost exactly the same ratio of the journey in EV. hoping to crack 65 before this mini heatwave disappears..

Hi Colin, Just like you my zero EV range reads as 30% for normal HEV operation. Although I would say that I’ve noted that the traction charges up to its capacity of 14.79kWh (as highest I’ve seen from hive) based upon that and my summer 4.2 (ish) miles to kWh then that does match the predicted range of around 64. It’s the better than expected capacity that making all the difference I guess.. no software updates as yet either as it’s not been serviced either cheers, Pete