Hi Bill. I have only just fitted my ones I got from them. I think fitment may be the problem here for some people. The smaller ring has a bent plastic arm that looks like its meant to follow the contours of your reflectors but it does not. They can still be fitted and once in place its difficult to notice the plastic arm. I could have cut it off but did not want to accidentaly flex the ring and damage it. They dont come with a proper connector block for the wiring either, but the spade terminals will click into the existing connector so just be sure to make it waterproof. But overall I have been pleased with them. They certainly do look very good. The original BMW hoop lights look very dull in comparison to angel eyes. I should mention I'm not very handy with car repairs but these lights were reasonably easy to fit, just take your time and consider how things will look before sticking the lights to the reflectors.