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To update this topic, after about three year I can say the protection is still good. What is important it's how a coating is maintaned... perosanlly I wash the car by hand, with rinseless process and I use a ceramic detail quick detailer spray, made by a USA brand called DIY that is amazing. To anser to the old quetsion that I missed (sorry) the first process cost me in Italy more than 1000€ Now, if one is able to polish the car itslef, this price can be decreased dramatically, as there ar eon the market products very good to apply a ceramic coating at home without problems, but polishing the paint is mandatory.

Thanks everyone for your comments. In my actual system (at the moment) I saw the icons of the speed camera on the screen, and the advice about 800 meters early is still coming… let’s hope they does not disappear. About using Waze or other map service, unfortunately there’s some problems for my actual set up. 1. I cannot use MirrorLink as it is not supported by my iPhone 2. few months ago, I asked the official dealer if there was any possibility to update the RC300H to Apple car. They wanted to try even if Lexus EU does not allow RC series to be update (that’s crazy) and obviously the process fail. So as I don’t like to use a mobile phone as navigation system I should use the last version 2021v2 that actually is installed. Of course, the navigation system in my Lexus is not at the highnesses of any online map 😔 and it’s very frustrating.

If I'm not mistaken, since 2014, Lexus has started providing a free service which (at least in Italy) is called "Lexus Connected Services". I think I first used it on the IS250, then on two IS300H I had (the last one MY2017), and it is still working on the CT200H MY2017 It wasn't a type of advanced service as I believe is now provided on new cars, but certainly very useful: indication of petrol pumps with prices, available parking spaces in a certain area, even with the price per hour. Weather information and the photographic view of the arrival point of a route were entered in the navigation system, through "Google Street View". Very importantly, once a route was entered, if connected to the Internet, the navigation system changed the way roads and highways were displayed, adding a colored frame to the route and providing updated information via the Internet, rather than only that of the navigation system. Now, these functions are also present in my 2019 RC300H F-Sport, with some small additions, which I believe are related to the third-generation Navigation system, which has changed in the meantime (although I preferred the previous one, in terms of graphic clarity, I had on my IS300H MY2017). For example, the new functions also provide the "reporting of speed cameras on the route" just clicking on an icon (displayed at the bottom of the map) by adding them to a sort of database, so that other users could, in turn, see them on the route. As said, this feature appeared with a speed camera symbol in the lower right corner of the MMS display. From the first week of August, I began to notice that the system was struggling to connect to the server, in fact, I was getting a :500 message on the display (from what I know :500 error is related to the server) Furthermore, after these messages have occurred and the car has started to connect to the server again, the speed camera icon at the bottom right has disappeared, and a "SERVICE GONE" message appears on the display a few minutes after being switched on. I assume this is to communicate that this service has been deactivated. Has anyone else experienced the same situation? Do the "old generation" connected services still work well in your area? Or maybe Lexus is turning off the connection to "older" cars? Of course, I contacted Lexus by phone: They told me there was some problem with the new system, but they seemed to not have known that before this actual system, there were the "old" connected services, and they did not provide any info. Thanks for your attention

I have understood the topic talk about how to update the original navigation software, not Apple Car, that the dealer told me, it need be installed (only on certain models, for example in my RC300H is not possible) only via authorized service. I hope someone more expert could confirm it or not.

Hi Marcus, from what I know, the upgrade on NX is possible, but only via an authorized dealer.

Probably it's already known, but I can confirm that in Italy it is not possible to install the upgrade to Apple Car on the RC300H 2019 The Lexus dealer (not a Toyota which also make Lexus service as it is now usual in Italy, since all the historical dealer are going to be dismissed in many regions) where I make all the services on my RC300H, under some pressure I made, have tried several time, the process started but at some point it come up an error. I could just update the maps with the latest version. I't's a pity, I am still not able to appreciate the small graphics of the navigation system. Maybe one day, iOS could support mirrorlink, the only way to see Apple Maps on the screen in this moment.

If you remember, I asked for some information on nanotechnology treatment, for my RC300H. At the end of October I had the treatment done and I would like to report my personal feedback. First of all it must be said that I did not have the treatment done by a detailer, but at a body shop that was, for 20 years, first a historic Lexus dealer and then after the parent company refurbished the sales network, merging Lexus with Toyota (and in Italy this created enormous inconvenience to the "Lexus customers of the old guard") excluding those who did not adhere to "a new showroom design", they continued only as bodywork. That said, I trust them because since the first Lexus IS200 that they bought from them they have proven to be high-level professionals and knowledge for Lexus paint, in fact they have developed a nano treatment area within their facility. The product used is NASIOL ZX53, a product that according to many would be of medium/low level which however really satisfied me, in fact compared to other cars with much more "known" treatments, the yield on my car is incredible and, in my humble opinion really better. Of course the treatment was preceded by decontamination and polishing. After 6 months I can say that this treatment is essential for the protection of the car and I regret not having done it before, thinking about how many cars I have ruined by washing them in an inappropriate way and, above all, not having protected them. Not only did I find a kind of "self-cleaning" effect, the dirt doesn't even get to the surface, but the sheen and brilliance of the color is exceptional. In the evening, a classic Sonic Titanium color effect (which changes tone depending on the light), is highlighted incredibly. There is a very evident "drop" effect, when it rains: the car simply dries up while driving, the effect is truly spectacular. I made it everywhere, in every single detail of the car, except the frontal windshield: here I use just a SOFT99 cleaner that add protection. I notice that bird and insect droppings can be removed immediately only with a jet of water, avoiding that, remaining for a few hours on the surface of the bodywork, they cause damage on the transparent. As for my maintenance routine, the car has never been washed with automatic washes, I perform a pre-wash at commercial washes with only the pressure washer and a specific product from the company Labocosmetica, and then at home I proceed with a wash " rinseless ", completely by hand and then I pass a specific quick detailer to protect and enhance the "sheen". Personally, I really recommend making this investment, which in my humble opinion extends the life of the car, improve the washing process and make the car more beautiful. I add some picture shoot in my garage with artificial light, outside in the night and in the morning during a rainy day. Hope it helps and thanks for your attention.

Thank you so much everyone for the great help!

Mostly of the paintings of Lexus are known for a special “shade” like Sonic Titanium. I saw for the first time that color in Tokyo while I was there for business. Remember that in the morning the color had some shade, in the evening others, in the night totally different. At the time I had a new IS250 basic black, never take care of the paint so it was full of swirls and imperfections. So when I change the car I bought a IS300H Sonic T, again, I was little bit more careful, but did not know how to take care of the paint, but for sure the new paint was totally better tocare than the basic black, when I read the Lexus paint has some “autorepair” property I did not trust, but seeing my IS300H after 4 years of automatic wash at the petrol station, I think the paint for sure hase some properties, I had very few swirls and imperfections and the dealer that take back says “congrats for the care you had for this car”! Now that I know the “detailing world” surely my RC300H is treated aswell as I can do, I am not a professional or an enthusiast, just try to take care every 1/2 weeks by a prewash (alcaline and acid) hand wash, two bucks, decontamination, quick detailer. only with high end products, like Labocosmetica or Carpro, my favorites. Of course inside is the same. Now the car has a normal wax, that last only a month or two, too short time. I would like to bring to a detailer for a nanocoating, but my question is: ”there’s a possibility that the nanocating change the behavior of the original paint?” As Sonic T is not matt, is not gloss, and it has a proper look, this is what I am afraid: to change the beauty of this paint. Any idea from your side? Thanks

I have just try to install form the in-car app, at the moment no money request, it was just dowloaded in a couple of minutes launched and I will start to try. Maybe this is the trial mode, who know? By the way, it look nice, I found the UX is better that the Lexus MMS, graphic is crisp and legible, the design of the app is really cool, for bigger and clearly visible from any angle and light condition. It shows that to do something better, it is possible only by studying design proportions and balance between of the elements of an interface: I am pretty unsure that Lexus UX engineers that work on the MMS knows these statements. Let see how the new infotainment GEN3 will work on the scheduled NX2022 update.

It seems there's something that I don't understand well, maybe @Rabbers you could help me. When I log in into mylexus account (Italy) I can see many apps that, they stated, I have "just purchased" until 2024. As the "apps" are: weather, traffic, park, price of petrol stations, google search and all the usual connected services I had in my previous IS300H MY2017 (that's freely available as a built in function when I log-in through the car to mylexus account) I understood that after 2024 I should buy these service (the price are like 29 one year, 49 two years and so on) OK: this is almost clear for me. I don't know what is Harman Speedcam or InrixtrafficMM17 as it seems these apps are not on my multimedia system. In the list of app, I found also COYOTE and it's stated it last until march 2022 (I read: "you have already bought this app" but I suspect it was "bought" from the dealer, as this RC300H it's a demo car of 2019, that I bought last month. Said all that, when I get the access form the "in car" app, e-store, I can find the COYOTE available and I can download, but above, in the left side of the screen, I see a price 39,99€ Do you know if this makes sense? Thanks a lot.

Yes, @pobrown I really hate the new sat screen, it seems they was not happy to have so much space on 10,3” screen and fill it with a bunch of unuseful info like, just as an example, a big title “NAVIGATION” that require a black background of about 1 cm. all above that cover the map, same at the left side, adding icons that in the previous versions was easy to reach (only at need) with a click. The previous generation was primitive in functions, the new has more features, but doesn’t make sense to decrease the sizes of the font, change them from capital letters to cursive and decrease the readability, that is also dangerous, because it’s almost impossible for the driver read the informations and this could cause a lack of the attention to the road. Also it is really weird the colors of road are almost impossible to see in any condition, I spend some time playing with “luminosity and contrast” just improving little bit the daily version, but night version is almost impossible to read. Nothing to say about the general interface: other functions are interesting and work better than previous, but the nav-sat is, indeed, a big fail. Of course, Apple care is a good improvement, but the impossibility to have in all the range (even paying for, of course) is another aspect that “old guard” owners, like me could really not understand. Againt thanks for your info 🙏🏻

Thanks a lot. So I think the problem rise because I put the for files out of the folder, I thought I have read somewhere (I have to say that info on this procedure is not the same in some sites or videos online -see that the only mention on “activated code” I found only in the Tech documents, but in the Lexus site the did not mention) that they should put out of the folder. Concerning that language? They recognize the system installed? Lastly: any chanche that update could enlarge little bit the font, or almost identifying better the streets and the roads? Theres a “flat appearance” in this maps compated the previous I had on the MY2017 IS300H where letters was big and clear and theres was a high contrast form the background and the path that the car was doing. I also remember that during navigation when you connect to the online services (click on the car icon on the left of the screen just below the compass) the road became larger and of a different color, brighter, with green or yellow color to show you was connected. In this MM it seems that you are always connected but nothing show you are, the road and path are almost invisible. My fault or this is the new way they have conceived? Again, thank you in advance. 🙏🏻

@pobrown thanks for all the knowledge you share. After checking this post I have tryto know more about navigation maps updare and system update on my RC300H MY2018-20 (as reported on the owner specs certificate). As you can see it seems the system and maps aren’t the newupdates. 943, accordingly Lexus-Tech BE-00151L-TME refer to 2018v1 I was subscriber of Lexus Tech since 2017 with the previous IS300H MY2017, but never understand it really how to use the site, so again thanks for your info. I have downloaded both updates following the BE-00006L-TME bulletin (for the maps). Now three questions: 1. the language of the system is updated accordingly the language of the car settings? I need Italian language 2. From your knowledge, it is confirmed that MM17 absolutely could not be updated to Apple Car or Andoid Auto? Even via the dealer service? 3. it is correct that you need the activation code issued by the Lexus Tech site? I saw some videos “how to” from Lexus that they show that map updates is done without any “activation code”, during your update have you been asked for any “activation code” as the BE-00006L-TME bulletin show? To be honest I have another question: Following the instructions I see that it is necessarily to put the four files (nav osr system updates) in “the roots of a Fat32 USB key”. This was done, but when, following the procedures, I put the Fat32 USB key in his slot, the system does not recognize there’s any update to install. As I have a Mac, I suspect that the USB key in some way will be modified, could be possible? I confirm that from the Mac system info the key is shown as Fat32 format. If I put music in it, it is perfectly read by the MM system. Thank you in advance. Cris

Thanks a lot!