Martin J

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    Martin
  • Lexus Model
    NX300h Luxury
  • Year of Lexus
    2015
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    Yorkshire

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  1. I've come late to this thread - so late that I've missed Paul. It's worth picking up on the oft-discussed "CVT drone" and "gearbox" points though. Owners who enjoy their NXs may feel defensive about this because motoring journalists cut and paste the same criticisms of Lexus models from one review to the next. As long as people expect to hear a linear relationship between engine revs and road speed, they will never get used to a modern hybrid. Even describing the compact power-split e-CVT unit as a "gearbox" kind of misses the point, as though Lexus & Toyota selected it in preference to conventional transmission options for the hell of it. Over 14 years of hybrid ownership I've got completely used to the decoupling of engine speed from road speed, and I still think that the Lexus/Toyota hybrid system is a generation *ahead* of any pure ICE drivetrain. It's a fact than when accelerating hard the NX hybrid system is noisy. It's also a fact that most of the rest of the time - and especially in urban situations - it's much quieter. Since hard acceleration is probably less than 1% of the time spent in the car, it's a tradeoff I'm delighted to make. Others - like Paul - may differ. There's still a challenge for Lexus sales staff in articulating this for potential buyers; and a risk that Lexus might be tempted to compromise the efficiency of the hybrid architecture by trying to replicate the behavior of conventional drivetrains. Perhaps all of this will be rendered irrelevant by the arrival of Lexus EVs in a few years.
  2. I've seen a couple of references elsewhere on the forums to the WLTP fuel economy and emissions regime. But I've only just noticed the figures for the NX. Two things strike me: (i) the figures are much worse than the old NEDC figures; and (ii) the RX now performs as well as the NX, having suffered less from the transition, with, counterintuitively, a lower CO2 emissions figure (134g/km vs 135 for the NX). On (i) the NX WLTP fuel consumption range (35.7 to 37.7 mpg) is now actually worse than many owners will be achieving in mixed driving, and well below the 38 - 46 range between fills I've seen. On (ii), the data suggest that we could have had an NX450h with little if any increase in consumption and emissions, with much better performance and refinement...
  3. Good review, and as you may have seen from various threads in the NX forum, the NX is indeed improved further in terms of ride and road noise by CrossClimates. Also interesting to note how expensive the UX is relative to the NX, which offers a lot more car for not much more cash. Hope you enjoy your NX ownership.
  4. Strangely the reversing camera isn't mentioned in the brochure, but if you look on the used car section of the Lexus website there are a few SEs which clearly have one, so it must have been standard. Maybe an SE owner on here can confirm, but my impression is that relatively few SEs were sold, as the Luxury grade offered significantly more kit for not much more cash. There are a couple of threads on here about the 2017 facelift which may be worth a look. There was some minor restyling which divided opinion (I didn't like it); some changes to the climate controls, a bigger infotainment screen, and some retuning of the suspension to improve the ride. Having driven one, the suspension changes were the most significant of these, but the difference was not huge (swapping the original tyres on my car for much better Michelins had about the same effect). You may have seen that last year Lexus changed the grade system, replacing the previous S/SE/Luxury/Fsport/Premier grades with three: NX/Fsport/Takumi. Hope you end up with the NX you want - I've had mine for over 3 years and have been delighted with it.
  5. Hi Steve. I don't think the specs changed much between launch in late 2014 and the introduction of the facelift in late 2017. Mine is a mid 2015, and the pdf brochure I have is dated December 2014. Below is an excerpt from the specs pages. Btw old Lexus UK web pages are archived on the Internet Archive, but some of the interactive functionality seems to have been lost.
  6. Did a couple of thousand km in the outgoing RAV4, and while I know it shares the front part of its platform with the current NX, I was surprised how obvious the Lexus differences were. While the RAV4 was a perfectly good rental car, overall refinement was significantly worse than the NX, with a harsher ride and poor noise suppression, and I would have found it hard to live with the more utilitarian cabin. So I'd be wary about thinking a RAV4 is an NX with a big discount; with the old RAV4/NX the Lexus added value was well worth the price difference in my view. Will be interesting to see if the same added value is apparent in the gen 2 NX whenever it appears.
  7. Yes, if anything hybrids get themselves off the line faster and more reliably than torque converters or manual transmissions, with instant max electric torque (to all four wheels in the case of the NX and RX). Agree with Mike that stop/start in conventional drivetrains is an abomination, and I always disable it in rental cars.
  8. Martin J

    New review

    Well the Camry is quite a bit smaller than the ES, which I think is based on the longer-wheelbase Avalon version of the platform. Don't think Toyota GB plan to offer the Avalon here, which is a shame, as it has a more flexible interior than the ES, including fold-down rear seats...
  9. My NX is in Sonic Titanium, and so far (3.5 years) no major issues with paint chipping. I did have the Supagard paint treatment, which may have helped.
  10. Martin J

    New review

    Thought this was a pretty good review, for those of us for whom controllable oversteer on the limit isn't the most important criterion. Unfortunately, I'd failed up until now to take on board the fact that the ES doesn't have folding rear seats, which seems a strange omission. It seems Lexus have introduced additional bracing behind the rear seats to improve rigidity over the Avalon (which I think does have split-folding seats). While the quest for refinement and body stiffness is laudable, the lack of loading flexibility is a significant downside, and I'm surprised that additional reinforcement could not have been introduced to the body in this area without eliminating through-loading. I rejected the GS for this reason in 2014 and bought the just-launched NX instead, so a bit disappointed that the ES now looks less attractive as a replacement when the time comes.
  11. This is interesting, and I'd love to know how and why Lexus UK decide to limit the trim combinations of their cars for the UK market. To me, one of the key bits of added value in a premium car is the ability to choose a personal trim preference, not least as we spend more time looking at the cabin of our cars than the outside. When the NX was first launched, other markets had a wider range of trim colours and finishes: in particular, when you ordered cream/ivory seats, the lower part of the dash and the upper part of the door trim was also cream, whereas the UK cars were still black. I know volumes in the UK are lower than for some other markets, but I'm not sure why this should mean a more limited choice of finishes for custom orders from the factory. A related complaint is that UK brochures do a woeful job of depicting interior trim and colour options, but haven't seen the ES one yet.
  12. Aesthetic judgments are always subjective of course. But I have to disagree with this. Given that mid-size SUVs are generally similar in overall shape and mass, I think Nobuyuki Tomatsu did an outstanding job with the design of the NX. It's much edgier than the obvious competitors, and at the same time better resolved. The surfacing responds to lighting very strongly. In fact I think the biggest challenge for Lexus will be to replace it with something equally distinctive and interesting. Design work on the next NX - which will presumably share the new RAV4/ES TNGA platform - is probably almost signed off. Manufacturers have a tendency to tone down (some might say dumb down) radical designs in second iterations, so let's keep our fingers crossed that this fate doesn't await the next NX.
  13. I think the NX is pretty quiet for a large-ish SUV. In particular there is very little drivetrain noise unless you accelerate really hard, and it's whisper-quiet around town. Occasionally I find wind noise noticeable at high speed, but that's a reflection of the quietness of the rest of the car. Tyres are a factor - as soon as my original Bridgestone front tyres were worn I switched to Michelins all round (CrossClimates) and they've reduced road noise still further. In its road test of the original 2014 NX, Autocar found that the cabin was as quiet at 70mph as a diesel Jaguar F-Pace at 30mph, so objectively it's a quiet car. In all other respects, I think the NX is outstanding, and its combination of sharp looks, reliability and low emissions is hard to beat.
  14. Congrats on your purchase. It looks great outside! Had a quick look at your car when I was in the dealership a couple of weeks ago - the ES looks terrific in the metal. Will be really interested to hear how you get on with it over the next few months; and in particular how it compares with the NX, as I'm considering an ES when the time comes to change. Have enjoyed the NX's high driving position, however, so some mixed feelings about moving back to a saloon.
  15. These comments are spot on. I was unfortunate enough to be "given" a DSG-equipped Skoda Octavia by a rental company on holiday recently. It was diabolical, to the extent that I found myself wishing I'd rented a cheaper manual car. It was particularly horrible at low speeds in town. And yet the motoring press rarely have anything but praise for them. The Toyota/Lexus hybrid system is vastly superior in real-world driving, in my view.