Sagitar

whistles

shabby

Anthony

elbow

Not too bad with us, but a black outlook.

myalgia

Ducking

Onager

physician

Erewhon

duck's

alabandite

Sagitar...The original question didn't concern the MM pack as the car being considered is an SE WITH MM. The question referred to opinion on whether the additional features of the SE-L were worth the money..... Apologies - I didn't read the whole thread - and I am very old you know . . . . .

pumpkin

excellent

I bought the MM version and I thought the price was high, but I don't regret buying it. If however the various components of the pack had been available separately I would not have chosen to have all of them. Whether you consider the pack worth while is such a personal matter, that I don't see how I can advise you. It is not difficult to compare the "with" and "without" specs and it's then up to you to decide on the value to you. The things that I value (or not as the case may be) are. The rear view camera and sensors are a boon (I'm old and need every assistance I can get . . . . :P ) The hands-free Blue-tooth telephone system - it works better than any other that I have ever used. The DVD player (and its sound quality) - I often have to hang about waiting for someone else and it provides great entertainment if you are stuck in the car. I have Phantom of the Opera loaded at present. The sound system is excellent, but I like to listen to Radio 4 when I drive and a system of this quality is probably OTT for my needs. The DVD based GPS I have very mixed feelings about. The convenience of a built in system is great, but the system itself does not compare well with after-market systems that I have used. It is better on motorways than on minor roads - motorway information is very good, but some of its route choices on minor roads are just plain perverse and inevitably, its road information is always out-of-date to some extent. It does not have a full post code input system - you have to add the final details of house number etc and plenty of the places that I go to do not have those kind of details in their address. Try looking for a farm on an un-named and un-numbered country lane. It will not take a speed camera data-base file. It will not memorise and retain a planned route. I really do wish that Lexus would use a hard drive/memory-card based system that would allow regular updating by download and data-base file inputs. I have got so fed-up of it for rural routes that I have bought a TomTom that I use when I have to find a remote country site or plan a complex multi-stop route. I knew all of this before I bought the Lexus, having checked carefully and if it had been possible to buy the parts of the MM package separately, I would not have taken the GPS.

A happy Spring equinox. I am an athiest and the sun is shining here - does that tell you something? . . . . . . :P

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Better go very quietly then . . . . . :shutit:

gonfalon

commutative

form

ball

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That's a bit of a leap of logic. All I was suggesting was that spending a £1000 on a mod that will not make any significant performance difference to most of us may not therefore be sensible for most of us. But hey it's a free country and as long as you understand why you are really doing it, perfectly appropriate to spend your money on something that makes you feel good. I was on Guernsey last year. We go there regularly and will be there again in June. There is an overall speed limit of 35 m.p.h. and there are lots of very narrow roads. The longest coast to coast distance on the island is about six miles. You cannot help but notice the large number of vehicles parked in St Peter Port, close to the various offshore banks and fitting nicely into the sort of list that you have given us. What aspect of driving experience do you think would be the motivation for their purchase?