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Thanks for the link Mikeyv. I can only assume the cheif of design at Allard Cars was blind, there can be no other explanation how so many ugly cars came from just one manufactuer. Mike.

A bloke at tech in the late sixties had a big soft top Allard complete with dicky seat, they were banger money back then, and not that rare a sight on the roads. There was a thread on pistonheads about the Lexus abomination back in 2007, there's a pic of a different car about 13 posts in. http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=478251 This looks like the car the lad at tech had, it looked slightly better with the hood down, but not a lot!

If you put Allard into Google image there are plenty on there with a face only a mother could love. One or two are OK but the large majority are pants. Mike

Oh wow - if this is the finished product than Allard is utter crap. Nothing on that front end fits properly. YUCK indeed. I wonder what it goes for though.....

interesting addition to description on ebay for anyone interested. Please be sure this is not an Allard car, it's registered as a Lexus LS400 and simply has had an Allard conversion applied to the bodywork and some interior alterations.

K817EUV is now for sale on eBay, apparently now owned by Allard Motorsport. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Allard-Lexus-LS400-Prototype-restored-by-Allard-Motor-Sport-/201233400178

What five would you pick from following countries...? Here's mine, sadly only a HUGE lottery win would bag some of Them! Britain Allard j2 50s Bentley continental lightweight Original range rover Bristol 501 J Jaguar xk150 coupe France 2cv ripple bonnet van Delahaye by figoni et falashi Citroen sm Bugatti type 57 Atlantic Ds decapotable by chapron Italy Alfa disco volante Maserati bora Pagani zonda f roadster Maserati 5000gt Lancia aurelia b20gt Germany Bmw 507 Mercedes 540k coupe Porsche 356 Original Mercedes 300 gull wing Bmw z8 Japan Honda nsx type r Nissan deltawing racer...for the road! Toyota gt2000 Lexus lfa Subaru svx twin turbo America Auburn boat tail speedster Duesenberg walker coupe from 30s Mercer raceabout/speedster Tucker V16 Cadillac from 30s And wee cheat... Rest of world Tatra t87 Pegaso supercar from 50s Spain Volvo pv544 Saab 92 Tatra 603 Obviously all these are changeable at any time but are my favourites for now...

It is basically as far as I can tell and have found out from Lloyd Allard son of Alan Allard (retired) who was the director of the company that designed it. That there was 3 built, one unfortunately was written off in an accident. Here is as much of the story of it I can find online http://www.mulsannes...rdj2xstory.html It is a Lexus 400LS. As the V5 document states. I got the car from my father in law who I believe purchased it from the designer. It has done 132000 miles

I like the colour of this - never heard of the Allard association with Lexus before. Has it done many miles? Can you give us a brief on the spec: engine size/type etc. Literally one in a million.

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