MacRS200

You could drive up there collect it and make a mini weekend break of it, nice part of the world :D Or if you want to do the Flying Lexus bash at Selby it's not that far to divert to there.

Dolomite (Its an age thing)

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Good man Neil :) Yeh was hoping to use the same bulbs. Will Maplin sell the relay? ← Ok bloody Oven packed up tonight so only just manged to get it fixed SPCO = Single Pole Change Over relay, its got 3 contacts called Normally Open (N/O), Normally Closed (N/C) and Common (Com). The Normally bit means what the state is with no power on the realy coil, N/C is connected to the Com, N/O is not, power on the coil the reverse N/C is not connected and N/O is :D So if you wire the power from the brake switch to the Com and the feed to the bulbs to the N/C the lights will work as brake lights. Take the switched live for the fogs to one side of the relay coil and connect (Delete "another wire") (Insert " a diode") from the same terminal to the N/C terminal. Connect the other side of the coil to a good ground, when you switch on the fogs the N/C contact will open breaking the circuit for the brake lights at the same time as feeding power to the bulbs and you got fogs on all the time :D Maplins will do the relay, quote them "RS part no 351-639". Wired as above the coil will only draw 40mA so should not overload the fuse, the contacts are rated at 16A so that will give a max of 96 watts per bulb for brake lights, should be plenty. You will also need a relay base to plug the relay into, quote them "RS part no 400-9130", this gives you the screw terminals to connect to. It also lets you change the relay easily if it packs up. Total cost from RS £ 4.95+VAT, Maplins should be about the same or a bit less :D With a bit of sticky velcro you should be able to find a place to hide it in the boot lid. Sorry I didn't get time to do a diagram, if the above is not clear let me know and I will "nick" a bit of work time tomorrow to draw it up.

Don't know myself but know a man who does. If no one comes back I will ask him, he's an Architect and doing some plans for me at the moment for an extra bedroom on first floor.

Oh right thanks Neil its easy then :duh: not! Sounds like a job for my local auto electrition. Unless you can post some very easy to follow instructions. Billsy ← Sorry it is pretty easy. One quick question are you using the same bulbs for fog and brake Will knock up a quick wiring diagram for you and post later tonight with more detail on the mumbo jumbo :D

Paint

That sounds dodgy :duh:

Hook

Who

Thanks Fluff but I want to keep them as brake lights when the fogs are switched off so I probably need a relay or something right? Thanks for the search Shahz but I can only see posts on the fog light to brake light mod and I want to do the opposite but keep the 5 brake lights when the fogs are off Am I making sense guys? I really don't want to nail a fog light to the bumper so please help Cheers ← If you wire the brake lights + volts through the N/C contact of a SPCO relay and feed the coil off the fog switch it will open the brake light circuit if the fogs are on :D

Magic

Me too then, try a meter and just measure it :D

Should have more that 2 bands on it :duh:

Ripoff

Welcome to the club, enjoy the chat and your new motor

Agree with both, mine just "pops" open.

Putting at risk being accused of stating the bleedin obvious we need to set a standard base before measurements are made. Something along the lines of: Nothing in boot but spare wheel (no golf clubs etc) 1/2 tank of fuel approx (1/2 a tank of fuel = 30Kg or more than bag of cement) Car on level ground (front to back and side to side) Measure both sides and take a mean of the two measurements, front and rear, and post that. Bit late I know but just spotted this thread and it will be very interesting to get some figures to compare.

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Can you make mine long and directional :P

220 I like round numbers!

Pain

Head

Sounds about right Mr Morse. My PI's are -35mm and gap is about 10mm from tyre to top of wheel arch. Will measure when I get home and let you know if majorly different.