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What inconvenience? We have a very economical IS300H, but our EVs have been simply the better cars to use for family duties. You would have to pay me to swap our EV for a combustion car, and even then I wouldn't do it unless forced.

Someone here mentioned they loved V6/V8s.....my last V6 NA car (Nissan 350Z did about 15mpg in town). If petrol prices hit £2/l, that would translate to a fuel cost of £6 per 10 miles in fuel 😲. Where as my current 6 seater, sub 5 second to 60 second EV is costing me 7p per mile in fuel with with increase in electricity costs factored it.

That's like asking me what was wrong with my old Nokia phone right after watching Steve Jobs reveal the iPhone :). Life is for living and embracing change.

I love long road trips. The last proper long road trip we did was a 3000 mile trip to the Swiss alps. We had planned a trip to Norway for 2020 in our Tesla, but we all know what happend next. But fingers crossed we'll be able to do the Norway trip this year :).

Neither, I love our Tesla because it's CAR I have ever owned regardless of powertrain. My last combustion was a N54 335i that I had spent a fair amount of money on to get it to around 400whp, Qauife LSD, and Bilsten suspension. I was on the verge of buying a M5 or XJR supersport. It was actually the 'EV' mode of our IS300H that got me interested in EVs. I took a test drive in a Leaf and the BMW was sold by the end of the week. For me EVs aren't the future they are here and now. The only thing stopping us trading in the IS300H for another EV is £££££. The IS does barely 3000 miles a year, and with a massive house renovation project coming up swapping it for a new EV doesn't work for us. An EV has been our main family car since 2015, we've done 75k miles in EVs now. There is zero chance of us getting another combustion car.

You might have missed the main point of any business......to make money!!! Last time I checked a high profit margin was seen as a good thing for a company to achieve?

I suppose is all relative. I don't consider my self an early adopter, but I've had an EV since 2015, so this is my 7th year owning an EV. The real 'early adopters' are those who bought a Leaf/Tesla back in 2011......For me buying a brand new combustion car is utter madness.

Thats funny because we are planning this trip in the summer in our 5 year old (which according to you and other on here should have a dead battery by now;). We could take our Lexus, but the EV is simply the better car. Last summer went to the Highlands and Dartmoor both during school holidays, pre-pandemic we went to France in our EV. I've been lucky enough to own and drive some amazing combustion cars, but these days I have no time for them. EVs work and work well already, so unless you love love living in the past am not sure why anyone would choose a combustion car over an EV?

For anyone interested in FACTs on EV battery degradation.https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/t024bMoRiDPIDialGnuKPsg/htmlview?pru=AAABf3dn3To*xrKp1aysXOkqevDy3XJupw#gid=0

You don't need fancy hardware to track battery degredation. The cars do it themselves. There is degredation but not the 25%+ been claimed on here. The proof is ofcourse in usage, am about to take our 5 year old on a 3000 miles+ Road trip from Leicester to Norway.......Surely that would be impossible if EV batteries failed after just 3 years??? And no I haven't already had an EV traction battery replaced.

Can you answer my question? You claim after 3 years EV batteries are useless yet there are thousands of 3 year old EVs for sale with batteries that a fine.....So whats your explanation? Everyone is lying about EVs?

So again explain to me why 5 year old EVs hold their value so well if you claim after 3 years batteries are useless?

There is BS and there is just out right lies...... If EV batteries really die after just 3 years can you explain why used EVs hold their value better than any combustion car. A used 2017 Model X from Tesla will cost you £65k right now, we paid £71k in 2016. So if EVs batteries are useless after 3 years surely used values should reflect that?? On the other hand used hydrogen fuel cells cars can be had for a fraction of their new price. Maybe you have it all right and everyone else is wrong, or maybe you are the one who is wrong?? What you do recon, you are the sole genius on the planet 🙂

Can you explain why our nearly 5 year old EV with 50k miles on the clock is only showing 5% battery degredation?

At 7 years old our IS300H is by far the most reliable car we have owned, more reliable than Nissan/Honda etc of the past. The IS is reliable I've now moved to only servicing it every 2 years in the hope that something will break so I can have an excuse to replace it. But alas no such luck, flew through the MOT with no issue, even the front brakes pads are still only 50% worn from new, on original 12V battery too. £10 VED, 40mpg+, £250/insurance, for reliable, cheap motoring it doesn't really get much better.

Ours was fitted and supplied via a company called CarbonLegacy. There was loads of paperwork involved, including a decent wait for Tesla to just deliver the hardware. Had to get DNO sign off, and because our solar PV setup is under the FIT scheme there was paperwork with that too. But well worthwhile doing.

As ever with Tesla no one knows any timings :). The PWs are great bits of kit though, I rate the engineering in the PW MORE than our car. The PW is literally on and doing something- charging or recharging 24/7. In 2 years I've only ever had to 'reset' it once, and that wasn't really necessary. It just works and works well. The Tesla eco system though is a slippery slope, you cannot really have a PW and not a car as well. Everytime you open the App your be reminded on what you are missing out on for the car side of things, like deforsting the car and seeing how much energy it takes to melt some minor ice - yes nearly 10KW!!!, hence why I want another PW :). ]

The PW is very expensive and prices have been going UP recently not down. However if you own a Tesla car already its a no brainer as the software integration is absolutely seemless. There is no faffing with APIs, or having to setup your own web portals/databases it all just works. Am seriously considering adding another PW to the house and more solar. But we have a big structural build project coming up for which the budget currently is going the wrong way :(. But essentially any battery + solar PV setup really opens up options for changing your grid energy consumption.

We've had a PW installed for over 2 years now, its paired up to a 4KW solar PV setup (50% slit SW/SE facing roof). The PW hardware is pretty slick, it sits in out kitchen pantry and has been maintenance free since installation, the warranty is 10 years I believe. The PW software is run from the Tesla app, if you have a car it will let you control charging of the car based on off peak/peak rates. Looking at the App data, in the last 2 years its discharged 6MW, we have used solar PV to charge it 44% of the time, the rest of the time I charge the PW using cheap off peak electricity. It essentially means even during winter we don't use much peak rate electricity. In the summer months there are days/weeks when we use hardly any grid electricity even with charging the EV. Overall the PW has been a very impressive bit of kit, the software integration is second to none interms of user interface and ease of data access. There are cheaper battery storage solutions around though if you don't care own a Tesla car/care about software integration. As far as am concerned solar PV + battery should become the standard normal for all houses, much like a flushing toilet and running water. The biggest barrier at present remains cost - like so many other things in life.

Insurance just isn't my thing, don't get why people buy it and never will. I guess we all have very different ideas about risk. 20 years ago I literally owned nothing, now we have more than enough to be comfortable. Insurance products isn't whats helped me improve my quality of life so far, so why would I start buying them now?

Actually we have house insurance because the mortgage company demands it, the only other insurance product we pay for it car insurance, again mandatory. I've seen how life can change in literally a second, money means little in the grand context of things, so paying for insurance is just a concept I just don't understand.

I recently looked at these warranties, however a service+MOT from our local Lexus dealer is well north of £300, the local garage down the road does it for £200. Given how unlikely these cars are to go wrong, I still see little reason to use a Lexus main dealer for servicing. 7 years and still waiting for the first 'fault' to develop, it may not be an exciting car to drive, but the reliability is amazing :).

This appears to be the only 'common' fault on these cars. The amp has probably gone, there are third party repair options. https://www.cartronics.co.uk/lexus-mark-levinson-amp-repairs

We secured an extra £200k of borrowing for under 1.5% fixed for 7 years to fund an extension to the house. Am now looking to see if we can borrow even more. The maths makes it a no brainer to release equity on property if you can use the money on something else. With inflation projected to hit 7%, a substantial of mortgage debt will essentially be eroded away with zero action. I've never liked debt, but the current financial situation is bizarre. Been able to lock in borrowing rates at sub 1.5% whilst inflation is heading close to double figures is as close to 'free money' as it gets. It cannot last forever though, so if you can don't look a gift horse in the mouth!!