Dylanlewis2000

What I meant was it would be better to have the sample size next to the figures. If the sample was made from BMW i8 was based on 100 cars, yet the Hyundai was based on 1000 cars, it would indicate a more reliable sample size. Having more cars out there, you would assume more faults as there's more of them to go wrong.

Sorry to resurrect an old thread. I took a 2018 Lux RX out on a test drive today. Everything was good, however there as a very light shudder when taking off. Once we were on the move, everything was silky smooth. We also took an NX out and it didn't have the same issue. Just wondering if this was the same issue as the one described above.

Is there a limit to what the RX450h can reverse up? Will it just display a warning or refuse to move?

The problem with these type of surveys is that they don’t take into account how many of each type of car is sold. I can’t imagine there’s too many i8s out there.

Plus I think I’m right in saying this.... they play a little animation when turned off.

Yep, as F.A stated, they wanted to keep something a little sporty instead of the IS300h, however it didn't sell in great volumes. I read somewhere that Lexus have always been a bit wary about having turbos to provide extra performance with their cars, opting for larger displacement over a smaller engined turbo. The 200t did have a good 0-60 time of around 7 seconds. In this country we usually favour MPG over everything else, hence the 300h's success in comparison. However, of late, this has received the chop as they seem to be shifting more NX and RX's.

From Cardiff to Swansea I can usually get 48mpg. A few times I have an indicated 50mpg+. I know the trip computer is usually optimistic, but even if its out by a few MPG, that's still good going.

Reading and following this thread with interest. Is it the case that because the CT and the Prius are somewhat related, they use the same kind of engine setup they are targeted equally. What's the difference with the 4th Gen RX and what about the NX? Are these also targeted?

The 250 was pulled very quickly as they didn't sell many in comparison to the 300h. Sad really as its an excellent engine. I have a 62 plate (older body) and it gets great economy on a run.

I'm noticing a lack in the number of premier face lift models out there at the moment. In Wales, the only dealership (Motorline Cardiff) is set to reopen on the 12th. Hopefully there'll be a few more models on the market soon.

I've been looking at the price difference between the pre and post face lift. I can't help but think the one i've linked to above is a little rich.

Whilst hunting for a new (second hand) NX I came across this: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202103290733737?model=NX 300H&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly New&onesearchad=Used&postcode=sa48lp&advertising-location=at_cars&radius=200&sort=relevance&aggregatedTrim=Premier&make=LEXUS&price-to=30000&year-from=2018&include-delivery-option=on&page=1 It appears to be an 18 plate, on the pre face lift platform. From what I can gather there was a cross-over on the 67 plates, but this is the only 18 plate I have seen. Was it the dealership (at the time) had old unregistered stock?

Just wait for the 'SUV' tax in a few years time 😉

How does that effect your MPG?

I know what you mean. With my IS250 I have managed to achieve 55mpg (trip computer indicated) with a trip back from Cardiff to Swansea ~50 miles. Additionally, we visited West Wales on the weekend travelling around 150 miles round trip. The trip indicator was showing 41mpg. I know the trip indicator is a little enthusiastic but I have been delighted with the performance and economy of my 2.5V6. My daily journey to work is roughly 6 miles through 30-20mph zones with the indicator showing between 27-31MPG. Economy isn't everything, but it's something you notice day to day when running the car.

That's good to hear! I suppose it must be down to the NX's electric motors providing torque on demand. Can you imagine if they fitted a more powerful motor and some li-po batteries! In the words of Jeremy Clarkson 'PPPOOOOWWWWWEEERRRRRRRR'

What does it do around town? I've heard that the RX is better on the motorway due to its 3.5v6. Not sure if it's better around town though. I'm looking at options at the moment so interested in what you have to say about the NX around town. My daily commute is 6 miles through 20/30MPH zones.

When recently enquiring about an NX I was told that this would not be don’t as part of a service, rather a chargeable £80 extra. I understand dealers are in the business to make money, but it’s a software update, although one would argue the technician has to give up an hour of his time to update. On the flip side, Lexus should look at OTA updates.

Thank you for your comments so far. I have been tracking a few cars over the last two or so weeks, and they seem to be moving quite quickly. Hopefully when the dealerships reopen properly more stock will appear which will allow me to compare models. Either that or to try something new. In the back of my mind is the 2030 deadline the government has placed on ICE cars; it could cause car values to tank!

That's something that i'm also unclear about. Its one of those things that it could be something big to break for not very little benefit. If it was something that transforms the ride and handling of the car then its something to really think about, however, it seems that it's not.

A lot of that sounds like sales patter. I suppose the only way to know is to take both out for a drive... when showrooms return to some sort of normality.

Thank you for your comments. This is interesting to note. It sounds like the F-sport with premier pack could be a good compromise between that and full Premier. What does AVS actually do? I recall reading about the old air suspension in the previous generation RX and it was great when the cars were, new but a pain in the bum when they were a few years old and going wrong.

Hi all, I'm looking at changing my beloved IS250. I do love the car, however I fancy a change to something a little newer. I have had a few NXs over the years as courtesy cars when my IS has been in for services. Prior to this I was looking at the GS, however, servicing and warranty seems a little higher; plus as my wife has pointed out on many occasions, my daily commute is through many 20mph and 30mph zones with lots of speed humps 😞. I do like the elevated seating position of the NX too, having had saloons for the last 16 years it's time for a change. I do love to have a few gadgets on the car, therefore I have been looking at the Premier models from 2017 (67 plate) and above to get the newer style front end and interior, however I do have a few questions about this. Kit that I want on the car: Mark Levinson sound system - I love listening to music, and being a little deaf I really want a good sound system. My IS has the 12 speaker Pioneer system which is very good. Larger new nav screen - This is a nice thing to have, and it seems they have sorted the 'peeling' issues from the screen, plus this might mean the car can have Apple car play installed. Heated steering wheel - Nice to have and I suffer from Reynaud's, this might help me out in the winter Heated seats - I think every NX has heated seats now, so it's not going to be an issue. Takumi vs Premier My budget doesn't stretch as far as the Takumi spec, however I have seen one car in Takumi spec which is within my budget. Is there much difference between the Premier and Takumi? Cream Leather I love the thought of cream leather. How easy is it to keep clean? My black leather in the IS looks great. I do clean the car on a regular basis and moisturise the leather whenever possible, however I have been in many show rooms and seen some brand new gorgeous cream leather seats covered in blue 'jean' scuffs. I wear jeans often therefore I don't want to ruin the leather. Premier vs F-sport I've seen a number of F-Sport cars which are slightly cheaper than the Premier spec however, they have the 'Premier pack' added, what's missing between the F-sport with Premier pack and a Premier model? From what I've seen they both have Mark Levinson and a heated steering wheel, however I can't see HUD and rear heated seats. Rear heated seats isn't a dealbreaker as is just the two of us at the moment. I was told by my Lexus dealer that the F-sport is a much firmer suspension setup and some people complain it's a little too hard. Old NX vs New NX I read somewhere (I can't remember where) that on the newer generation NX they changed the engine mapping slightly so that the CVT doesn't sound as winey when you put your foot flat to the floor? - How true is this? Are there any other notable changes? Weak points / common faults? As mentioned my IS has been excellent. Are there any weak points on the NX? Essential servicing not an option on the NX? - Why? On many of Lexus' models they have cheaper essential servicing, this doesn't seem to appear on the Lexus website even though the oldest NX is going to be 7 years old. Does anyone have any ideas why? Servicing aside, with the Hybrid battery i'd probably get the servicing done in Lexus. Its a bit of a trek, but it keeps the battery warranted. I have also looked at the RX, however, these are again above my price bracket for the facelift (2016+) with the added cost of servicing and maintenance which near equal the GS, I have kind of written it off, unless someone can tell me otherwise? I have looked into servicing costs and maintenance costs e.g. tyres and these seem on par with my IS.

My Lexus IS250 was in for a service this weekend therefore it was a perfect opportunity to try out the UX. As my IS has just passed the 9 year service I'm looking at options and thinking about changing the car. The IS has been amazing, brilliant in fact. Comfortable, not bad on fuel and dependable. The UX feels a little bigger than the CT and feels a bit more planted on the road. This loan was an F Sport which came with a few little extras which made it a bit more pleasant to drive. The size of the car is great with a nice foot print and more than enough room in the front, however, rear room is a bit more restricted. I would say that there was less room in the back than in my IS. The boot is another matter. As with all Hybrids the boot space is a reduced due to battery storage. There's a raised floor which will make sliding things in and out of really easy, as well as a small compartment under the floor for a bit more storage. The luggage cover was not in the car however, with it, I think the boot would look a little smaller. The boot seems a lot deeper than the CT, and big enough for most needs / requirements. The seats do fold down too, although not flat, it does allow you to add to your cargo space should you need it. The main instrument cluster is clear and easy to use. If you have driven any other hybrid Lexus in the last few years you'll notice a lot of similarity between gauges and read-outs. I found the 'floating' / moving gauge cluster a nice touch, although I do worry about the longevity of things like this, similar to the virtual cockpit found in VWs. It is great when new, but what will they be like in 10/ 15/ 20 years time. The layout of the UX is similar to that of the ES with similar knobs and switch gear all felt nice to use with a tactile feel One thing I noticed about the UX was how hard the driver's seat was. Admittedly, the car only had 2000 miles which means it might need to be 'worn in'; my wife had no such complaints about the passenger side. By contrast my IS's seat is lovely. As this is the F sport there's a nice F Sport emblem embossed into the headrest of the seat as well as the little f sport logos on the steering wheel and on the wings of the car. The interior is a very pleasant place to be, with one thing to note, it's dark with the black leather and black interior trim. It wasn't something I noticed straight away, however when I jumped into my IS with black leather and grey interior it's a bit brighter. It's not necessarily bad, its just something to think about. The back seats are comfortable, and there's two USB sockets in the back for charging. As previously mentioned, rear leg space feels less than my IS, however I was able to sit in the back with my seat position in its normal mode (i'm 5,11 for reference). In terms of driving, it was very good. The large monitor on the dash would show the battery usage if set to show 'information' which always entertains us. I did notice that the battery didn't seem to charge up as much as it does on the NX. Usually with the NX, it would regularly charge the battery to 7/8 bars and then run down, this seemed to hover between 3 and 5 the whole time. It didn't make much of a difference to my driving style. I will say that I do prefer the larger screen on these newer models. Economy was good. Coming off the motorway from Cardiff to Swansea, the trip computer was indicating around 50MPG. I can usually get this very close to 50 with my IS (yes it is a 2.5v6 petrol) on the same run. Where this little UX was impressive was pottering around from local village to village. The trip computer was indicating around 45 to the gallon after a reset. This is better than my IS which usually sits at around 27 - 30 depending on how cold it is outside, as you would expect. Driving around it did have a bit more kick if pressed, you can feel the electric motor push you if you needed a sudden surge of power to overtake or leave a junction quickly. As I'm looking to move on from my IS the wife has been asking... are we going to get one? I'm honestly a bit torn. The drive train is good and feels generally responsive, however I might need a bit more space in the next few years. 4 services works out to be around £35 cheaper than an NX with the warranty coming in at £495 for 2 years vs the NX at £795, again not much in it. I think it will come down to space. If you need a larger boot, and more rear space, then the NX would be the way to go. If you like the elevated driving position, then again an NX might be the better option, however if you are looking for something which is smaller, a bit more efficient, and overall a bit cheaper to run, then the UX could be an option.

Hello. I have had both a few NX on loan when my IS has been in for services, and currently I have a UX F sport loaner. I love the size of the NX, and the equipment list on the Premier model is extensive. I have been fortunate enough to have two premier models and two luxury specs. The biggest thing I have noticed between the UX and the NX is the size inside. The boot is notably smaller, and rear space is probably on par with my IS. Every time I jump from my IS to an NX I really miss the IS' seats. I'm not sure what it is, but something just sticks in my back; I think it's something to do with the stitching. I am finding the same with the UX. Maybe it would be something I'd get used to if it was mine? Next, the engine. My IS feels as though it accelerates much quicker in comparison to the NX. I found the NX a little lethargic when accelerating and when trying to overtake at motorway speeds, the CVT makes the engine rev quite loudly, even though it's only for a few seconds at a time. In contrast, the UX does seem to be better. It does have the same CVT gearbox, however, when pushed there's a nice bit of shove from the electric motor. I have to say, I do wish this updated drive train was in the NX as I think it would make a big difference. As a disclaimer, I will add, I think the later NXs have been tweaked as the early NXs seemed to be a bit more rev happy. Although I have only driven the UX a short distance home (~60 miles) I have noticed that the way the car changes between petrol mode and electric mode is slightly different. Both can set off on electric only mode, however I have noticed that the UX sometimes leaves the engine running when driving at slow speeds. The electric motor is powering the wheels, and the ICE is powering the battery. It must be doing something right though as the onboard computer was showing 51mpg on the way home from Cardiff. Usually the NX is just about getting to 40mpg. In addition, the UX can power itself at motorway speeds in electric only mode. Both are great cars, but it does depend on what you want. If you want more space, and you are going to have people in the back, then the NX would be better for you. If there's just two of you in the car, and you don't need to carry lots on a regular basis, then the UX will be fine. I have the UX for another day. If there's anything you want me to video or take a photo of please let me know and i'll be happy to oblige. I am going to try to do a mini review (providing I have the time).