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Nice to see someone so enthusiastic about the brand, lets face it youtube videos about the RCF range from downright stupid to helpful. To me cars that do 0-60 in the 4 to 5 seconds are a good enough a benchmark for me but really don't tell the whole story. My last car a Mercedes CL65 was pretty quick to 60 but it was the way it took off once on the move that attracted me to it.

Thanks, I agree the size of the discs is an important consideration. I've seen quite a few cars on the USA forums with Vossen's fitted and liked them. I haven't figured out the lowering side yet although the cars need it for sure. I sent off a message to a girl in the USA ( Jen/Integress) who has an AVS equipped car and had it lowered but she has failed to answer my question yet.

Ah the wheels were only sent to me as an example of the concave profile they are not satin bronze, I've always liked that open look but only if you have decent sized discs behind them. I remember going to a car show and some American car had 22 inch wheels and the discs behind were the size of saucers, I pointed it out and laughed and just about everyone else thought it hilarious too. They are forged so will be strong enough despite not looking it.

I've managed to find some wheels that I like, they are Vossens 10 spoke concave as per the photo's. I've settled for 20 inch in satin bronze. So next will be the exhaust then perhaps a supercharger then I'll sell it!

I take your point but I've always run a few cars at the same time, and having done trackdays for about 30 odd years now I have concluded personally that there are cars you buy for the road and cars you buy for the track. Having said that you have run an Evora which along with the Boxster S i owned are two of the very limited number of cars for sensible money that can do both very well. I just think for Lexus to make the RCF a good trackday car it will take more than what they seem to have done to it, but I remain on the fence until a few decent drivers have taken it around a few tracks. But my conclusion still remains the same, buy a decent late RCF and a good track oriented car for the price of one track edition RCF. I still think manufacturers and salesman who push ceramic brakes for customers to use on a car for track use are just after money/commission because most people I have met on trackdays who have a car with them fitted as standard have taken their ceramic discs off stored them carefully away and bought steel replacements. OK unsprung weight is a factor but as I'm not a driving God I hadn't really noticed much difference in the handling but did appreciate being able to brake harder and later and never boiling my brakes. But all this would be worthless if you chip them on track by landing up in the kitty litter.

My point was that yes it is a nice car but it's fair to say that the RCF is not really that good a track day car, check out the Chris Harris video on the RCF. Very few cars within the sensible price range are good at both road and track. So if you like the RCF for the money if you are inclined to do the track day thing you might as well buy a car more suited and I would dare say more fun on track for the price of a new RCF track edition you could buy a decent RCF and a trackday car and still have plenty of change left to run the trackday car

I agree, oh there irony invalidating your warranty for using your track edition car on track.

I'm sure it's a nice car and may appeal to more buyers but personally speaking I can't see the point. I'm guessing a lot of these are probably sold via PCP deals as that seems to be the way things are these days. For me if I wanted a more track focused car I'd buy a secondhand and nearly new RCF with AVS, TVD etc for say £45K then buy a track focused car for £25K that way I'd still be under the budget of this new model and be able to get trackday insurance cover for the trackday car allowing me at least 10-12 visits per year. As a few of my friends have found out the cost of insuring their Aston Martins for the day was more than I paid for a year insuring my VX220 turbo track day car, plus you could really enjoy the limits of the car without worrying about binning it. I enjoy driving but have found these days with sneaky speed camera vans (i do have a Road Angel Pure detector) hiding on my favourite twisty roads those 'moments ' when you can really enjoy your car are becoming less and less. The standard RCF can still do smooth and comfortable really well then at the press of a few buttons do crazy quite well too. Which was the main reason I bought it as I find more of my driving on todays roads seems to be a little more sedate. OK more focussed cars like the M3-4, Alfa Quad, AMG are perhaps a bit more involving but in my opinion I find I'm not driving at 7/10th's all the time which is what they are good at but I found it a bit too much during an extended test drive in them. As anyone knows who has owned a car with carbon ceramic brakes they are good but if you go off the circuit into the kitty litter you could be in for a very expensive bill if they get chipped.

Nice spec same as mine, AVS, TVD mine has the extra speakers though. Quite a bit cheaper than mine that I bought 6 months ago.

I'll bear that in mind, but I have to say at this point I'm normally looking to see what I fancy next and in all honesty my Mini Clubvan and the RCF don't seem to have bored me in any way. Although I did say this about my CL65 at the six month stage and that I'd probably keep it longer than 12 months in fact it lasted 14 months which was sort of a record.

Many thanks, I'm definitely going the 10 spoke concave route. I am really tempted to buy another set of Vossen's and go 20 inch as they can be finished in two forms of Bronze plus I must have concave fronts.

Thanks, that's exactly what I'm looking for. Do you think any other modifications were required to fit them?

It would appear that most manufacturers make flatter fronts and concave rear which to me doesn't appeal. Would it be the case that concave wheels on the front which were designed for the rear would obstruct the callipers/discs if so would a small spacer do. I'm in un-chartered waters here so don't know the answer.

I think you're right there about the fronts having to be wider to achieve the concave look. I did send an e-mail to Bola as I like the look of the 10 spoke CSR wheel they do but didn't get a reply.

Thanks, I'm looking for 10 spoke concave style.

Thanks , I've seen the Vossen wheels which are forged and a bit pricey. I bought a set of Vossen's for my CL65 at a cost of over £7K and the new owner didn't want them so they are still stored in my garage and for sale at the moment for £4.5K so I'd better be careful as I may sell the car after I've bought them and land up with a collection of expensive wheels and no car to fit them on.

I have asked this question on Facebook as it seems that RCF owners in the USA go for aftermarket wheels with a vengeance. I'm looking for a set of wheels preferably with a matt bronze finish that have both front and back wheels with a concave design. I've found a set of Bola wheels that look concave on the rear but I'd like it on both. If anyone has any ideas please let me know. I'd rather stick with stock sizes too.

I was thinking about his review of the RCF, very nearly put me off buying one until I watched the Chris Harris review.

I'm looking forward to seeing and reading the test reports when this comes out. Let's just hope they go a bit further than just tweak the LCF from the current LC. Before I bought my RCF my mindset was that I wanted a decent big N/A V8, tried a rather nice special order V8 M3 but felt after 20 minuets into the test drive that you had to drive it at 7/10ths all the time. With all the adjustments available in the RCF I was able to dial in smooth when I wanted to then dial in crazy and that's what sold me on it. I know the LC is a big car but I'm sure there are a bunch of potential owners out in the market who want a big N/A engine that can do smooth but can dial in crazy when they want it. If Lexus were to genuinely attempt to draw on the kudos they got for producing the LFA and somehow put aspects of it in the new LCF they'd have a winner. I'm fully aware of the fact that the LCF won't be anywhere near the LFA for so many reasons but if they can do a genuine tip of the hat to the LFA with the LCF it could be a great success. Oh and of course keep it away from dicks like Doug Munro or whatever his name is.

Lets hope it isn't anything less than a V8, I know V6 turbo's engines are pushing out big power. I just hope Lexus follow the 458 line like they did with the Speciale rather than putting in a smaller go faster engine.

Great pity, but you're dead right. I make a point of not going anywhere near towns or cities, I live out in the sticks and can still have free range fun in my car although that is becoming more of a pain with my favourite bit of road the A272 between Petersfield and Winchester becoming a 50 mph limit and speed cameras littered all over the place.

That's interesting about the Civic like interior, many years ago I tried an NSX and loved most things about the car but the interior looked exactly the same as my wife's Prelude. I bought a late Lotus V8 Esprit instead which turned out to be a bad move. I too like the new one so will se how it goes long term.

Decent discs are good value no doubt, I bought Tarox bespoke discs for my V10 Phaeton when I first bought it as I'd read reports of them eating/warping standard discs. They were not cheap but never gave me cause for concern in the four years I ran the car.

You may have filled the tankers but there is only one refinery that produces high octane fuel and that is Stanlow by all accounts.

Would the price differ from what the main dealer would charge? plus if there was an issue the dealer fitted stuff would at least be covered.