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Yes just like favourable interest rate changes….rarely fully passed on and any benefits are always well after the event!🤬

Yes it’s crazy..and could well get to be a lot more! If used prices are effected, then the lower purchase price of the car/s you are eyeing up should more than offset the fuel cost.😉 Suppose we can compensate by using our more economical cars a bit more than normal until prices drop again…whenever that may be! 😫

Be interesting to see the effect of steeply rising fuel prices on our relatively fuel thirsty F cars.

I've just noticed it's shown as having had 5+ owners which will be a significant turn off.

They seem to be hanging about longer now. Perhaps prices are slowly beginning to normalise.

As Colin alluded to the actual numerical value is not so important...the normal segment of the gauge (eg. halfway) will suffice to show that the coolant has reached optimal operating pressure.

With all of my cars I've owned over the years, I've observed a noticeable drop in fuel economy. An engine isn't at its best until thoroughly warmed up which can take considerable time in cold weather - the temp gauge isn't a complete indication of engine temperature. My GSF also has an oil temperature gauge and this takes much longer to reach operating temperature than the coolant gauge.

Strange times we're in ....that is akin to: 'the more you eat the more weight you lose.' This is exactly how the universe should have been created if they got it right first time round!🌌🌴🏖

Ok...you will be given first refusal 😉

Blimey...sometimes wish I don't see these ads. My late 2017 GSF now with 31k miles cost me 35k 2 years ago....my head tells me to sell and when prices drop back buy again (when new cars are back in plentiful supply used prices across the board will fall). However my heart is winning the day so its going nowhere!

Thanks for posting Herbie….very informative. Been considering something for easy satnav/speed camera updates on my GSF and although I’m pretty happy with the OEM satnav interface, regular updates are not available and the infrequent updates are very expensive! Been watching video on the beat sonic system (US company I think) which is around half the price, but that is car play or Android auto only…this seems to be a more powerful option.

There is a company called beat sonic who sell an interface for seamless integration with your current multimedia system, ie. ability to quickly toggle between original interface/functionality and car play (or Android Auto). I have a GSF and have watched several videos showing figment and functionality - youtube videos by beat sonic themselves and bullets garage (GSF owner). it looks really good and off the top of my head £250 is as I remember. Don’t know what other cars are supported.

I also highly rate High Peak Autos for used reviews. Matt comes across as very genuine and injects a bit humour in too.

I've been veryy pleasantly surprised at the fuel economy of the GSF. I tend to get 25 to 26 mpg in mixed driving but it really excels itself on runs that involve more constant speeds.....I always get in excess of 30mpg particularly on motorways. A recent 200 mile trip up the A1 saw 35.4mpg at a steady 75mph...with spells at around 65mph due to slower traffic on parts of the 2 lane sections. Very impressive for a 5.0 v8 in my book.

Never had ISF but have had a 2017 GSF for 2 years. Fantastic car in every way....do it!!!

Have you spoken to the dealer (Lexus?). If the Halfords appraisal is correct, I can’t see why you would have any difficulty returning the car and settling the finance…you should get 14 days to cancel finance with no more than an admin charge (and I would look to the dealer to settle that!).

Which site did you end up ordering from….did you get pads too?

Well slightly further afield such as Midlands, Anglia, South Wales etc (unless you consider anything south of Durham darn sarf as I did before moving from Geordie land to Peterborough 😂 This extract from the Esso website should be helpful to check ethanol free areas (it’s encouraging that they seem to imply it will remain ethanol free in these areas unless they are forced by legislation to do otherwise). Cut and pasted from Esso website: though our pumps have E5 labels on them, our Synergy Supreme+99 is actually ethanol free (except, due to technical supply reasons, in Devon, Cornwall, North Wales, North England and Scotland). Legislation requires us to place these E5 labels on pumps that dispense unleaded petrol with ‘up to 5% ethanol’, including those that contain no ethanol, which is why we display them on our Synergy Supreme+ 99 pumps.

@CJP1 could you confirm that your quoted numbers are at crank (flywheel) or rear wheel. you also mentioned 7000 rpm. Pretty sure peak bhp is at 7100 rpm. The chart done for my GSF shows a significant amount of extra hp between 7000 and 7200 rpm. BTW There is a typo in my first post. My GSF chart reads 454.4 and not 464 as I quoted. That would see our cars virtually the same if measurement taken from same source.

Don’t dynojet do rwhp only and other makes give options for either (even though default is at crank)? Motorcycle dynos always use rwhp which eliminates the fairly crude conversion guestimate that an RR needs to make to calculate crank? As you say that number is high for rwhp, but on low side for crank. Be interesting to confirm whether it was crank up or not.

445/7 bhp is a very healthy, if not overly optimistic reading. On a dyno rear wheel bhp is being measured whereas the 471bhp quoted by the manufacturer is measured at the crank. A lot of energy is lost in the transmission (through friction/waste heat) so rear wheel bhp is always substantially less. Even chain driven motor cycles lose a surprising amount of bhp at the rear wheel known as rear wheel horsepower (RWHP) - a chain is very efficient compared to the gearbox, differential and a pair of wheels with wider tyres on a car, eg. a 165 bhp bike would typically have 135 to 140 rwhp…the loss through a car transmission is greater. My GSF came with a dyno chart from a session the previous owner had done, and it showed 464 bhp. Realising this was overly optimistic (or power had been raised above stock) I searched forums for GSF and RCF results and cars which were stock came out at no more than around 413 rwhp and quite a few were a tad under 400. It also became very evident that dyno results vary widely from one to another, so comparisons can’t be made unless carried out on the same machine. In a nutshell 445 rwhp does not suggest your car is down on power.

Happens with my GSF particularly with cold tyres.

I’m living testimony of lingering E5 in motorcycle fuel systems…to be avoided at all costs. Obviously E10 will be so much worse. Do not allow a vehicle to stand for long periods of time with that stuff in. FYI, Esso premium has no ethanol at all in much of the country (see their website) so is my fuel of choice (if you’re gonna pay for premium then you may as well benefit from zero ethanol). Don’t be fooled by its E5 label which simply means ‘up to 5%’ ethanol and must be displayed by law(there is no such label as E0). All is explained on Esso website.

Yes just in the last day or so. It was still in AT at the weekend. As you say buying such a car from a main dealer gives huge peace of mind, which many are willing to pay a lot more for.

That’s good news! Could you give another update in a month or two to report back on how you are finding them (including whether or not surface rust is an issue).