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Thanks for the feedback John. I didn't even know acoustic feedback was fitted! 3.7 miles per KWhr is more like it and makes for what, a 250 mile range? My mix of M/way and A & B rioads showed 3.1 to 3.2 miles/KWhr (3.1 this morning dropping into the high 2's). Tyre life I would expect to be less, and less still on a demonstrator. Whilst I only tried the acceleration on a slip road, I guess many will find it addictive and treat a demo car differently to if it were there own so perhaps use a heavier right boot. Glad you like it. There's a lot to like about it. I guess I'm too long in the teeth to want such an app based touchscreen type of experience so for me, the RX wins out overall but it was a surprisingly close run thing as I hugely enjoyed the RZ and if I were in the market for a luxury electric vehicle, that might well be what I'd end up with.

Meant to say, as well as my Honda lawnmower I have a Honda T shirt 😅 Maybe some day I will have a Lexus T shirt 😅

Hi Paul, just to answer a few points. Since the software update I have seen a significant increase in range. Over the weekend I just completed a 410 mile round trip mostly motorways. Travelling at 70mph with ac on and an outside temp of 17-18 deg I averaged a total for the journey of 3.3miles/kwh. On a 80 mile stint between services stations it did an exceptional 3.7mile/kwh. As a long term critic of the RZ, I have to say I am more than pleased with this. I had no range anxiety and no problems the 2 times I stopped. Have to say I have never experienced any high pitch noise at motorway speeds. Indeed it is very quiet at 70mph. I have though switched off the acoustic noise or whatever you call it which probably helps. The various bongs were annoying at first but you get used to them and I don't really notice anymore. Finally, if it needs new tyres at 6000 miles it has obviously had a hard life. Mines done 5500 and the tyres are in excellent conditions and I would expect at least 15000 if I were to keep it.

Probably an easy peasy task making it so complicating. If they don't I will get my insurer to deal with it. It's a brand new 73plate.

Thank you Ed. So many videos on YouTube how to calibrate but nothing about touchscreen like mine. Appreciate your help.

After thinking on it, I've decided to replace my superb RX3 (still feels like new to drive and not far looking like it either!). I'm in for major spinal surgery later in the year and wanted something slightly more compliant on the suspension as I feel every bump with my back being as it is. I looked at various models, discounted most other makes after driving or looking at what was on offer and narrowed it down to a newer Rav4 hybrid or an RX4 or RZ. Long story short, it seems that whilst we simply don't need the room, there's nothing that floats my boat as much as the RX. It just does so much right. I'm now in the market for an RX4 F Sport Takumi and the best compliment I can give it, is they've taken all the best bits from the RX3 F Sport and made them better whilst doing away with the worst bits. I'm opting for the last of the 3.5 V6 models. My RX3 has been the best car I've ever owned. Reliable, comfortable, adequate performance and road holding, practical and just a lovely thing to drive. Bodywork has stood the test of time and a wash and spruce up see's it good enough to be back on a showroom floor, even the alloys look new. If the RX4 proves to be anything as reliable but builds on the comfort and longevity, it may be the last car I ever need. Briefly seduced by an LC500 but my wife simply talked sense to me, being the more practical person she is! Looks like another ten years with Lexus looms for me. If anyone is on the market for a top spec Fsport RX3 with silly low miles, PM me. I will be adding photos etc and putting it in the for sale section when I get half a chance...

I'm sure Lexus will be happy to resolve the issue but it would be chargeable - tell your repairer to either fix the issue or you will be sending them a bill.

Crikey VLANs for a car, what's next Malwarebytes that decides it's bad to listen to Jazz and blocks your radio!!

Imzy... the yellow triangle in the top left hand corner of the screen indicates software is not setup my replacement camera showed the same symbol. I well do a search on you tube and see if I can find the appropriate video.

Long time since I posted on here, due to moves/illnesses in my family, but I thought I'd share my thoughts on the RZ which I was fortunate enough to have for the day yesterday, after leaving mine off for it's 100K service (despite having only covered 45 miles) returning it today, courtesy of Lister's Lexus, Cheltenham. I was thinking of changing our ten year old RX3 and wanted to see of the RZ floated our boat. I'm not a big all electric vehicle fan but decided to take one out with an open mind. Had my RX3 from a few years old, so just under 8 years now and whilst it's not been without the odd issue, by and large, it's been excellent and electrical glitches aside, dependable. Our RX is an F-Sport with most of the options boxes ticked, so ML sound system, roof bars, LEDs, HUD etc etc. The RZ borrowed was a top spec Takumi model. I'll keep it brief, ignore things that don't really matter and just get into the knub of things. First thing: It's not physically quite as large or spacious as the RX, the boot in particular is quite modest and it's sleeker, no doubt for bettering the drag coefficient to help range. This in mind, they've also omitted a rear wiper (a bit no-no for me) as it added too much to drag apparently (Can't see it had to as the RX's cleverly hide them under the rear spoiler, but there we do). I quite liked the looks, in fact I prefer the RZ over the new bulbous RX which I'm not a fan of on looks. Interior is very pleasant. Seats are comfortable, supportive (better than the RX3 imho but not quite as supportive as the RX4 F Sport Takumi) and have adequate adjustment. Rear pillion space is ok too, but looked a little more cramped than the RX4 I also looked at. Fit and finish is all top notch as I'd have expected. I'll get onto controls and things a little later. Drive: I wasn't really sure what to expect but found the drive in busy town work was exceptional. Silent, cosseted, smooth and the suspension better tuned than the RX3 F-Sport. On A roads, it handled well enough but push it a little too hard and the weight becomes obvious in the bends. The steering was slightly too under weighted and direct for my likes too with very little feedback from the road. It's not a car I'd want to push on twisty roads, as it suits a smoother more gentle approach to keep things from getting out of hand especially given the lack of feedback. I wasn't sure what to make of performance, having never driven one and published figures I guessed were pessimistic as with most Lexus performance specs. I simply was not expecting it to be as fast. Acceleration in sport mode is simply phenomenal! It would easily show a clean pair of heals to many mid sized motorbikes, never mind ICE sports cars, in a straight line at least. It isn't just quick it's genuinely fast, by any standard, on acceleration and this would make for effortless, if eyebrow raising overtakes. You definitely need to chose the time and place, and watch the speed to avoid racking up points. On the motorway, the feeling of a luxurious ride continued, with very little tyre or wind noise. They've absolutely nailed the aerodynamics on this model. However (there was bound to be at least one), I did find that the high pitch of the motors became monotonous at motorway speeds and could see this becoming yawn inducing, like listening to one of those white noise audio files which are designed to help induce sleep. I was watching the range keenly, and noted that as I left the showroom, air con off, and in standard mode, it read 193 miles of range on close to 100% battery. By the time I'd covered 27 miles, that was down to 163 miles, but as some of those were motorway miles driven at 70, I expected a little less than normal bimbling. The info told me it was averaging about 3.2 miles per KWhr so range left was probably about right. A few miles had to be put up later on taking my son to cricket and back, then returning to Lexus this morning via the same route taken yesterday. This time the chilly 7am start meant I had to use the rear window de-mister for a fair few miles and had the heating up a little, as well as the radio on. I was shocked at what a difference this made to range. Navigating pre-rush hour traffic saw a busy motorway trip followed by a not too bad urban crawl back by which time the range indicated I think 127 miles left. It seems for the average driver with heater used, A/C on, radio on and lights was well as rear screen demist, the more realistic range before range anxiety would set in is an honest 150 miles, well short of the 270 odd advertised. To get that, you'd have to be doing a steady 55mph, on flat uncongested roads without anything switched on other than the motor working at a guess, so my prejudices were founded. Overall, I was very impressed indeed with the RZ but could I see it replacing the RX? No, not a chance. Until the UK has way more working charging points it would become a headache. For commuting work, it's simply too expensive an option when you could have an ES, NX plug in hybrid or similar for less and for utility, the Rav 4 Hybrid is a better option imho. Whist I'm on dislikes, a major one for me is the electronic ICE system including controls. I found the controls unintuitive, difficult to figure out until I'd had an hour or two with it, and even then simply couldn't get on with a touch screen for some options, and steering wheel controls for most of the others. I got really fed up with all the bing bong warnings and interruption of the navigation screen (once I'd figured out how to access it) for messages about my phone not being connected and when rear passengers were taken, the message "check rear seats" comes up after switching off (apparently due to an american lady leaving a child in the rear whilst doing hr shopping and then trying to sue lexus when the child overheated!). There was too much nannying going on behind the wheel with too much superfluous information, a bewildering array of options within controls and over reliance on a touch screen, which if that ever went down would render the use of the car very difficult. Likes: ride quality was superb, quiet and comfortable. Performance was blistering when demanded. Dislikes: High pitch sleep inducing motor noise at motorway speeds, infotainment system, controls, bells and other bing bong warnings, constant messages popping up on screen, tyre life very limited. This one has 6K miles from new and was looking like tyre replacements were shortly due due to the weight and torque on tap. Taking into account, tyre life and frequency of recharges, I doubt whether overall, it would be much more economical an ownership prospect than the RX. Range really not that impressive in real world driving scenarios. It would make for a comfortable and luxurious option for a chelsea tractor, or commuting from the sticks to town providing you had a charger at home. Whilst there, I also took a look at a Takumi spec F-Sport RX4 a few years old, the last of the 3.5 V6 models. It was roomier, to my mind a little more comfortable and supportive with far more sensible controls not as reliant as the giant tablet screen on the RZ. It was also roomier and had more compliant adaptive suspension over my RX3's standard set up. I have put myself on a list to exchange mine for a 2020 to 2022 F-Sport Takumi as a result. For anyone interested I am now looking for a new owner for my excellent RX3, still within the ten year warranty, fdsh from new and absolutely anything needed has been done including the big service. Underneath it's clean as a whistle as I've lanoguard treated it and has a good 200K miles left in it.

As an exercise I think someone once put a price on building a car from scratch using the parts prices. If I remember right the cost was enormous. One check I made a while ago Standard plugs for an ISF £14 from a specialist, BMW M3 £25, Big Motorcycle £7. You can go mad and buy special ones for £25plus.

Yeah, sorry that’s what I meant @BigBoomer It was the very first thing I bought for the car (£10 from Halfords) but it’s absolutely horrendous for any sort of music. You could probably get away with it if you were just listening to podcasts etc

I have moved from a 2009 Volvo XC90 to a 2024 RX450+ and having just completed my first longer trip I feel like I’ve been propelled forward from the stone age into the modern era. Overall I love the car; it’s so quiet and smooth and I love the adaptive cruise. I did however find the steering inputs and frequent beeps and alerts more distracting than helpful at times. Some examples are driver attention alerts when I’m looking at the road but it thinks I’m not. E.g rubbed my face with my hand. Others included not seeing a way to dismiss the take a break suggestion which kept flashing up on the hud (prompted I think by me approaching the centre line on twisty roads?) or pushing me back towards a fallen branch I was trying to steer round on a country lane. Do you just get used to the inputs after a while or have others adjusted settings to find the right level of support? If so, how have you amended the settings? I’m aware some settings reset every start up, so it would be great to know what you’ve changed permanently and what you do each time you start up to get the right balance. If the answer is “you’ll get used to it” then so be it! I’m also aware the systems are designed to improve safety so am keeping that in mind. I couldn’t see another thread on this but if there is an older thread that covers it please could someone direct me to it. Thanks in advance David

Wow, a 1% discount 😄 You could import that same wheel from the other side of the planet, get a new tyre for it, and still have £1K change. Dealer prices really are ridiculous.

Here's what they could do if they actually cared.

Nothing seems to last as long anymore. Can't see new cars lasting as long as my Lexus at 18 years old...

Anthony ………. sale progress ? Malc

Not a bad idea but you are more likely to get stabbed on a bus nowadays. On the IP issues, I think the canbus security is so useless because it costs money to make it better and the manufacturers did not, or did not want to, see the proliferation of attacks coming. What ever happened to simple IP security, Firewalls, managed routing and containment of IP addresses ( Physical and Virtual ). They just couldn't be bothered or did not see the expense as necessary maybe.🤨

Try holding the unlock button on the fob for 5 seconds, then do the same with the lock button. Apparently that will reset the central locking.

Hi all, Anyone had issues with central locking on IS250's, [2010 F Sport Petrol] Since purchasing in September '23, it would always unlock all doors via the key or interior buttons, but only the drivers door from keyless entry [I was going to investigate this summer]. Yesterday I could only unlock drivers door electronically, all others stayed locked. Couldn't even unlock with key or interior buttons then today it's all working as normal again. I can't be the only one to have come across this fault. Just to save people time...it's got nothing to do with the key settings via dealer programming.

Any suggestions on where to buy one (either new or 2nd hand). Have the VSC Off error and P0420 error and want to eliminate the fuel cap first. Thanks.

Ed, do reckon the software will update the camera accordingly as most videos I've seen people commented that after a little while the lines came back. Weird

You’ll miss her and end up buying yourself a replacement Ls400 😄 Malc

Working in Cyber, I have been aware of the CAN protocol for a while, but found this article gives a overview of the route to hacking. CAN hacking As it says the CAN is based on the IP protocol (the Internet basically) which is highly hacked, and all this sh*t reminds me of back in 1980 the networks I played with were a lot more secure and when I fisrt looked at IP (1981) I began to realise it was a potential to be open and a tad of a target for the crims. This is why CAN attacks were few and far between until (more or less) around 2019, when the crims appear to have got their act together and worked out how to connect to the network and attack it like they would attack your router or PC on your home (or office) network. Makes me think that when time comes to replace my car it would be a pair of shoes and bus pass as the replacement

Well since this Herbie fix doesn't seem to be a thing any longer, I did the other thing, which is I took it to the local shop and paid surprisingly only 1100 euros for a new control box and the repair work. It works now, so everything turned out all right in the end.