Security

[mgl6966]

I currently deciding on which security to install on my IS300.

My options:

1. Clifford Avantguard OR Clifford Matrix (import from USA, newest system).

2. Millennium Max 2 Way Alarm Starter System

see: http://www.virtualalarms.com/millSFMax2.html

3. A recommendation by anyone satisfied with their non-standard alarm.

Ive already got Clifford Concept 600 (with remote engine start) on my current car (Celica), but wondered if anyone knows how good the second alarm above is, cos the price puts me off... simply cos im not sure how it can be so cheap and give ALL those features, like the two-way communitaion! But if its legit and secure, i will get that! anyone post their views please!

[dark_is200]

The IS already has a Thatcham cat 1 alarm so why not get a tracking system (e.g. Tracker) instead?

[mgl6966]

I know they have decent standard security, but Clifford and even the Millennium Max 2 Way Alarm have the handy remote start. I also really like the idea of the Millennium Max 2 Way Alarm because of the LCD remote which shows you which part of the car has been triggered.

Not only that, but systems like the clifford let you open/close windows to vent the car, all from the comfort of your home and when the Battery is low it starts the car to help it and shuts down again. (can be disabled if you like) Little extra features such as these is why i want to change the security.

Tracker is very good too, that is also going to be installed.

[JOHNNY-BOY]

I'd stick to Clifford if I were you.

I've had Clifford's fitted to all my previous cars, still got one on my VW Bug. I don't think you can beat the warning a Clifford sticker & LED gives to TWOCER scum bags.

[andyhart21]

I dont know how true this is, but I read that the Clifford Avantgard has not yet got Thatcham approval.

[JOHNNY-BOY]

I dont know how true this is, but I read that the Clifford Avantgard has not yet got Thatcham approval.

Been reading Max Power Andy??

[Admin]

I heard that clifford are toilet and are over hyped with mass marketing with large stickers in the back of cars.

[andyhart21]

I dont know how true this is, but I read that the Clifford Avantgard has not yet got Thatcham approval.

Been reading Max Power Andy??

How did you guess Johnny? :D

The motoring equivalent of the Daily Sport

[mgl6966]

LOL!

The huge Cliffors stickers are usually put on there by boy racers to send a signal out to thieves that they aint getting their car!

Ive seen the result of a proffesional thief trying to steal a Cliffor armed car. Lets just say he gave up and just took a playstation pad from the boot. Oh and the BlackJax anti-carjack module, the best thing ever!

Proximity sensors, digital tilt sensors (detects the car being lifted more than an ich of the ground (deters wheel theft)), together with other modules, BlackJax, etc the - clifford is probably the best you can get.

Toad do good ones too, might i add.

I think i will get a top of the range Clifford then, cos the standard one doesnt offer the features i need.

Thanks for your comments guys!

Oh and anybody know where to get a replacement housing for the audio unit, so that i can install two DIN sized Alpine units? Thanks!

[TonyGoose]

Clifford and even the Millennium Max 2 Way Alarm have the handy remote start........

and when the battery is low it starts the car to help it and shuts down again.

I don't suppose anyone is too concerned but ....

If you use these 'handy' remote / auto start features while your car is on a public highway, you're breaking the law

[dark_is200]

Clifford and even the Millennium Max 2 Way Alarm have the handy remote start........

and when the battery is low it starts the car to help it and shuts down again.

I don't suppose anyone is too concerned but ....

If you use these 'handy' remote / auto start features while your car is on a public highway, you're breaking the law

Could this also be a bit dangerous if you leave it in gear? Or does it not let you start if the car is in gear?

[Andy.thomas]

Clifford and even the Millennium Max 2 Way Alarm have the handy remote start........

and when the battery is low it starts the car to help it and shuts down again.

I don't suppose anyone is too concerned but ....

If you use these 'handy' remote / auto start features while your car is on a public highway, you're breaking the law

Could this also be a bit dangerous if you leave it in gear? Or does it not let you start if the car is in gear?

Hmmm, not sure about the breaking of the law, but i can see huge benefits in fun, getting the car to start on it's own whilst im sat in histerics in a McD's

[Rob]

its illegal to have a car engine running whilst there is no driver in the vehicle.

[SteveAudioX]

i got the clifford system in my is200. concept 500 with intellistart, headlight activation, trunk release, window roll ups etc etc.... great piece of kit...the clifford maxrix system is new, a totally different system to that of the G4 range. slightly cheaper though... just make sure you get a good installation done.. did mine all myself! works everytime and no false alarms either.

[mgl6966]

Thanks for the info guys.

The Matrix system looks very advanced and should be worth the effort, but i may stick with a concept system, like the 600.

Im happy with my current system on my current car and as you say, ive never had a false alarm in over 2 years.

Im not keen on taking my IS apart to install it myself, but theres a Clifford Shop round the corner from me who does everyones car in the hood, so should be ok to ask them to fit it... ive even seen a bentley out there once!

Im gonna look into the matrix system a bit more before i decide, cos if its a more advanced then it makes sense getting that fitted.

Intellistart rocks dont it?! The number of people ive left baffed in car parks, outside my house... my neighbour knocked on the door once and said, hey you forgot car running! I started it to let the aircon cool the inside before my journey!