The Dark Side Called.

[lexusdaduk]

I still have the 430 and boy what a difference this dark side is one hell of a machine totally chalk and cheese.

Lucky I can have both. BMW 730d amazing.

I suppose i got a bit fed up of being driven around even though you actually drive a Lexus LS you still feel chauffeured, you have to be on top of this cat.

[Ruud]

What year is the BM?

[lexusdaduk]

What year is the BM?

It's a 2012 F01

[LexIS200Sport]

The 7-series are amazing cars, congratulations on your new toy :)

[GoldfingerLS]

I still have the 430 and boy what a difference this dark side is one hell of a machine totally chalk and cheese.

Lucky I can have both. BMW 730d amazing.

I suppose i got a bit fed up of being driven around even though you actually drive a Lexus LS you still feel chauffeured, you have to be on top of this cat.

How do you rate the pickup and performance of the 730d vs the LS430. I know that the 730d is 245 bhp vs 290 bhp from the LS430. is it a big difference or not that noticable unless you floor it ?

[lexusdaduk]

I still have the 430 and boy what a difference this dark side is one hell of a machine totally chalk and cheese.

Lucky I can have both. BMW 730d amazing.

I suppose i got a bit fed up of being driven around even though you actually drive a Lexus LS you still feel chauffeured, you have to be on top of this cat.

How do you rate the pickup and performance of the 730d vs the LS430. I know that the 730d is 245 bhp vs 290 bhp from the LS430. is it a big difference or not that noticable unless you floor it ?

well after you have chosen from one of the 6 different settings which is literately the push of a button or the slide across of the stick it's one mean machine.

Engine: 3.0-litre 6cyl twin-turbo

* Power/torque: 242bhp/540Nm

* Transmission: Six-speed automatic, rear-wheel drive

* 0-62mph: 7.2 seconds

* Top speed: 153mph

* Econ/CO2: 39.2mpg/192g/km =£225.00 per year.

​It's not the horses it's the torque and twin turbos that pushes this along, take up is blisteringly quick and the reaction is instant low down I have not yet used sport+ or Msport yet as it's quick in comfort and comfort+, going from stand still to 30 is no effort it just glides up to it and almost every car is still at the starting block when i glance in the rear view mirror. coupled with the fact I have done 315 miles on half a tank zooming about urban, country lane and motorway I can safely say I would have visited the petrol station with the Lexus at least once.

The BMW is a drivers car the ride is firm even in comfort + you have to look at it from the perspective that you will never beat a Lexus for ride, toys, comfort and possibly reliability, that's why I am lucky to have both.

[rayaans]

I still have the 430 and boy what a difference this dark side is one hell of a machine totally chalk and cheese.

Lucky I can have both. BMW 730d amazing.

I suppose i got a bit fed up of being driven around even though you actually drive a Lexus LS you still feel chauffeured, you have to be on top of this cat.

How do you rate the pickup and performance of the 730d vs the LS430. I know that the 730d is 245 bhp vs 290 bhp from the LS430. is it a big difference or not that noticable unless you floor it ?

well after you have chosen from one of the 6 different settings which is literately the push of a button or the slide across of the stick it's one mean machine.

Engine: 3.0-litre 6cyl twin-turbo

* Power/torque: 242bhp/540Nm

* Transmission: Six-speed automatic, rear-wheel drive

* 0-62mph: 7.2 seconds

* Top speed: 153mph

* Econ/CO2: 39.2mpg/192g/km =£225.00 per year.

​It's not the horses it's the torque and twin turbos that pushes this along, take up is blisteringly quick and the reaction is instant low down I have not yet used sport+ or Msport yet as it's quick in comfort and comfort+, going from stand still to 30 is no effort it just glides up to it and almost every car is still at the starting block when i glance in the rear view mirror. coupled with the fact I have done 315 miles on half a tank zooming about urban, country lane and motorway I can safely say I would have visited the petrol station with the Lexus at least once.

The BMW is a drivers car the ride is firm even in comfort + you have to look at it from the perspective that you will never beat a Lexus for ride, toys, comfort and possibly reliability, that's why I am lucky to have both.

Oh my friend, didnt you consider the LS460???!!?!

You've gone to the dark side indeed - devils fuel, diesel!

or.....there's always the LS600h if you need more POWER!

[lexusdaduk]

I still have the 430 and boy what a difference this dark side is one hell of a machine totally chalk and cheese.

Lucky I can have both. BMW 730d amazing.

I suppose i got a bit fed up of being driven around even though you actually drive a Lexus LS you still feel chauffeured, you have to be on top of this cat.

How do you rate the pickup and performance of the 730d vs the LS430. I know that the 730d is 245 bhp vs 290 bhp from the LS430. is it a big difference or not that noticable unless you floor it ?

well after you have chosen from one of the 6 different settings which is literately the push of a button or the slide across of the stick it's one mean machine.

Engine: 3.0-litre 6cyl twin-turbo

* Power/torque: 242bhp/540Nm

* Transmission: Six-speed automatic, rear-wheel drive

* 0-62mph: 7.2 seconds

* Top speed: 153mph

* Econ/CO2: 39.2mpg/192g/km =£225.00 per year.

​It's not the horses it's the torque and twin turbos that pushes this along, take up is blisteringly quick and the reaction is instant low down I have not yet used sport+ or Msport yet as it's quick in comfort and comfort+, going from stand still to 30 is no effort it just glides up to it and almost every car is still at the starting block when i glance in the rear view mirror. coupled with the fact I have done 315 miles on half a tank zooming about urban, country lane and motorway I can safely say I would have visited the petrol station with the Lexus at least once.

The BMW is a drivers car the ride is firm even in comfort + you have to look at it from the perspective that you will never beat a Lexus for ride, toys, comfort and possibly reliability, that's why I am lucky to have both.

Oh my friend, didnt you consider the LS460???!!?!

You've gone to the dark side indeed - devils fuel, diesel!

or.....there's always the LS600h if you need more POWER!

Looked and test drove both, they turned out not that removed from my 430 in power and feel in fact too similar, so in my mind I would be just throwing ££££ at the same thing, I looked at the GS450h boot too small so had to discount that right away (shame) with the LS460 I felt right at home immediately, knew every toy and felt like the 430 too much, the 600h a little different but 430 territory again.

The S class was just plain awful in fact I was disappointed with it, Mercedes peddle it as their flagship luxury model well my 430 beat it hands down on everything and the drive was plastic and detached.

The BMW has the toys and the luxury but it's a driver car and that's what I had been missing you feel planted on the road connected I really do enjoy driving it and not feeling driven + I am hoping to arrive at Uzes on one tank of fuel Ha HA.

I have a few projects lined up first.

Tinted windows smoke on rear ( we have a long drive down to the south of france in 2 weeks ) Practically this is for the kids and sun glare in the back.

I am toying with fitting a wrapped black carbon fibre roof I think it will look great.

I have the media snap in adapter for connecteddrive, assist & BMW apps etc.

As I say the Lexus has taken a back seat for me at the moment but for now and the future it is still firmly in the stable and not going anywhere soon, mechanically sound all the buttons work and cosmetically ++++ turn on and go, (touch wood) the wife loves it.

[Ruud]

In the spirit of other people suggesting what you should have tried first - I do hope you tried the Dacia Duster? ;)

[Malc]

I remember, back a few years now, I drove a P reg ( yes that long ago ) BMW 540i for a short while and even I felt it was a Driver's car. Superb, and I compared it to the Ls400 I had at the time and decided the Lexus was going to be far less prone to huge bills .......... and the 540i was going to be a little too sensitive to my not so delicate handling and be a bit of a financial drain to me.

Been with Ls400s forever now it seems

Malc