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I had an IS250 for a fair few years and an IS300h for two years. I halved my petrol bill and loved the times I could just cruise along on pure electric. I wouldn't swap it back for the V6 although that's a great engine and transmission combo. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I chopped my NX300h in for the S 60D, so have a £750 referral code you could use. In fairness so has @ganzoom and this is his thread so if he posts it you could use that. I also totally understand that £750 is a drop in the ocean but "every little helps". In case you are seriously considering it, the S 60kWh is being discontinued from mid April, the entry level will be the 75kWh - and that's another chunk of money to find. That's a real shame but I think Tesla are trying to put clear water between the Model 3 and Model S pricing.

Looking very good @ganzoom, glad you're pleased with it after the Long Wait! I'm not sure that "slow" or "cheap" belong in any sentence involving a Tesla though

I also meant to say yes, it is a bit bigger but you soon get used to that. All I can say about the Tesla is that whatever you do, do not test drive one. If you enjoy the smooth, quiet electric aspect of the hybrid drivetrain you will be blown away by the all electric drivetrain and man maths takes on a new dimension

I went from IS300h F Sport To NX 300h F Sport Both with Premium Nav. I did not regret making the switch for one moment, which is not to say the IS is a bad car, far from it, but IMO the NX is a move up in quality. The ride height is obviously different, and a definite advantage particularly on motorway driving. The power tailgate is suddenly something you don't ever want to do without, and the alloys are much much safer than those on the IS! The drivetrain is slightly more intrusive but only noticeable when pushing it, and that's not my style of driving anyway. I was concerned it might be underpowered as it's much heavier than the IS but has the same engine. Again, IMO not an issue and it is plenty fast enough. I too wanted a change, and am sure you will be pleased. I'm afraid I have just, reluctantly left the brand and now have this: The move from my IS 250 to the IS300h sold me on the hybrid concept, so the next logical step was all electric. I would have been over the moon had Lexus decided to enter the fray, but cutting edge isn't really their style. Maybe one day they will, but in the meantime this will have to do [emoji23]. And it does very very nicely indeed! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I understand what you are saying. Some owners say things like "it's a £40k car with a £30k battery". There is some truth in that, for the price you can buy a better built car, no doubt about it. There is certainly a premium being paid for the technology, to an extent the battery, and Elon Musk will readily admit without people buying the S and X the 3 couldn't be built. Tesla have a lot of work to do to get the 3 to market, and the market won't be as forgiving as the early S and X adopters have been/are. An added problem of course is the current exchange rate. It might sound funny but what pushed me over the edge was the day Marmite went up by 12% and Apple stuck hundreds of £'S on the price of a Mac. Man maths was working overtime before Brexit as it was [emoji23] Musk wants other players in the EV market, so do I, but at the moment there's nothing even close to the Tesla out there IMO. The Jaguar iPace looks interesting but without a network of fast charging points I'm not convinced it's a real challenger. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

There are grants available now for firms to put them in for staff. My daily commute is only 5 miles so haven't bothered having one put in. And before someone says I could have got a Leaf, my golf clubs wouldn't fit [emoji6] Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Not awkward at all, and the charger locks into the port so no scallywag can unplug you. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I've not done it but many owners have and it is very easy. Bearing in mind you will have range of at least 150 miles, have a look at this map. A charge from 20% to 80% takes about 20/30 mins. I doubt you'd need to stop more than you normally would doing a 500 mile journey normally. And yes, quick off the mark and silent. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I have, and people far far cleverer than I have convinced me that it is just too difficult and volatile a substance to be used as a reliable sustainable alternative to fossil fuels. There may well be industrial applications but not for day to day use for the millions of car drivers. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

A few hastily taken pics for you. It's a lot better than it used to be, but it's not as good as the price of the car suggest it should be. I guess that's partly the American thing, and partly because you're paying for the tech,battery, and finding the Model 3. Little things like, no coat hooks, no vanity mirror lights, no rear centre armrest. Hmmmm, how much is this car? Then get behind the wheel and put your foot down, who gives a **** about a coat hook [emoji23] On the charging at home issue, a charge point installed will dish out 32 amps, which is 22 miles an hour. Full tank every morning. Oh, and of course the app allows you to heat or cool the car before you get in, and will draw the power for that from your domestic supply not the car battery. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

[emoji23] Ganzoom is picking his X up very soon, I'm sure he wouldn't mind me saying. I covered the range in a post just above. It's a different mindset, rather than "how far?" It's "I have a full tank every morning, do I need more today?". Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Lots of question, I'll do my best with answers. The autonomy is in its infancy. The adaptive cruise control (called TACC) is not as good as Lexus - yet. In brief a change of supplier has actually put the newer cars back. Autosteer also in beta. Auto lane changing and lots more being rolled out over time. One of the massive USP's of Tesla is that all the cars get software updates on a regular basis, free of charge. Think iPad on wheels! How many miles range? How long is a piece of string? Just like in a "normal" car how you drive and the weather play a big part. Mine is the smallest battery, 60kWh. Worst case scenario in wet, cold weather and pushing it I'd get 150 miles. In the summer, gently wafting around, a smidge over 200. The question to ask yourself though, how often do you need to drive 150/200 miles without a break? For me, not very often, and when I do the Tesla Supercharger network gives me 80% charge in about 20/30 mins - enough time for a comfort break and a coffee. That 80% means I have another chunk of miles in the tank. It takes a bit more planning, of that there is no doubt, and it doesn't work for everyone. Having the ability to charge at home is vital IMO. I can plug in when I get home and using E7 leccy it's cheap as chips. Does it fit in the garage. Depends on the garage! Mine, no way. The car is BIG, full size Jag, Beemer 7 series scenario. I worked out my NX was costing about 16p a mile in petrol, the Tesla is 2p. That's the only part of the maths that makes any sense though! The rest is man maths [emoji23]. Hope that's helps. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

That is a really good question and one that troubled me for some time, especially coming from Lexus. The build quality and reliability is much better than a couple of years ago. The door handles, for example, were prone to failure I believe due to the way a cable was run. Pretty much now eradicated. However, it is still a leap of faith and they are learning and improving all the time. It's an expensive car and a mistake IMO to compare it to an established manufacturers luxury offering at the same price. I have paid a premium for the battery, the tech and to an extent funding the Model 3 and the Supercharger network. The word "awesome" is horribly overused but it's the only word I can accurately use to describe the driving experience. The torque is instantaneous, the car has the same centre of gravity as a Lotus Elise and is as silent as you like. It's that experience that makes one forgive the slight trim failings or the lack of a rear arm rest etc etc. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I pretty much stumbled on to Lexus nearly 10 years ago and since then have had an IS250 SE, IS300h F Sport and for the last 18 months an NX300h F Sport. The 250 I sold to a colleague when I bought the 300h and is, of course, still going strong (so's the colleague [emoji846]). Terrific cars and not a moments trouble from any of them, plus great service from my local dealer. However, the hybrid bug set in and has spawned into a full EV, of which for any meaningful distance there is only one player. Tesla. Many a conversation with my dealer over the last couple of years about Lexus, their hydrogen blind alley (IMO) and whether they would enter the EV market anytime soon. They haven't really, and neither has anyone else at this point in time, so I've taken the plunge and am now the owner of a Tesla Model S 60D. This is a Lexus forum, and I hope the mods (Colin you've been a font of all knowledge) have no objection to this post and a couple of pics. All I will say is that the car is incredible and the strides Tesla have made over the last 2 or 3 years are amazing. I really do hope other manufacturers pick up the gauntlet over the next few years. Quite clearly I am enthusiastic and happy to respond to questions or points if asked and allowed. I wish you and Lexus all the very best and thanks to those who have helped make my years of Lexus ownership very happy ones. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Have you spoken to the dealer to see if you can switch to the F Sport, even if it hasn't got the wheels you want? I think I'd pay the £2k rather than have a car that you are so clearly unhappy with. If you haven't taken delivery I don't think the PCP will have started so you could withdraw without penalty in that respect. Given your stated obsession for 'good tech' I'm staggered you got as far as buying it given how much is, for you, wrong. Hope you get a resolution that works for you.

Oh dear Geoff, what a shame. Haven't you just had a dash cam fitted? Would that have picked it up if the individual hadn't owned up? I'm no expert but that looks too much for a cosmetic repair and they'll probably want to take the bumper off to check for damage behind, that sensor looks like it's had a bash. Going on what my new bumper was for my NX, I'll say £1500 minimum.

My IS300h was Sonic T and it is a brilliant colour IMO. It really catches the light and takes on different hues. I wouldn't describe it as looking "gold" at all. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Historically I think you could negotiate between the dealerships but I think latterly they are all working off a fixed price menu. I believe there's a discount on the parts too but I haven't looked into it for 18 months or so. I have had a refund on mine as I'm selling the car before all the services have fallen due.

I looked at ALA and they couldn't match car2cover, but weren't too far out. Agree re the rip off, Gap is something where I can't see any benefit with sticking to the manufacturers offering, it is what it is.

I've been looking into Gap and found www.car2cover.co.uk very good. Worth checking your motor insurance policy too. Some have a "new for old" clause for the first 12 months, so you can buy the Gap cover but have the start date a year forward. You do have to be careful with the wording of your motor policy though, in most cases the replacement car has to be in the UK or deliverable within 21 days - not always possible. If it's not then you may find it's back to market value or invoice whichever is lower. I've decided to buy Gap that gives me a specified amount rather than linked to invoice or purchase price. vehicle replacement cover I think is the term used. I ordered my new car (not a Lexus unfortunately) at the end of Oct and mainly due to currency weakness the price has increased by £10k. By buying monetary cover I protect against further increases. Hope this helps.

Is there any way the car can be registered early, or does it have to physically be in the country. I imagine there are quite a few of these types of situations up and down the land at the moment. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Is there any way the car can be registered early, or does it have to physically be in the country. I imagine there are quite a few of these types of situations up and down the land at the moment. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I'm beginning to feel left out! Although they do know I'm coming out of it end of next month so maybe they haven't bothered writing to me. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Hmm haven't had or paid attention to that. The letter says "..due to the improper programming of the brake control module, there is a possibility that the parking brake may not be set automatically when the system is deactivated under certain conditions. If this occurs, and the transmission is left in a gear other than Park, the vehicle could creep forward or backward increasing the risk of crash." Whatever that means. To me it means the automatic parking brake is not coming on, and unless you have the car in Park it'll roll down the hill. [emoji15] Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk