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Did you remember to put the clocks forward?

How many?

1-my watch

2-wifes watch

3-Living room

4-kitchen

5-study

6-wifes Merc

7-bedroom

8-mobile phone

9-wifes mobile

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i think the government are thinking about trialling for 3 years to leave the clocks as they are for winter i.e. keep it on summertime.

About time. The war that started it ended a while ago...and I don't think the farmers need the extra time anymore :D

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i think the government are thinking about trialling for 3 years to leave the clocks as they are for winter i.e. keep it on summertime.

About time. The war that started it ended a while ago...and I don't think the farmers need the extra time anymore :D

You wouldn't be saying that if you lived in Scotland and your kids had to walk to school in the dark.

I remember they tried it when I was in Junior School, it didn't get light till about 09:30 and I'm from just north of Glasgow, must have been a lot later in the far north. Went back to normal the next year because of an increase in accidents in the morning IIRC.

Anyway what's the problem with changing the clocks most countries do it.

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i think the government are thinking about trialling for 3 years to leave the clocks as they are for winter i.e. keep it on summertime.

About time. The war that started it ended a while ago...and I don't think the farmers need the extra time anymore :D

You wouldn't be saying that if you lived in Scotland and your kids had to walk to school in the dark.

I remember they tried it when I was in Junior School, it didn't get light till about 09:30 and I'm from just north of Glasgow, must have been a lot later in the far north. Went back to normal the next year because of an increase in accidents in the morning IIRC.

Anyway what's the problem with changing the clocks most countries do it.

A) Change the school times in Scotland :blink:

or

B) Change the clocks by Half an hours once and leave them be...As I get older I struggle get out of bed an hour early for 6 months of the year... :duh:

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A) Change the school times in Scotland :blink:

or

B) Change the clocks by Half an hours once and leave them be...As I get older I struggle get out of bed an hour early for 6 months of the year... :duh:

Don't work that way, what Lord Tanlaw proposes is Single/Double Summer Time (SDST), otherwise know as Central European Time. Guess SDST is less provacative than lets join the rest of Europe :D

So the clock change will still happen just that we will have Summer Time in the winter and Double Summer Time in the summer :duh:

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i think the government are thinking about trialling for 3 years to leave the clocks as they are for winter i.e. keep it on summertime.

About time. The war that started it ended a while ago...and I don't think the farmers need the extra time anymore :D

That i never knew. Can someone please elaborate? :blink:

I always presumed it was down to daylight changes during the year.

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The form of governmental tampering has generally been the institution of Summer Time, advancing the legal time by one hour during the summer months in order to promote greater efficiency in the use of the daylight hours and of artificial lighting; originally introduced as a wartime measure in 1916, this has been continued through peacetime as well, with occasional variations such as double summer time (advancing the clocks by a second hour for part of the summer) in World War 2—the government files on which in the Public Record Office (now National Archives) having, when the closure period was first set (probably late 1960s), been deemed so sensitive as to merit a closure period of 100 years—and the experiment with British Standard Time from 1968 to 1972, by which the time was advanced by one hour from GMT throughout the year. In addition, the precise start and end dates and times for Summer Time have been the subject of a great many individual orders detailed below. Adjusting the clocks has been an extremely effective way of really changing the times at which most people work (as measured on a uniform time scale), while giving the misleading impression that they are not changing the times at which they work, but rather an act of government has changed the times at which the sun rises and sets. (In February 2000 I requested a review of the extended closure period of the World War 2 summer time records, and in May the Home Office concluded that they could now be opened to the public.)

Every so often, someone tries again to institute the keeping in the UK of a time one hour ahead of GMT in winter, and two hours ahead in summer. Apart from arguments concerning notional convenience in dealing with Europe, the arguments for this seek lighter evenings (say, after work), the arguments against lighter mornings (say, for children going to school); and either side may quote statistics on accident rates that suit its cause. My personal view is that we should do away with the twice annual changing of clocks and maintain UTC as legal time for the whole year. Those people wishing for lighter evenings could arrange with their employers to start and finish work earlier—with changes in working practices, this type of arrangement becomes increasingly practicable—without causing everyone’s hours to change as they would by default under a change of the legal time. People for whom dark mornings would be a problem need not go to earlier hours. If felt necessary for energy efficiency, improvements in road safety, or any other reason, it would be possible for governments to try to generally encourage changes in hours; and if needed the clocks could still be fiddled in wartime. In peacetime I would consider the value of the honesty of being clear that the aim is to change working times, rather than hiding it behind changes of clocks, to out-weigh the advantages that may arise from such changes.

The strongest argument for doing away with Summer Time might however be that it could help deal with certain misconceptions that changes to the clocks can create “extra daylight”. Some years ago this idea came up in a Private Member’s Bill, the British Time (Extra Daylight) Bill of 1995–6 introduced by John Butterfill MP. While this attempt failed, it appeared that the idea that politicians could create extra daylight by legislating for it was unfortunately widespread.

While I believe that Summer Time should be done away with, the study of how politicians have managed to fiddle with such a simple matter (simple legally, not technically) as how to define the time of day has turned out to be fascinating, showing how governments can make such a mess of a simple matter, with over seventy relevant pieces of legislation in a little over a century, along with the oddities of the incompleteness of preservation of the record of published twentieth century secondary legislation.

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