Jae 2008

[yemgi]

The new venue looks cool :)

I will be there, it seems closer than Peterborough

[w481ggc]

I've been there befor a long time ago , it's perfect for jae 8 , if the weather is good it will be the best ever , and it's on the beach :D

[Chris.S]

We're not going have the sillyness this year of waking people up in the middle of the night are we and the cling film stupidity ?

[DJ Wozza]

Not unless I turn up at 5am and Aido wants a sound sytem demonstration

[Monster-Mat]

They have big events there throughout the year, and dont appear to have any problems.

Lets all try and be positive about this event, pull together and make it a Jae to remember, it will only be as good as we make it, and we can make it a good event.

Also JAE will be held here for the next 3 years, so anything we learn from this year, can be applied next year.

Saying its too far is not an excuse, especially when we have our EURO members who travel hundreds of miles every year to join us at JAE.

Will the LOC stand be organised this year ?

I ask as unlike other club stands where there is some organisation LOC's is a glorified car park.

I suggest a committee is set up poste haste to try and get a stand worthy of the marque

I propose Mr Newsome as chairperson. I'll offer my feeble services as janitor............if we do this with prescribed areas of responsibility we could end up with something special

We, the members of the moderating/management team have been discussing items and ideas since last years JAE.

The plan is, as you say, to have it better organised, and not just a car park, but some of the ideas we had which needed to be organised, had to take a back seat until we new dates and venue.

OK..............with respect to you and the others John............every year I've gone (from 2004) has had big claims but ended up a shambles............

could have helped then.....

the biggest problem we have always had is people turning up, ditching there cars and not returning till much later...then getting in there cars and driving off.

meaning any pre planned parking arangement always goes tits up.

second problem is attitude, there seems to have been in the past few years an attitude of "i dont need to do something.....im just going to sit here with the 2 or 3 members i know"

meaning that those that go to help run it, end up, actually having to do everything, soon getting peeved at having to run around......and eventually want to sit down and enjoy it themself

there really isnt any great method to running it, if everyone mucks in .....unfortunatley they dont

turn up, park in an organised manner, and have fun, sounds simple...its not.

im supprised you have found them a shambles dave...and before now never said anything, or offered to help and assist in someway..maybe your thrusting abilities will make it run like clockwork this year.

im not sure i will make it this year, as i will either be in Afganistan or Iraq, should be ok though, there will be less hostility in either of those places

I have said stuff............a lot of stuff

In 2005 while you were comotose in your sleeping bag myself and ahmet organised the stand due to nothing being sorted out

2004 was similair with people asking where to pitch tents no guidance being given............then AFTER tents erected being told told to move them by you

2006 i can't comment on as I had my own stand

2007 was the same as 2005 in cars were allowed to park wherever due to no proper organisation.

Not sure what you mean by hostility I'm just saying what the majority of LOCers feel..........

I have offered to assist in the past and have offered any assistance I can give for 2008 to barrie earlier today.

If you want me to sort 2008 out it will be done

If you do end up in either theatre of war I hope you get back safely BTW

yes im such a bad person for asking tents that were erected all over the place to be organised (considering the rules for jae are tents down at 9am....)it takes more than one...but hey ho i got minimal help,...oh dear am i not allowed to sleep after a drink...like everyone else, if you have things you want to say, put it in pm, dont act the saviour, The general attitude the past several years has been one of not really wanting to get involved.....or is that my fault aswell, all help is appreciated but the help as usual was from ther same few people.......shame your concernes were not more constructive at the time. i am intrested why you feel you need to hump all the failings on my shoulders, but as said hey ho, im not being drawn into a tit for tat over past JAE, i could say that before a certain point, there was never any issues with any of the JAE events, infact all events prior to east of england

just to clarify, a few points,.....people complain where they were parked, were the tents were pitched,and to pacify most, people were asked to move, at which point others moaned.... and with 2007, everything had to be moved, because the LOC pitch was under water, but, of course you knew this, otherwise you wouldnt try to blame me, for the parking, of which mostly again, people just turned up, left there car and disapeared

the TOC stands come across as well planned, because everyone gets involved, and dont assume 1 or 2 people will do everything for them, everyone does something to ensure a good event, plus they have had the Toyota Hospitality stuff there, we had the Lexus trailers for a few years again untill East of england showground intervened (TOC themeselfs have also had there moments with events and the lack luter assistance of its members, but unlike on LOC, TOC get on with it)

hope you do a much better job, can i ask, why after a single comment, "could have helped then....." you have felt the need to try and make me look a ******

as i said, if you have list of concerns, please Pm me, you obviously have alot of issues you would like to point out

[Monster-Mat]

if i am not in Afgan or iraq then ill be traveling up from Bath area

cool. keep in touch and we'll see. if you are away then best of British hun x

thanks very much, looks like i will be away from june/july for 2 months...TBC