Quick Question

[Hando]

ok - I'm finally getting the hang of the Klasse SG. (Apply an almost invisible amount, and leave to cure for at least 24hrs - thanks Mr. McNally)

I'm just about to give 'er another wash and apply second layer, question is: do I have to leave second layer to cure or can I pop a finishing layer of P21s on top straight away?

thanks all

h

(PS - typical - I only have to THINK about washing the car and it starts to rain... )

[Mr Morse]

If it's of any help, I gave the final sealant layer 12 hrs to cure before waxing. Looked excellent!

[Hando]

If it's of any help, I gave the final sealant layer 12 hrs to cure before waxing. Looked excellent!

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Cheers! Yup - that's great help. Figured - can't rush these things...

Saw the shots of Black Betty after you'd given her the Klasse treatment - and she did indeed look great. Black cars just love this Klasse stuff - after the AIO and one SG layer mine's already looking liquid. B)

h

[Matthew_McNally]

I'm just about to give 'er another wash and apply second layer, question is: do I have to leave second layer to cure or can I pop a finishing layer of P21s on top straight away?

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always leave it to bond ;)

24 hours if you can.

[Niraj]

always leave it to bond ;)

24 hours if you can.

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didn't read the first post, and thought we were talking about Mr 007! lol.

Bond, James Bond! lol

[Adie]

After putting on the All In One. I put five layers of Sealant Glaze on. Leaving it a week each time. Now i'm layering on top of that with the P21S Carnuba wax. Going to layer this each week, about 3 / 4 layers. Also i use the Sonus Carnuba Spritz after waxing. The wet look and shine are amazing B)

Also you can wax on sealant glaze but not put sealant glaze on wax :winky:

[Hando]

After putting on the All In One. I put five layers of Sealant Glaze on. Leaving it a week each time. Now i'm layering on top of that with the P21S Carnuba wax. Going to layer this each week, about 3 / 4 layers. Also i use the Sonus Carnuba Spritz after waxing. The wet look and shine are amazing B)

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cor! that IS going to look shiny. Think that's the route I'll take then (well maybe only 3 layers SG and 2 P21S)

thanks for the advice all :)

h

PS - LOVE the image of Mr McNally getting James Bond to wax his Lexus - now that's classy! ;)

[terdancam]

After putting on the All In One. I put five layers of Sealant Glaze on. Leaving it a week each time. Now i'm layering on top of that with the P21S Carnuba wax. Going to layer this each week, about 3 / 4 layers. Also i use the Sonus Carnuba Spritz after waxing. The wet look and shine are amazing B)

Also you can wax on sealant glaze but not put sealant glaze on wax :winky:

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Good lord, are you serious?

Either your motor now weighs 5 tons, or it is so aerodynamically slippery wind just does not get a purchase?

Seriously though, i assume you wash the car before every sealant application with a gentle shampoo? And what happens if you get a scratch, do you have to build it up again?

I would never have the patience to do all that........ :duh:

[Gord]

Just spent 2hours doing mine tonight :D wow

[Adie]

After putting on the All In One. I put five layers of Sealant Glaze on. Leaving it a week each time. Now i'm layering on top of that with the P21S Carnuba wax. Going to layer this each week, about 3 / 4 layers. Also i use the Sonus Carnuba Spritz after waxing. The wet look and shine are amazing B)

Also you can wax on sealant glaze but not put sealant glaze on wax :winky:

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Good lord, are you serious?

Either your motor now weighs 5 tons, or it is so aerodynamically slippery wind just does not get a purchase?

Seriously though, i assume you wash the car before every sealant application with a gentle shampoo? And what happens if you get a scratch, do you have to build it up again?

I would never have the patience to do all that........ :duh:

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Yes mate, wash with the Sonus gloss shampoo ( i think its called ).

Its worth the hard work because then for the next 4 / 5 months just wash/dry then spray with the spritz and wipe off. Looks just as good as when it was first put on :D

[Matthew_McNally]

After putting on the All In One. I put five layers of Sealant Glaze on. Leaving it a week each time. Now i'm layering on top of that with the P21S Carnuba wax. Going to layer this each week, about 3 / 4 layers. Also i use the Sonus Carnuba Spritz after waxing. The wet look and shine are amazing B)

Also you can wax on sealant glaze but not put sealant glaze on wax :winky:

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Good lord, are you serious?

Either your motor now weighs 5 tons, or it is so aerodynamically slippery wind just does not get a purchase?

Seriously though, i assume you wash the car before every sealant application with a gentle shampoo? And what happens if you get a scratch, do you have to build it up again?

I would never have the patience to do all that........ :duh:

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pretty good idea.

not only will it look awesome B) - but it will be protected from airborne crap like acid rain, bird droppings etc - its an excellent sacrificial layer that protects the underlying paintwork.

not to mention - subsequent cleaning is very easy, and brings back a beautiful shine from a simple wash and dry.

getting a scratch would be a pain, as polishing / compounding it out would remove the glaze.

[terdancam]

In a whining tone: "but i don`t wanna spend all my time cleaning, waxing polishing my car"...................oops to late, i`m already washing it at least once a week, and people are beginning to stare.........

i`ll have to get some of that glaze and spritz stuff though, and probably some more Klasse aio as i find i`m using it to clean all the ruddy windows in the house, let alone the car!!!

i`m going to have to divide my time up between studying, kids, pc games, car, watching tv, surfing etc but i`m just plain running out of hours!!!!! :shutit:

[Matthew_McNally]

In a whining tone: "but i don`t wanna spend all my time cleaning, waxing polishing my car"...................oops to late, i`m already washing it at least once a week, and people are beginning to stare.........

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when you clean it once a week - spend an extra 45 minutes putting on a layer on SG.

apply it nice and thin - the merest whisper of a suggestion of product, and polish it off.

leave for a week to cure.

repeat.

you'll see a difference in two weeks - and will thank us after a month.

just

1 - do a bloody good clean first - clay, polish etc.

2 - dont wax until you are happy you dont want to apply any more glaze

3 - dont polish - as this will take you back to stage 1. A simple, gentle wash and dry is all that is needed

I love it - gives a beautiful depth of shine

[terdancam]

In a whining tone: "but i don`t wanna spend all my time cleaning, waxing polishing my car"...................oops to late, i`m already washing it at least once a week, and people are beginning to stare.........

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when you clean it once a week - spend an extra 45 minutes putting on a layer on SG.

apply it nice and thin - the merest whisper of a suggestion of product, and polish it off.

leave for a week to cure.

repeat.

you'll see a difference in two weeks - and will thank us after a month.

just

1 - do a bloody good clean first - clay, polish etc.

2 - dont wax until you are happy you dont want to apply any more glaze

3 - dont polish - as this will take you back to stage 1. A simple, gentle wash and dry is all that is needed

I love it - gives a beautiful depth of shine

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so you just leave the glaze on with nothing else, then drive around for a week, then give it another gentle wash, apply another layer of SG, drive around for a week (or 24hrs) etc, then go to the p21s stage?

Just checking---its complicated stuff this, worse than string theory :duh:

[Matthew_McNally]

so you just leave the glaze on with nothing else, then drive around for a week, then give it another gentle wash, apply another layer of SG, drive around  for a week (or 24hrs) etc, then go to the p21s stage?

Just checking---its complicated stuff this, worse than string theory :duh:

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no - wipe it right off.

you wont actually remove the product - just leave a very thin layer (think about it - it only needs to be one molecule thick to bond to the paintwork).

apply, wipe off - leave till next weekend.

gentle wash, apply - wipe off.

dead easy

[Matthew_McNally]

lots of information about Klasse products in the Lexus Car Care Centre for people who are not familiar with the range

[Hando]

lots of information about Klasse products in the Lexus Car Care Centre for people who are not familiar with the range

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My little nugget of advice for people using KSG for the first time: cut your nails! You WILL probably over-apply the first time, and you WILL probably have a nightmare of a time buffing it out (too much KSG left to haze is hell). Last thing you need is a long fingernail scrtaching through the buffing cloth.

h

[Matthew_McNally]

just dont leave it to haze.

apply it very thin - wipe off immediately and buff well.

[Hando]

just dont leave it to haze.

apply it very thin - wipe off immediately and buff well.

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I know that now - but on the first attempt the temptation is to think "Surely that little amount won't do anything." and "If I use this much per application, this bottle will live longer than I will!" - and before you know it you've over done it. Well, it was that way for me

Got it sussed now tho'

[Mr Morse]

just dont leave it to haze.

apply it very thin - wipe off immediately and buff well.

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I know that now - but on the first attempt the temptation is to think "Surely that little amount won't do anything." and "If I use this much per application, this bottle will live longer than I will!" - and before you know it you've over done it. Well, it was that way for me

Got it sussed now tho'

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I made the same mistake first time with the SG - applied too much and it just about killed me off trying to buff it up! :o

All you need is a drop on each corner of your foam pad and one in the middle. You shouldn't even see it when applying it to the bodywork. I couldn't fathom out why it was soooooooo hard to do! But a phone call to Matt sorted me out and the results are amazing! Next time I do it I'll leave longer between each coat of SG, 24hrs minimum.

[Adie]

@ Matt

Is it best to wipe the wax off with a micrfibre cloth or concours buffing towel?

[Matthew_McNally]

@ Matt

Is it best to wipe the wax off with a micrfibre cloth or concours buffing towel?

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I would use a microfiber one to remove it - and save the concours for that final buffing stage, when you are not actually removing product, just bringing up the shine B)

[Matthew_McNally]

Just spent 2hours doing mine tonight  :D wow 

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gotta love it - haven't you?

thats only two layers - still building mine up.

[Colin P]

I just ordered the litre bottles of aio and sg to go along with the pc, sonus and pinnacle wax. Found this a good read

klasse application

[Adie]

I just ordered the litre bottles of aio and sg to go along with the pc, sonus and pinnacle wax. Found this a good read

klasse application

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Didnt know you could put the AIO on back and side windows. Great products and looks even better with a few layers of wax on top of all the SG B)