Harrier Man

Several people have quoted the actual miles achieved against the predicted miles. This made me curious. Take a round trip of 94 miles that I did on Saturday (and regularly do); this comprised of mostly 'A' road, some dual carriageway and going through 3 towns, traffic was fairly light. The predicted EV range was 47.5 miles (76.4km) in the app; the dash display indicated 75km range (45.6 miles) so I knew that I wasn't going to complete my journey on electric alone. I don't want to be using the engine in town for reasons of economy and pollution so once I hit a steady speed on the 'A' road, I switch to engine running and will manage this swapping between EV and HV mode throughout the journey. Hence, I couldn't state how many actual miles I covered on EV to compare against the estimate. I couldn't even make a sensible guess because if I leave the car in HV, when I hit the first set of traffic lights in town, the car cleverly slips into battery mode, returning itself to engine mode when I pick up speed after negotiating all the lights and roundabouts. I arrived home with a mile of predicted EV range on the app (the car showed zero) so my management was pretty well spot on and I think I optimised the mpg from the engine by operating it mainly in the steady speed sections of road. Thoughts? Comments?

I meant to add that 47.0 miles is 75.6km and 44.4 miles is 71.5km. 🙂

SUMMARY TO DATE Thank you to everybody that has contributed to this thread; that's 16 owners who have seen their stats improve as the weather has got warmer and their cars have put on more miles. The overall average from all the inputs from the 24 January to 11 June has been 47.0 without A/C and 44.4 with A/C. Due to the way in which I set up the spreadsheet, it is difficult to be precise about the benefits but generally we are all getting more miles from out batteries than in the winter but the difference is not as great as I imagined. I regard this as a good thing because there are many other makes and models that take big hits in their electric range when the cold weather hits. Lexus seem to be managing this quite well. I also notice that those who have been regularly reporting for a while and, therefore, are presumably uses their vehicles most days, are getting better results than people who, say, charge their vehicle once or twice a week. The Doctor seems to be a special case as his figures have always been much higher than everyone else. Either he has bigger batteries than the rest of us or his high mileage (he recently reported reaching 20,000 miles in nearly a year of motoring) is giving significant benefit. I am aware that I haven't between entirely consistent in my approach to these summaries; for example, the average above is an average of all inputs but in the past I have excluded the highest and lowest figures when calculating the averages. If anyone has any particular questions that they think the stats might answer, please ask. I will probably stop adding the stats to my spreadsheet soon but I encourage you to keep posting your stats as I think it is interesting to many of us to compare our car's own performance with others.

Or maybe the plate to reduce CANbus thefts? Either would be good; both even better still.

At least you have someone to blame. When I see braking that is too harsh and acceleration that is too fierce, there is only one person that I can blame and I have to see him in the mirror to look him in the eye!

Same here Paul. It's bewildering. If it was the servers, as suggested by Steve, I would have thought everyone would have been affected equally. The not knowing, uncertaint and, reduced confidence does dent the brand image as mentioned by Ken. Let's hope that along with the improving delivery dates, that seem to be coming through, that lexus is at last starting to get on top of things.

I don't recognise this description of Waze at all John. As David says, ads are not an issue. When it was introduced, there was nothing to touch it because the information displayed on the maps was very up-to-date, fed by other Waze users who would mark accidents, traffic jams, speed cameras, pot holes, etc as they passed them (not the driver but their passenger for safety reasons). This information was fed to the Waze servers which, after certain thresholds were reached, would pass the information back to other Waze users. Near real-time information of hazards ahead. This was heavy on phone battery use and data plans (which were not as generous as they are now) and the information was only as good as other users connected to the app in the area at the time. Nonetheless, together with some of the most current mapping, Waze was brilliant and a market leading vehicle navigation app. Google bought Waze a few years ago, poached the best software engineers and took some of the ideas and technology, which it has incorporated into the current version of google maps. Hence, the difference between the two is not as great as it once was but many are still loyal to Waze and it is still being updated. In rural areas or where there are few other Waze users, its value diminishes markedly so, personally, I have switched to google maps but I still rate Waze highly and recommend others to try and compare it with whatever their car provides.

I don't think it was just the old days. I think it depends on the policy of the manufacturers/dealerships. I was initially told that I couldn't pick my number but, after pushing my dealer, I was told that I would be offered a choice. With my last car, bought through MacRae & *****, I was shown a sheet of registration numbers that had been allocated to them and I picked one from the list. Easy, and it is such a small thing, but it made me feel that this second biggest purchase of my life was special and individual to me. Creating that sort of feeling is gold to a salesperson so to deny the choice of registration to a customer is very short-sighted.

From previous threads, some owners have found the kick sensor a bit fickle even without a towbar; including me. However, I found 'kicking' in and out rather than side-to-side is more effective and reliable. Whether this is still the case when a towbar is fitted and the sensor relocated, I don't know but my experience might help.

Don't worry Nicolas, I work in km too so I'm always converting between 5he 2 systems. 🙂

I echo Ken R's comments and, as mentioned by Kevin, make sure it is clipped in, not just resting on the rear location points.

I'm hoping that the 4 years free means 4 year's worth of updates! On the current rate of upgrades, which have been distinctly lacking, my 4 year's worth should last at least 10 years!

SUMMARY SO FAR Overall average to date is 46.3 miles without A/C and 43.7 with the A/C. This excludes the highest and lowest figure in each category to reduce the distorting affect of the 'extremes'. The most noticeable differences is between those who have started reporting recently (I assume they received their vehicles more recently) and those who who have had their vehicles longer. In particular, Ken has consistently been achieving over 50miles since mid-April (no A/C) and has made the most contributions; suggesting he is regularly cycling the battery. Those with the fewest contributions may still be using their cars a lot and not reporting results but as their figures are generally below 45 miles, I'm guessing that their batteries are not getting cycled as often or as deeply as Ken is doing. Personally, I have yet to crack the magic 50 (my best is 47.7). It was creeping up nicely through April but then dropped by nearly 2 miles when we came into May. However, my last 3 charges have all seen less than a half mile difference between the with and without A/C figures. This is much smaller than others are achieving but whether it is down to environmental conditions or my reluctance to turn the heating on, I'm not sure! Overall, it does seem that what we expected is true, namely that our cars, like us, prefer the warmer weather.

Strava hides the start and end location by about 50m but I don't believe it is the case with Lexus. My location is invariably within a few metres. The address is wrong but that's just because of the way my drive and the surrounding estate are laid out. If your location is always out by a similar amount in a similar direction, try recentring it as follows: Go into Settings (in the car) and select 'Navigation', 'Other' and then 'Position/Direction'; does it show the position of your car accurately? If not you can move the map so that the correct position is shown (Press okay) and then do the same for Direction. Having reset the car's position, it would be interesting to know if your car then starts reporting the correct location more reliably.

I received my letter this morning and then watched the Toyota video on TSS3. After that, I've decided to wait until a time convenient to me to have the update done as a trip to the dealer is over 300 miles (although I have yet to try the new Aberdeen garage which would reduce this by about half). Is it just me or do others find these safety systems unnecessary and a pain? I drive my car with awareness and responsibility; I am quite capable of staying within my lane, not crashing into a car in front, maintaining a safe distance from the vehicle in front, and I have never mown down a pedestrian so if the front camera blanks out for 4 seconds whilst it reboots itself, should I worry? I'm not advocating that anyone ignores what Toyota/Lexus see as a safety issue but, for me, it is not a strong enough reason to make a 300+ mile round trip.

I've got the dark rose interior and would say that is a good description. It is not a 'bright red' and I really like it. Pictures do vary, as do the monitors they are viewed on, so I understand your concern. If there is any chance of viewing one at a dealer or elsewhere, that is by far the best way to judge if you will be happy with your choice.

The Lexus portal, accessed through a Web browser, is similar to the app but is different. In my experience, it is better to set things up in the portal in the first instance.

My post should have read two-way screwdriver. You can pull out and reverse the metal part to give you a Phillip's screwdriver.

As others have mentioned, you're not missing anything yet. There is an android app called Navibridge that scores 4.2 and is supposed to send a destination/route from your favourite mapping app to your car navigation unit. I don't know if the NX is one of the vehicles supported but it might be worth a look.

All I got was a two-screwdriver. No spanners, no torch, not even a jack!

My app updated last week. I haven't noticed any differences but I'm now at version 4.16.0

As I read it, the standard NX350H FWD will come with 'Black Tahara with silver inlay'. The premium pack says '13 extras' but I see icons for only 11 (not 10) and an option to have the Dark Rose Tahara with Silver Inlay. Therefore, I think it disingenuous and misleading of Lexus to say '13 extras'. With the AWD model it is even worse as the £8,050 Premium Plus Pack says '32 extras' but, in reality, four of those are interior trim options. Since you can have only one interior, the truth is that you get 28 extras + one enhanced 'smooth leather' trim.

I would ask again. Initially I was told by my (junior) salesman that he didn't think he could get this information but after pointing out that many on this forum had been given the ship by their dealer, he went away to check and came back a couple of days later with the ship name. Meanwhile, I looked up all the ships out of Nagoya for my 'Build Complete' date (the car can sit in the compound for several days after it has actually rolled off the production line; the app only changes from 'Build started' when the vehicle is on the ship). A long list of 204 vessels that I then whittled down to 12 that were listed as vehicle carriers. Some were quickly eliminated as I plotted their progress because they were going in the wrong direction, leaving 2 or 3 to follow. I then got the information from the dealer; which was just as well as it wasn't one of the ships I was tracking! A lot of detective work involved and I obviously failed the final exam (because 'my' ship was listed as a cargo carrier and I had erroneously eliminated it when I initially whittled the list down) but it was an interesting exercise/puzzle (if you like that sort of thing).

Mine reached the dealer 17 days after the ship docked. As this was in August last year, I had told them there was no rush as I would be waiting until 1st September to pick it up but I knew other customers were desperate to pick up their car as soon as possible. 2-3 weeks seemed the norm around that time.

You might be right but some features take a little time to percolate through the system and to show up. How long has it been since you added your vehicle? As I have my car, I no longer have the 'track my order' option but I don't remember having any trouble finding it. My beef was with the misleading wording Lexus uses during the process ( I think I've made a couple of posts on this, one on 25th February).