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1 hour ago, Boomer54 said:

It is unless you can see the joke. It was not posted for Cognitive Psychologists.

Is there one amongst us do you think ?

is that a piccy of Ursula  Von der  Leyen ….. the EU lady ? 

Malc 

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24 minutes ago, Malc1 said:

Is there one amongst us do you think ?

is that a piccy of Ursula  Von der  Leyen ….. the EU lady ? 

Malc 

Amongst a number of other things ,yes. I'll have you know that is my wife ,outraged expression...liar !

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On 10/22/2023 at 5:22 PM, Malc1 said:

WOT  ...  I'm,  and so should you too, be  living every day as if it's my First ......... knowing I just haven't the energy for lots of " interesting " stuff I used to do as a lad, even a couple of years ago now  ..  the only " strange " and unwelcome thing is this feeling of knowing the energy and physical levels don't match up to my mind " wanting " to do stuff 

That's the strange part of modern day life .....  I could still just about press buttons A and B in the Red Telephone Box if they still had them eh !

Malc

This is how I feel right now. I just turned 60 last wkend

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On 10/22/2023 at 8:20 PM, Malc1 said:

……. when the coal man delivered sacks of coal on his wagon and tipped the sacks into the grille by the front door to fill the Coal Cellar 

AND the Rag & Bone man toured the streets ( of south London anyway ) on his horse drawn cart calling for “ any old iron “

Not seen any of those for decades !

Malc  

I've forgot about the rag and bone man...

 

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On 11/6/2023 at 12:03 PM, GMB said:

I've in a club like that. It's called sons of Gout. I'm a martyr to it. Not allowed ibuprofen Doc says it will destroy my remaining kidney function....... What??

Couldn't ride the bike because I could not change gear with a swollen foot.

Note to Lexus owners - Motorbikes have a foot gearchange. Lexus let their computer decide.

Lexus owners have a foot hand brake... never had this before hard to get used to... can't control the handbrake turns the same anymore lol...

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On 11/5/2023 at 8:48 PM, Malc1 said:

Is this a Trump-ety Trump Trump scenario opening here ……. I know best and send me your money ……. after all you are a Follower and Click Click Click YOU WILL send me lots of $$$$  ……. Bless You my son 😇……. and you WILL VOTE FOR ME 

………. quack quack quack it’s Donald speaking 😱

Malc 

( sorry,  I’m totally non-political ) 

 

Wake up and smell the Coffee, Malc.

See the respected Dr John’s interview with a deeply concerned International Lawyer.

I’ll be interested to read Bluemarlin view on the content?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ag-1AkhWNk

For evil to succeed it only takes for good men to do nothing. 

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1 minute ago, runsgrateasanut said:

See the respected Dr John’s interview with a deeply concerned International Lawyer.

this seems to have been removed !

Malc

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Sorry it was not available nor was the previous link to the discussion between Dr John Campbell and the Swiss Lawyer.

Perhaps this shortie will be viewable and you may get the gist of what is being deliberately withheld as info to the public.

This link is maybe the full interview - if it shows?

 

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6 hours ago, runsgrateasanut said:

Wake up and smell the Coffee, Malc.

See the respected Dr John’s interview with a deeply concerned International Lawyer.

I’ll be interested to read Bluemarlin view on the content?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ag-1AkhWNk

For evil to succeed it only takes for good men to do nothing. 

I'll be honest and start by saying that I'm not up on matters concerning the WHO, health regulations amendments and pandemic response measures but, as you asked, I've had a brief look at the video and read up a little, so will give my first impressions.

Please note that to some extent I'm playing devil's advocate, for the sole purpose of airing any potential counter arguments to the concerns expresed, without being able to address the veracity of any claims made by either side.

Firstly I'll say that it makes perfect sense to have some form of internationally co-ordinated strategy for any future pandemic, and associated health regulations. For better or worse, the WHO would seem to be the logical body to lead that. The key issue therefore is do we trust the WHO and, if not why not, and what do we do about that?

The video quite rightly points out the fears and potential risks of trusting such a body, but provides little in the way of substance for its suggestion that deliberate harm would be caused. Of course it's possible that unintentional harm might occur through mistakes being made, which is indeed a valid concern. However, it fails to balance that concern against the harm that might be caused by not having an agreed co-ordinated stategy.

It also claims that we have no democratic say over the proposals, and that is not strictly speaking true. We have as much democratic control as we do for most other things, in that the democratically elected goverments of each member state have to agree to any such proposals.   

Further, it seems that the WHO is largely a body of co-ordination, and that any regulations made are negotiated and ratified by sovereign nations. From the little I've read, it appears that whilst the WHO can make recommendations, it has no power to enforce them on member states, or override the decision-making authority of national governments.

Ultimately then it seems, like many such things, there's enough complexity, misunderstanding and misrepresentation for people to read into it whatever they like. If you're inclined to believe that the WHO are plotting against us, you can cherry pick things that appear to support that. Equally though, you can take the view that the intentions are well meaning, whilst accepting that any such large venture might be vulnerable to mistakes or missteps.

Personally I'm inclined to the latter view, in the absence of any evidence to the contrary, and so the biggest question I'd ask of those who think it's simply a nefarious way of exerting  power over us, is this. In the absence of a centralised body to help co-ordinate a global health strategy and future pandemic responses, what alternative would you suggest?

Like I said at the beginning, I'm not fully read up on it all, and so all I'm able to offer is an alternative perspective, which may or not have merit, due to my lack of knowledge of this specific subject. My comments therefore are largely limited to the mechanics that are common to many conspiracy theories, which often try to misrepresent things, or seek to assign an intent based on the theorist's own fears, biases and assumptions, rather than substantive evidence.

I'll end though with a few links to fact checks that address some of the claims made about the health regulations and pandemic treaty proposals, which you can make of what you will.

https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/claims-of-a-who-globalist-takeover-are-out-of-this-world/

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(23)02018-4/fulltext

https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-conspiracy-theories-about-the-pandemic-treaty/a-65982226

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220608-conspiracy-theories-cloud-pandemic-treaty-push

https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/07/1138892

 

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54 minutes ago, Bluemarlin said:

I'll be honest and start by saying that I'm not up on matters concerning the WHO, health regulations amendments and pandemic response measures but, as you asked, I've had a brief look at the video and read up a little, so will give my first impressions.

Please note that to some extent I'm playing devil's advocate, for the sole purpose of airing any potential counter arguments to the concerns expresed, without being able to address the veracity of any claims made by either side.

Firstly I'll say that it makes perfect sense to have some form of internationally co-ordinated strategy for any future pandemic, and associated health regulations. For better or worse, the WHO would seem to be the logical body to lead that. The key issue therefore is do we trust the WHO and, if not why not, and what do we do about that?

The video quite rightly points out the fears and potential risks of trusting such a body, but provides little in the way of substance for its suggestion that deliberate harm would be caused. Of course it's possible that unintentional harm might occur through mistakes being made, which is indeed a valid concern. However, it fails to balance that concern against the harm that might be caused by not having an agreed co-ordinated stategy.

It also claims that we have no democratic say over the proposals, and that is not strictly speaking true. We have as much democratic control as we do for most other things, in that the democratically elected goverments of each member state have to agree to any such proposals.   

Further, it seems that the WHO is largely a body of co-ordination, and that any regulations made are negotiated and ratified by sovereign nations. From the little I've read, it appears that whilst the WHO can make recommendations, it has no power to enforce them on member states, or override the decision-making authority of national governments.

Ultimately then it seems, like many such things, there's enough complexity, misunderstanding and misrepresentation for people to read into it whatever they like. If you're inclined to believe that the WHO are plotting against us, you can cherry pick things that appear to support that. Equally though, you can take the view that the intentions are well meaning, whilst accepting that any such large venture might be vulnerable to mistakes or missteps.

Personally I'm inclined to the latter view, in the absence of any evidence to the contrary, and so the biggest question I'd ask of those who think it's simply a nefarious way of exerting  power over us, is this. In the absence of a centralised body to help co-ordinate a global health strategy and future pandemic responses, what alternative would you suggest?

Like I said at the beginning, I'm not fully read up on it all, and so all I'm able to offer is an alternative perspective, which may or not have merit, due to my lack of knowledge of this specific subject. My comments therefore are largely limited to the mechanics that are common to many conspiracy theories, which often try to misrepresent things, or seek to assign an intent based on the theorist's own fears, biases and assumptions, rather than substantive evidence.

I'll end though with a few links to fact checks that address some of the claims made about the health regulations and pandemic treaty proposals, which you can make of what you will.

https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/claims-of-a-who-globalist-takeover-are-out-of-this-world/

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(23)02018-4/fulltext

https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-conspiracy-theories-about-the-pandemic-treaty/a-65982226

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220608-conspiracy-theories-cloud-pandemic-treaty-push

https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/07/1138892

 

You're good. On that note what is your consultation fee for advising me on a strategy to persuade my wife to sanction my second SC430.

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19 minutes ago, Boomer54 said:

You're good. On that note what is your consultation fee for advising me on a strategy to persuade my wife to sanction my second SC430.

My default strategy for such things is to deal with the repercussions after the fact, rather than seek permission beforehand.

However, the effectiveness of such a strategy rests primarily on two key pieces of information that I'm not party to. The first being your wife's tolerance level, and the second being your pain threshold 🙂

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1 hour ago, Bluemarlin said:

I'll be honest and start by saying that I'm not up on matters concerning the WHO, health regulations amendments and pandemic response measures but, as you asked, I've had a brief look at the video and read up a little, so will give my first impressions.

Please note that to some extent I'm playing devil's advocate, for the sole purpose of airing any potential counter arguments to the concerns expresed, without being able to address the veracity of any claims made by either side.

Firstly I'll say that it makes perfect sense to have some form of internationally co-ordinated strategy for any future pandemic, and associated health regulations. For better or worse, the WHO would seem to be the logical body to lead that. The key issue therefore is do we trust the WHO and, if not why not, and what do we do about that?

The video quite rightly points out the fears and potential risks of trusting such a body, but provides little in the way of substance for its suggestion that deliberate harm would be caused. Of course it's possible that unintentional harm might occur through mistakes being made, which is indeed a valid concern. However, it fails to balance that concern against the harm that might be caused by not having an agreed co-ordinated stategy.

It also claims that we have no democratic say over the proposals, and that is not strictly speaking true. We have as much democratic control as we do for most other things, in that the democratically elected goverments of each member state have to agree to any such proposals.   

Further, it seems that the WHO is largely a body of co-ordination, and that any regulations made are negotiated and ratified by sovereign nations. From the little I've read, it appears that whilst the WHO can make recommendations, it has no power to enforce them on member states, or override the decision-making authority of national governments.

Ultimately then it seems, like many such things, there's enough complexity, misunderstanding and misrepresentation for people to read into it whatever they like. If you're inclined to believe that the WHO are plotting against us, you can cherry pick things that appear to support that. Equally though, you can take the view that the intentions are well meaning, whilst accepting that any such large venture might be vulnerable to mistakes or missteps.

Personally I'm inclined to the latter view, in the absence of any evidence to the contrary, and so the biggest question I'd ask of those who think it's simply a nefarious way of exerting  power over us, is this. In the absence of a centralised body to help co-ordinate a global health strategy and future pandemic responses, what alternative would you suggest?

Like I said at the beginning, I'm not fully read up on it all, and so all I'm able to offer is an alternative perspective, which may or not have merit, due to my lack of knowledge of this specific subject. My comments therefore are largely limited to the mechanics that are common to many conspiracy theories, which often try to misrepresent things, or seek to assign an intent based on the theorist's own fears, biases and assumptions, rather than substantive evidence.

I'll end though with a few links to fact checks that address some of the claims made about the health regulations and pandemic treaty proposals, which you can make of what you will.

https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/claims-of-a-who-globalist-takeover-are-out-of-this-world/

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(23)02018-4/fulltext

https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-conspiracy-theories-about-the-pandemic-treaty/a-65982226

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220608-conspiracy-theories-cloud-pandemic-treaty-push

https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/07/1138892

 

Did you make a coffee whilst reading and writing all that  ?

It's all above my pain threshold to understand methinks ! 😇

Malc

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