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The ones you mention are bought at auction, they've been used and abused and condition wise, they'll be pretty bad with poor repair jobs Lexus dealers tend to snap up the good models at auction or otherwise. There is one at Lexus Reading in your budget with 37k miles but it'll be in better condition. I'd be snapping that up if I were you, get them to put parking sensors in the deal and start at £17k. That way it may even be under budget if you haggle hard enough

Exactly right. If the sales were through the roof there would be no discounts at all. They're targeting the wrong demographic, the older folk. Problem is, older folk tend to have greater spending power so will go for either the XF or XJ. The one pictured is the top spec too and the proportions are really odd

LOL the A-class is far inferior than an IS300h. You made the right decision - the plastics in the A-class are awful!

Ive seen one, wasnt too impressed with the looks in all honesty. Seems 3-4 years old when parked next to an IS F-Sport I think its lacking cohesiveness - the front looks good, the rear is a mess and looks rather awkward. And of course, as my wife is looking for a car in this class and we have decided on the IS300h F-Sport, it was a shock to find out that Jaguar are still charging for keyless go, electrically folding mirrors, an electric steering column and parking sensors on the front. I think it suits Jaguar's old folk crowd, it looks like a car an older person would drive and of course, the diesels are nowhere near refined as an IS300h

Not an F Sport alloy. Seems to be a 2012 advance alloy wheel looking at the colour

Wife is getting one soon, shes 44 :) . But then, she is getting the F-Sport, I think trim does make a huge difference as to how the IS looks Im 47 - I drive an RX450h :P

Michelin's here too on my 450h. Superb tyres, very quiet and are M&S marked so same as the Pirelli's, just quieter and very few people have complaints about them compared to Pirelli tyres of which have inconsistencies ie some people say they are awesome and some people complain about blowouts and odd noises and wear etc

Yeah its a plastic protector which comes in the protection pack along with the rubber floor mats. It doesn't look great on white but you could get away with it on black. Problem is, I don't think it's necessary as the boot has a lip so you wouldn't be able to slide something in there anyway. Whereas, I have one on the RX, but it looks better on an SUV and actually needs to be there as the load lip is relatively flat

I think the main reason using a hand held phone in car is illegal is because your hands won't be ready to put straight onto the steering wheel unless you drop your phone if a hazard arises but even then, that's thinking time lost about dropping the phone With in car tech,you can move your hands straight from the controller to the steering wheel

extra 2 speakers with the premium nav too I've been told

Yep, keeps house insurance down and for peace of mind that some idiot won't try drilling the locks out lol

Very good point! After the rave reviews the Merc C-class got, I had a test drive. Its good, but as a package, its incomplete. The one i tested, C220 CDI AMG line, with the artico leather and standard sport suspension, not the air suspension that journalists get lol Bear in mind that my wife has an 04 C220 CDI so I sort of knew what to expect. The engine was worse, yes it had more power than her car and yes, fuel economy had improved over her car but the engine is so unrefined, its bordering on industrial. Ride quality was crap, I dont intend to spend £850 on air suspension to make it better, it should have been good in the first place. The IS300h Premier rides just as well as one on air suspension so I cant imagine how nice the ride on Luxury and 17" wheels are. Quality of the interior was great - but, it wasnt as good as its made out to be. Some of the materials in the IS feel superior especially the leather seats and the steering wheel. Not to mention that the offset driving position is an annoyance. MPG wasnt that great either. In town it does about 30mpg - same as my RX. And honestly, I think the IS would smoke it in a straight line when rolling. It has tonnes of torque but it has a tendency to cause the rear wheels to spin and runs out of puff. Even the gearbox was pretty jerky.

I don't think it is actual leather though. They don't feel like the leather in the RX, GS or the previous IS. What's odd is that the red interior is stated as being nuluxe in the US but leather over here. I highly doubt they're using 2 different materials

I live in Yorkshire mate lol. No chance I'll be getting almost 69mpg over here. Way too many hills, the engine has to run overtime going up lol.Besides, i only had it for a day!! Something I forgot to mention was the suspension on the IS. Its bloody good! A perfect balance between smoothness and handling, even with the 18" wheels. No word of a lie, the IS with 18" wheels and low profile tyres rides and handles better than my wife's Mercedes C220 CDI Elegance with 16" tyres and 215/55 tyres! That's some achievement.

Yeah it smelt pretty nice. Still had the new car smell but the car itself was a tip. it'd been given out for a test drive the day before, it'd had 2 wheels scraped pretty badly, a scratch in the rear corner, rubbish inside the cubbies and scratches all over the interior. The IS only has Nuluxe in the UK. It's only available with leather on the top grades in the US Anyhow, the fact that this is being discussed means the Nuluxe is very good, it'll fool anyone who doesn't know better

Car was serviced at Lexus Bradford - closer to me than Stockport is and under RRG group so I just used my RRG service plan. The keyring is from my RX which I put onto the IS keyring :) I think they've had a blunder with some of their ex-demos in all honesty. They're in specifications that no one really wants - ie the IS300h F-Sport in blue - it doesnt have leather lol. They dont have many F-Sport's in at all.

So, having given my RX450h F-Sport to my dealer for servicing and MOT, I was given a complimentary Lexus IS300h Premier to drive around. This was a fully loaded vehicle with blind spot monitor, the 15 speaker Mark Levinson Surround Sound system and the blind spot detection (whereby the car alerts you when reversing out of a parking space if a vehicle is approaching. First things first - the keys: I particularly like it - its soft touch plastic, akin to the material found on the upper door panels on the IS. It felt nice and solid in the hand but its small enough to be unobtrusive. If you're like me, and you like keys then its certainly a nice key fob. It seems to follow their design language too which was interesting. Now onto the looks - IMO its a lovely looking vehicle. It look classy, especially in the Premier spec with the 18" wheels on. I prefer the F-Sport as I think it is the best looking car in this segment with a cohesive design language from front to back (unlike the new Jaguar XE which looks brilliant from the front and rather dull from the back). Im especially fond of the side profile, it looks fast even when standing still and has a great coupe-esque look to it, one that simply trumps the new Mercedes C-Class (I think it looks like a Banana, no hate please) as well as the BMW 3 series which almost looks like any old car from the side. Now these are my opinions and I understand some of you may prefer the looks of either the Merc or the BMW so we can agree to disagree on that one if you prefer! :). In this exact spec though, I think the grill was slightly weird. It had horizontal slats on the top and then merged into a hexagonal type design underneath. Maybe it would have been better to just keep the horizontal slats all the way down? As for the lights - I thought they looked fine in person. Nike swoosh, arrows, call them what you wish - they look a bit different that's for sure. I particularly liked the finish on the wheels - they were rather shiny, almost chrome-like but they do look quite good! Paint finish (Arctic/Starfire pearl) was impeccable as is mostly the case with Lexus paint. No blemishes I could see bearing in mind this is a 6 month old demonstrator and no orange peel which is great if you're like me and hates wet sanding. Now onto the interior: No doubt about it - a lovely place to spend time. I'll talk about the seats first - superbly comfortable, no complaints in over 100 miles of driving and adjustability is great as they are full electric with lumbar support for the driver. They fit like a glove (im 6 ft 1) so I doubt most drivers would have a problem with it. In fact, they were so comfy, I didnt really want to get out. The driving position is great too, no awkward offset pedals or steering wheel, they were both bang on centre which I liked. The door panels were of good quality, a step above BMW and dare I say it Audi (Slightly unfair - due for a refresh). It is clear though that the Merc C-class is the benchmark in this segment but thats not to say that the Lexus IS is bad quality as its not - everything closed with a solid thud (doors are bloody heavy) and everything felt as it should, somewhat better than in a car of this price bracket. Now the leather had me fooled. It felt like the usual super soft Lexus leather. After a brief look in the brochure, it appears its actually faux leather, referred to as Nuluxe. Its similiar to Mercedes Artico but is softer and it wears better than real leather apparently. Of course, the car only had 6k miles on it so that's untested so far. Something slightly off about the interior was the grey headliner. There was no grey evident in the rest of the interior so I was slightly confused about why the headliner was grey, when the seats are black. The audio system was fine. The 15 speaker system excels in clarity but needs to be tweaked to get the best out of it. However, for an updated system with 800+W, it sounded worse than the 300W system in my RX which was slightly odd. I found that the sound quality was heavily dependent on the source and it tends to sound better if listening through the USB or through an IPOD rather than CD's. An issue I found was that the USB needs to be taken out and put back in every time you get in the car to ensure it is recognised, I dont know if this happens on all IS300h's or if a previous driver had done this (please let me know in the comments) The temperature gauges are a nice feature. They're a talking point but not really any easier than buttons or knobs. However, they were nice to touch Onto the driving experience: What can I say? Lexus has done a great job on this one. The handling was great on this particular Premier version, I can only imagine its better on an F-Sport. Turn in was crisp, it handled curves like a boss. You wouldn't be left wanting for handling, in fact, its a better handler than the 3 series (isnt it supposed to be the benchmark?) which in comparison feels a bit mushy. It certainly feels sportier than the C-class but handles about the same I reckon. Its miles ahead of the A4 but obviously, not totally fair as that's getting a refresh soon anyway. I cant comment on the Jaguar XE as I havent driven that one. Steering was slightly numb but it was very accurate and pretty surreal. It felt pretty sensitive to every input and having driven Lexus for a long time, I can say its probably their best steering setup yet (apart from the LFA of course). Brakes were strong too but dust like mad. I washed the loaner (im crazy I know) and wheels were already dirty by the time I had gone to the supermarket and back. Ok so the real talking point of this car - the hybrid powertrain. 2.5L inline four cylinder with electric motors - total system output, 223hp. 0-62mph 8.3s?!! What?! :egads: I was pretty disappointed when I read that....... :uh: ....but then I actually drove it. By no means does it feel slow or lethargic. Even in normal mode, the car goes pretty well and in-gear acceleration (aided by instant torque) was very enjoyable. Sport mode tightens the steering up a bit and improves throttle response while keeping revs slightly higher. It was a great car to drive, I thoroughly enjoyed it - certainly felt faster than the IS250 anyway and from a rolling start, it goes pretty well. Don't be fooled by the 0-62mph time, It doesnt mean much when it comes to hybrids! I had the car almost exclusively in Sport mode (just because) and pretty much milked it nearly all of the time. Result - 35.4mpg. I did however, see if I could get the 61 mpg claim. I failed, but managed 53.2mpg in normal mode with some dedication though! woohoo: So that is my review of the IS300h. If you're looking for a competent vehicle in this class I doubt you could go wrong with any of the vehicles mentioned, but if you want something different, or with a petrol engine then perhaps it could be the car for you? Its certainly worth a test drive anyway, and I liked it quite a lot that the Merc is being replaced later this year with an IS300h F-Sport :D Going to be having sleepless nights for a while I think.

Depends on if OP is referring to s*x or gender - both different things

Yeah that's the worst part of it! Id be concerned if I was taking the cayenne on a track but in day to day life at 30mph, there's not much difference at all. In fact, I feel like my RX is a better balance as it rides well and handles ok for such a car. The cayenne rides really rough but handles great....... at the limit which is difficult to reach in the UK

Yeah Porsche are seriously stingy on the options lol. It seems nowadays, if you get a car worth more money, you actually get less "value". I was never enticed by Porsche since their ride is usually like sitting on nails and in terms of day to day driving, I think the Cayenne is only 10% better for 50% extra money.

That cayenne hybrid will easily go way over £70K. Doesnt even come with privacy glass lol.And they don't give discounts no matter what. Not to mention they have crazy service prices. You basically pay for the badge. As for the GS, it's going to be refreshed soon with LED headlights standard on F SPORT models I love Lexus. Have had quite a few of the range including the previous and current RX. Can't wait for the new one in fact - especially in Sport guise. However, I've been running a Cayenne for the past few years now. OK it's a dirty diesel model but the servicing has been cheaper than the RX! Consumable items such as tyres and brakes have also been cheaper than when I was in the RX (I've now done just under 100k). The Cayenne is a very accomplished car and would certainly recommend it. Borrow one for a weekend. Look beyond the badge and you may be surprised :) Hmm my brother in law has one. His servicing costs are crazy - £500 for one service - £600 for front brakes etc. Although he does have the Cayenne S petrol. If I was wanting a Porsche - it'd have to be the Cayenne petrol (not the S version) which is plenty quick enough for my driving which is mainly in town. My ideal spec would be Palladium/Garnet red seats and the 21" wheels, of course with everything up to RX spec including LED lights, entry and drive, reversing camera, privacy glass, panoramic roof, laminated glass (standard on RX), sport design package without side skirts, active suspension management, auto dimming mirrors, seat heating, side airbags, porsche NAV, voice control and bose sound system. Racks up £71k and finding that combination would be impossible to find too. As for servicing costs my RX is on a service plan for £999 with included benefits which I use anyway and would be more expensive for me to buy separately. Without benefits i was quoted £650 for 2 minors and a major and £700 for 2 majors and 1 minor.

It's lies. The Lexus ECU's are locked and no one has cracked it yet. I doubt a small company in the UK has, way too many tried it in the states and failed. Also 8-10hp is nothing. You won't notice a small increase like that If you're seeking more power, best to look for a supercharger kit

With the RX though, the spec is good so you don't have to search for too many ex demos with the options you want. I think I may be wanting the panoramic sunroof this time as the RX won't be getting changed for a good 6 years or so so Id want most options on it if I'm keeping it that long

Im definitely buying an RX F-Sport as long as the options I want are configurable. However i am also waiting on a firm priceThe only thing is, even at £62k compared to £70K, in 3 years it'll be worth £27k at most if trading in. That's £35k in 3 years!! :O. Might just buy a 6 month old ex demo as it'll save me a good £15k I paid £54k for mine, it's probably only worth £25k if trading in. Financing would work out much more expensive due to the interest alone and I prefer to buy cars outright but we'll see