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Takumi grades have better sound isolation so make sure you try the model you intend to purchase to avoid disappointment.

Car collected yesterday afternoon. A far better experience all round this time (salesman, car & paperwork all ready). They have a 'handover specialist' now who helped me set everything up on the multimedia stuff. So far, no issues with profile not been recognised or anything. 😁 I guess last time (March 2022) we were all learning together as the car was still a new model and the salesman didn't have much of a clue.

Cur666, Thanks for your comments on AWD I will note them and if I REALLY like the LBX and choose to upgrade I will try and AWD model. Colin, I had a discussion with a technical specialists and she told me that the Takumi has 5 levels of sound insulation 2 levels more than other models. So I think you are right. I was caught with a cosmetic dilemma my wife ( who will own the car ) wanted the 2 tone look, hence a premium plus design …..I felt going to a Takumi Design which was fine started to introduce a suede interior which would have been catastrophic for Grandchildren duties. Sigh….such are the challenges of life !

The LBX Factory, in the East of Japan , is a long-standing Yaris Cross Factory too so, for once, I have no concerns whatsoever about first year glitches. The LBX production will be over 6months old when they build mine & ,pre-pandemic, The Toyota Production System was geared to a maximum of 6 months to erase product flaws. Our Aygo X was perfect & was a very early model. Hence Zero concerns. Tel

Apologies if posted already - mods please lock/remove of so... https://mag.lexus.co.uk/lexus-uk-statement-on-vehicle-theft/

Saw this on the Club Lexus forum.

It’s probably been posted on at least half a dozen threads over the last couple of days but the more people that see it the better so it can stay 🙂

I've been looking into this, I believe the Lexus list of affected models is correct and therefore the RC F isn't vulnerable - it is different to the RC. Whilst it does have CAN bus connected headlights, they are on a different CAN bus from the Smart Key/Certification ECU and therefore you cannot inject signals to fool it into thinking the key has unlocked the vehicle. Some initial thinking was there was a vulnerability on either the body ECU or gateway ECU which is allowing communication between two buses but all the listed affected vehicles have the headlight ECU directly connected to the same bus as the vehicle's Smart Key/Certification ECU which then unlocks the doors and communicates with the security ECU to turn off the alarm. Certainly this is the case up to MY18 models, I've not seen diagrams for MY19 onwards yet but I doubt it was changed.

Yes, agree with this. Enjoy your new car.

Happy wife and you saved some money - rare to get those two outcomes together 👍

There are reasons not to buy first year production vehicles, and especially launch vehicles, but insurance isn’t normally too big an issue. Lexus seems to have been slow to get the LBX insurance graded for some reason.

I just purchased a 2013 450h with 100k miles - we love it. I previously (and still do) owned a 2006 RX350 -185k miles and running strong, it's been a great car! I wanted to get something newer and a hybrid if possible and found this one - it's in excellent shape and love the color (dark red)! 1. I have worked on my own cars for years - but am a total newbie when it comes to the hybrid part. I've been reading the manual and online posts on hybrid/ev related items. So when we got the car home and put it in the garage, I heard this noise - like a whirring sound - goes on and off, coming from the front when I take it out of Park and put in Reverse/backup - I think it only makes this noise after the motor has shut off when it is still in Park and I back it up. I was told this is a normal sound when going in reverse but why don't I always hear it whenever I am backing up, instead of only some of the times? 2. There is a button to enable "EV" . Whenever I try it, I get a message "EV unavailable" . Is this normal and what is the purpose of the button? These are probably simple things, but being an EV newbie, I appreciate any thoughts/comments! Pat

Hi, I bought my first Lexus on Thursday a dark blue (Windsor blue?), 2009 IS 250 SE-I with 35000 miles on it! I've been waiting for some compensation to come through which finally arrived a couple of weeks ago. There's been a few I've been watching on Auto Trader but one after another they sold whilst I was waiting for the money. Once it came through I took my time, not rushing into anything then this one turned up. I've got to say I couldn't be happier. I'll do a better photo once the weather is better.

Very subtle changes, mainly to the upper and lower grille having a slightly more aggressive "V" shape. Shouldn't matter if you replace the complete bumper/grille package that McSchmoopy is offering.

We take the issue of Toyota and Lexus vehicle theft very seriously. We are continuously developing technical solutions to make our vehicles more secure, to help reduce the risk of theft. An enhanced security hardware system was introduced in October 2021 on the latest models targeted by criminals. Since which, we have seen a significant drop in thefts of those models. For older models, we endeavour to create solutions that can offer enhanced protection to our customers. Following significant investments by Toyota GB, in line with that of other vehicle manufacturers, newly developed official Toyota and Lexus security hardware components will very soon be available to fit to those targeted models registered before October 2021. Following communication from Lexus in the coming weeks, owners should contact their local dealer to arrange free of charge fitment. Customers can already speak to their local dealer about the fitment of a protective plate to block access to the vehicle’s electronics. This is a nationwide customer care offering. As a vehicle manufacturer, we can never completely eliminate the risk of vehicle theft. This is an industry-wide issue, concerning all vehicle manufacturers and affecting the most popular models first. In order to further reduce the theft risk, we regularly collaborate and share information with insurance associations, police and law enforcement authorities, theft prevention experts and other key stakeholders around the world. This enables us to understand new threats and techniques used by thieves and develop more secured systems. Alongside our efforts, we urge those authorities to focus on reducing the number of thefts. We would also like to see action taken that leads to the end to the online sale of devices used by criminals to steal cars without using the car keys, as these devices serve no purpose other than a criminal one. How do thieves manage to steal cars this way? The thieves disconnect part of the headlamp and use a malicious device to send signals to the control CAN bus (the communication ‘backbone’ within a car) that allow the doors to open and the car to start without the key or remote control. Thieves need to: Purchase a relatively expensive rogue device (third-party ‘emergency start’ device which costs around £2,500 – £4,000 each) Gain physical access to the vehicle’s CAN bus communication wires for an uninterrupted period. The third-party ‘emergency start’ device has the capability to initiate an exploit in the following manner: Once connected to the vehicle’s CAN bus communication wires, the third-party ‘emergency start’ device can send a prioritised series of CAN signals to bypass the vehicle’s security and immobiliser systems, which could allow a thief to unlock the doors and turn the vehicle’s ignition ON. The third-party ‘emergency start’ device is then disconnected. At this point a thief can enter the vehicle and start the car without the key What is Lexus doing to prevent these types of attacks? Lexus takes the issue of car theft very seriously. We are continuously developing technical solutions to make our vehicles more secure to help reduce the risk of theft. In the UK market, an enhanced security hardware was introduced in October 2021 on the latest versions of the models that had previously been targeted by criminals. Since then, we have seen a significant drop-off in terms of successful thefts of those models. For older models we endeavour to create solutions that can offer enhanced protection to our customers. We cannot divulge the precise nature of the imminent security enhancement; should we do so we risk offering information into the public domain that could be of interest to criminal parties. The intention is to make the security enhancement available to all vehicles where a countermeasure is available. In October 2021 (introduction of NG NX), a new security platform started to be rolled out. There are no reports of theft using the CAN bus injection method on any model with the new platform. What models are known to be targeted by this issue and are newer models affected? The model primarily targeted is the Lexus RX Gen 4. Other models have also been targeted. Which Lexus models can be fitted with the enhanced security feature? It can be fitted to previous generation RX, NX, plus ES, LC, LS, RC, GS, UX and UXe Which models are affected by year? Lexus models Affected years/months Lexus LC / LC-C 2017/03 – 2024/03 Lexus RC 2017/03 – 2024/03 Lexus RX / RX L 450h 2015/10 – 2022/10 Lexus ES 2018/10 – 2024/02 Lexus GS / GS-F 2015/11 – 2020/11 Lexus NX 2017/09 – 2021/10 Lexus LS 2017/10 – 2022/09 Lexus UX / UXe 2018/10 – 2023/12 When did Lexus first become aware of the vulnerability in the security system? It is not so much vulnerability of the security systems but more so the growing rise in criminal gangs targeting vehicles for ‘cannibalisation’ and / or complete theft. Instances appear to have been rising significantly from 2019-2020. There are many factors involved and at a global level. This includes parts of the world experiencing parts shortage which results in targeted thefts to supply vehicles and/or parts sent to countries experiencing trade restrictions. When is the enhanced security upgrade going to be available and will it be free of charge? Exact timings are still to be confirmed. We anticipate being able to advise the Lexus Centre network with full details before the end of April 2024. The required enhancement needs to be carried out at a Lexus Centre. Costs are under review and customers may incur a nominal charge. Are new models such as the LBX targeted by thieves? While no car can be considered 100% immune to criminal intent, more recent models are equipped with enhanced security systems aimed at deterring CAN bus type thefts. Given that the rise in this type or car theft has been known for several years in other countries and is growing in the UK why wasn’t I told about this? Lexus takes the issue of car crime very seriously. To protect customers’ vehicles our approach is not to disclose our vehicle theft analysis data. The sharing of information could enable thieves to find ways to circumvent anti–theft technologies or make some models particularly attractive to some thieves and unnecessarily vulnerable to attack. Why are Lexus owners not being invited to install protective plates to their vehicles and why were they only supplied to London Centres? Lexus offers a free of charge VPP (Vehicle Protection Plate) to any RX450h customer. Every Lexus Centre across the UK has access to this part. Parts were issued to London Centres in the first instance in line with where the demand has occurred, but all Centres can order the VPP. The strategy is however, to focus attention not to the roll-out of the VPP but to a sophisticated vehicle enhancement. What is the countermeasure and the plan moving forwards? We are continuously developing technical solutions to make our vehicles more secure and reduce the risk of theft. An enhanced security hardware was introduced in October 2021 on the latest versions of the models that had previously been targeted by criminals. Since then, we have seen a significant drop-off in terms of successful thefts of those models. Also we are able to supply and fit a VPP (Vehicle Protection Plate) to targeted RX models We endeavour to make available another solution that can offer enhanced protection. Details will follow in the coming weeks. This will be communicated to the Lexus Centre network, which will also be responsible for fitting the enhanced security solution. Why is there no recall for vehicles susceptible to the CAN bus attack? Recall announcements in the UK are guided by very specific guidelines as drawn up by Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency (DVSA). To qualify as a recall, the issue must relate to a safety or thermal type issue where there is potential for injury as a result of vehicle manufacture or component failure. Only in these such circumstances can a recall be announced. In recall circumstances, the DVSA will provide manufacturers access to ownership records for purpose of communication. Instances of theft do not trigger a recall. Will Lexus pay for damage caused by an attempted theft? No. This will need to be addressed by the customer and the vehicle insurers. While we understand theft or attempted theft can be highly upsetting and, in some cases, a costly experience, in such instances customers are first and foremost victims of crime. Lexus does not cover costs associated with criminal activity either under the terms of the warranty or as goodwill. What is the position with insuring affected models? As a manufacturer, we stay close to Lexus Insurance colleagues and indeed all motor insurers. We are aware that in many cases, insurance premiums might have increased as a direct result of vehicle crime. We need to refer you to your insurer for further comment. https://mag.lexus.co.uk/lexus-uk-statement-on-vehicle-theft

Sorry, but I remain sceptical. There are some genuine information, but also a lot of purely political statements filtered trough PR department. No mention that they were basically negligent leaving CANBUS unencrypted and thus vulnerable to be attacked. The definition of world vulnerability- being susceptible to harm or attack. Which all the models listed are.

Maybe they have disintegrated like mine, I would never have thought about them to be honest. It was the plastic bits coming off when washing that prompted me.

Battery has charged up, and I drove the car round the neighbourhood to check everything works. Even the VSC light reset itself. Took a couple of photos in case they're of interest. Battery now on trickle charge. My garage no longer deals with the Yuasa supplier, and would have to replace the battery with a Bosch. Not sure if I'll have to pay. If I do, I'll go for a LPD one instead.

Nice to see a definitive list of affected models in that article. Would be useful to pin such information to the forums. Lexus models Affected years/months Lexus LC / LC-C 2017/03 – 2024/03 Lexus RC 2017/03 – 2024/03 Lexus RX / RX L 450h 2015/10 – 2022/10 Lexus ES 2018/10 – 2024/02 Lexus GS / GS-F 2015/11 – 2020/11 Lexus NX 2017/09 – 2021/10 Lexus LS 2017/10 – 2022/09 Lexus UX / UXe 2018/10 – 2023/12

The comments are entertaining - "Why is this statement released on the very day my NX was stolen. My car was stolen this week Wednesday and the utter lack of care and total nonchalance is shocking. I had the vehicle for almost 3 years and never received any communication from Lexus about this very well known issue. This article link was sent to me, else I wouldn’t have seen it – once again indicating total lack of communication to Lexus owners. I won’t buy another Lexus" "My Lexus 300NX got stolen from my drive last week, CAN bus attack, I came across this article regarding the fitment of the plate and also this was highlighted on the BBC One Show. My car was serviced in January and I was not told about the plate. This is really bad customer service. Now my insurers are not paying the full value of the car. I was told, I should have put a put a steering wheel lock, so you pay £45000 for a car and have to purchase a £50 steering lock. !!!! This had caused so much frustration and inconvenience." "We designed something with a vulnerability, yet “costs are under review and customers may incur a nominal charge.” What a load of BS." "I have had 6 lexus’s. 50% of them stolen. One RX450 in November 2022 and then BOTH UX250’s in August 2023. Lexus just wrote me a Dear John letter when I contacted them. I worked so hard for those cars and always aspired to have a Lexus. I will never buy Lexus ever again. I have the CCTV footage.. took them 45 seconds to steal my RX450 and less than 2 minutes to then drive off with mine and my wife’s UX250’s" Maybe employing Gerald Ratner as Head of PR might improve things. Another point - on the RX section of this website there are people discussing second generation canbus protection plates. That clearly suggests the first plate design doesn't work!! My guess is any steel cover can be got around by accessing the loom at a different point, or instead of connecting to the pins in a multiplug just tapping into the correct colour wires further along the same cable. Solution : immobiliser for all, or an upgrade to the canbus hardware so we have 2024 spec systems on all older cars.

Seen it too In "DRL-mode" rearlights are added as extra brakelights while in "headlight-mode" its just the standard 3 brake lights as on most cars

Hi, just caught this headline today after coincidentally seeing a glowing report of the Century on the Driven to Write website. Hopefully this link works ok. https://driventowrite.com/2024/03/15/a-dtw-kind-of-car-toyota-century/

I don’t think so. The ‘free’ 10 year warranty is only provided because the cars are so reliable which doesn’t suddenly change at 10 years and the hybrid battery has a warranty up to 15 years if you get a yearly health check.

I tried - I was told that none of your insurers could provide a quote for the original edition either.

Yes, that is what the both quotes I have say, plus innumerable small and costly bits and pieces, mounting up to £6.5K (Lexus) and £5.1K (decent local independent). As the situation is entirely the fault of the carpark owner, I am minded to let this play out with no intervention on my part. We shall see. But I thank you all for your advice and may yet have to call on you for spare parts!

Hi Steve and welcome to the LOC. Let’s have some pictures please, we like pictures 😀

There is a slight drop, leave it overnight and then recheck, if there is a crack in the core it could open up more when the coolant is hot.

I bought my custard yellow one in the hope that it would be even less desirable than a red one 😂

Hi, I've had my 1998 century for about 3yrs now. Had it fully serviced by Toyota (they loved working on it) have only had to change the starter motor. Once you've driven one, there's no going back. It puts a smile on everyone's face. Buy one! Enjoy! They are works of art that need preserving. Thinking of selling mine in the summer to get a newer one.

So sorry to hear of your loss, Alan. I can understand how the diversion of a new car could be a welcome distraction at such a difficult time. 🙁

The LBX is on a temporary code at the moment which is (P) this should alter soon when the insurance companies assess the car and put in its proper category. That's why people are getting silly quotes which are very expensive hopefully this will all be resolved soon. I hope this helps .

Lest we forget that newer car headlamp bulb brightness is far far whiter brighter than the new bulb yellowish brightness of more elderly cars …… and they’re all MOT ok I’m sure night driving I’m quite ok with the eyes easily adjusting to the old fashioned yellowish headlamps ok It’s the like dazzling Main Beam of the new white headlamps that’s to my mind unnecessarily penetrating and I think possibly quite dangerous, MOT approved or not ! Malc

Thanks for the response.i have an eye test regularly so cataracts is not a problem. I know the operation is quick and painless ,my wife has had hers done a couple of years ago.. only problem is that she's able to see things like dust or the weeds I missed in the garden

I finally have insurance sorted for my Original Edition! £439 from Lexus Insurance.

Definitely agree on the eye examination.Catatacts sometimes develop fairly slowly,so you may not notice your vision worsening.Once treated(outpatients for an afternoon)anda few days recovery you are as good as new.

Expensive puncture 😅😅

Yesterday we took a 120 mile test drive in an LBX ( Premium Design) ….some commentary……… 1. Handling was actually much better than I thought, went into and out of corners very well. They have done something to the suspension which makes it very appealing. 2. Overall fit and finish inside looked very good quality.A well put together vehicle.It felt like a vehicle that would be good enough and comfortable enough for a longish journey, quite a nice place to be. 3. The interchange between the combustion engine and the battery was flawless.We were stuck in a traffic tailback and all of this was covered in battery. 4.The vehicle looks very good although I’m not a Lexus aficionado it feels like they have had their A design team on this project. 5. One critical comment would be on more demanding Scottish A class hilly roads it does feel a little underpowered or putting it another way if you want to access more power you need to rev the engine quite high +4.5k revs. I presume this is a feature of eCVT. Anyway not sure if this detail helps anyone. I’m trying a Lexus since I have had loads of German cars and apart from Porsche I think their quality is going south. This is a daily driver type vehicle. Was going to get a Takumi Design but the suede looks doomed to be attacked by the sticky fingers of my grandchildren. I have ordered a Premium Design Plus ….(wife likes the two tone look), delivery early May. Insurance will be via NFU as per my previous thread.

Most headlights from factory are lower than the MOT standards and sensor failure for self levelling is actually quite rare It may be worth getting checked for cataracts as that tends to cause excessive glare

Yes headlight alignment is still an MOT test criteria. Most are self-leveling these days for HID's and LED's so it's often the level sensor mechanism that has failed.

Correct factory part (£88.00 + shipping): Lexus SC430 Soarer 02-10 Radio Antennenstab Antenna Mast Antenne | eBay No need to replace the original motor just press 2 buttons on the stereo unit which pulls the plastic tail into the motor casing.

I had this on my RX400h. It was the actuator that moved the airflow from windscreen vents to floor. There was something in the mechanism (a lever I think) that failed and then it kept clicking away trying to move the lever up and down. The actuator was accessible under the steering column and behind the foot brake. I had to dismantle the foot brake, move it out the way, remove some trim and then reach up to remove 3 screws that held the actuator in place. An absolute pig to do, using a screwdriver ratchet (Philips head) and I had to bend myself into a pretzel to do it. I put in a second hand actuator - this was 7 years ago and it's still fine. It was a choice of 2nd hand actuator £25 + my time, vs £000s getting an independent to do it.

A quick update to say that the car arrived and collected. It’s lovely and enjoyable to drive. Much more fun than previous one (UX) and I should say technology/gadgets improved a lot since 2020 when I bought UX.

Thanks Rayaan So there is some hope then.

That is correct. There is a diagnostic charge initially and it is the same as most manufacturers under the approved used scheme or extended warranty. If the fault is found and covered by the warranty then it'll be waived and everything fixed under the warranty. If not, you usually pay the diagnostic charge and then the dealer will give you a quote which you can choose to accept or not. More than likely the sunroof drains are blocked, more so if the car has spent time under trees

Have you had a replacement windscreen?

That's no problem sir more than happy to help. Gotta keep the wife happy, happy wifey happy lifey!😂

Hi Kalpesh - I have a lovely Canterbury Blue GS450H SEL in for repair at present this is the the model with the excellent Radar Cruise & sunroof fitted, it has @90,000m on the clock which is very low with the cream leather interior which is in good condition. The owner wishes to sell it after repair (As soon as the AA give their go ahead!) I last repaired it in August of 2022 at that time the owner only selected a 6 month graded repair - that was 19 months ago!! not bad aye? Early diagnostics reveal at least 2 cell modules are down but the full extent of what is needed will not be known until I have taken the hybrid battery pack out of the car and carried out full discharge testing of each of the 40 modules over time, I can see that the tpms sensors need doing & there is a scuff/scratch on the N/S/R I would estimate @£100 to repair. I think (dont quote me) that the owner is asking in the low £4Ks for it, I think it would be a good buy for someone. If you or anyone else are interested feel free to message me & I will give you his phone number. Best Regards Richard

My Order is being processed & delivery is said ti be early April 2024. Very excited. Tel

I didn’t name it but I suppose I could think of something a little more exotic based on cement like Granny Clampet’s “Ceement Pond”.

The saving grace for LC is that they are simply not in demand to be stolen. The hot on the list are SUVs, that is what everyone wants, the parts are in demand, the cars are in demand for exporting etc. LC is just not that car that is on the radar, it is way to rare to for somebody to try to "legitimise" it locally, it is way to rare that somebody would try to rebuild/re-VIN a wreck, it is too expensive and not suitable for driving in Africa. So although technically it may be prone to CANBUS attack, it is simply not the type of car thief target. I would be highly worried about RX and NX, I have seen few ES stolen (really surprises me as to why ES?!), but LC just not the type of car.