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Hi Paul..thats odd as it's just sat there - probably me- tech dinosaur I'll try again

Yes @Big Rat I sent you an updated PM about the car and its condition / history ..not sure you've seen it yet. There was a significant mark on the bonnet they assured me they would deal with, I havent seen it since but my experience down there is that they are lacking in several areas, presentation being one.

Haha...I'm in the process of going the other way. I had an IS200 for seven years, moved on to a screaming 6 pot BMW 1 series coupe, moved back to semi sensible 3rd Gen IS for a few years, got bored now going back to the BMW (with of course a lengthy warranty). I'll probably be back. Lovely colour, almost identical to the Mineral grey 340i I've just ordered . - with M sports suspension and 19" wheels oops. I'll keep an eye on the pot holes.

Just one quick point no matter what you go for. Its worth bearing in mind that any car registered since June 2017 with a list price of over £40k will attract a further £310 on top of its usual VED for five years.

Does the £30K budget include your car as a part ex? I'm in the same position in that my car is three years old. Its not however a company car , I don't have any commute of note so its used for pleasure only. Sadly it needs to be a little practical as well Like you I'm a bit of a petrol head, so much so I wont yet even go down the hybrid route. I will buy on PCP as often there are incentives (see below) - then pay it straight off having pocketed the incentive. My current car is the 4 cyclinder turbo version of yours. I've done the round robin of dealerships and looked at plenty of cars / deals and test driven a shed load of cars as well as having my car valued. Apart from the RCF there is nothing from Lexus that makes me want to stay with them at the moment and I fancy a change I've actually gone back to the dark side. BMW (I know -its BMW) are doing some outstanding deals on cars. Audi and Mercedes have without doubt ruffled their feathers. Amongst my numerous test drives I did an M240i. There was a thread on another forum about the new Supra being fitted with a straight six B58 engine. I was initially sceptical but combined with BMW's 8 speed auto its sublime, appears to be a very reliable engine. I tried it in various guises and have settled on a 340i... I know its BMW but it really is a wolf in sheeps clothing. It sounds beautiful, not V8 beautiful but the best sounding 6 cyclinder engine I've heard. Although it probably wouldn't fit your needs (I believe its not too bad on a run 40 plus mpg is possible) the deals being offered on pre reg cars are outrageous.. I've managed to get a pre reg, 3 months old / 5 miles on the clock for £17k off list price thats 35% off, absolutely fully loaded with options. Although BMW don't technically do finance incentives on pre reg they will - I got a further £1000 off. Unlike Lexus you can pay this / PCP off straight away (Lexus require six payments). Their part ex figures were also generous (as were Mercedes) far more so than Lexus .Although I didn't look for a 330e the F30 platform is being replaced by the G20 in the next few months so deals are there as they try to shift stock. Cost to change for me for a new straight six turbo, with all the toys was less than 15k.

Yes, I think I can just about see the leak Are you saying the dealer positively encouraged you to drive away that death trap ? I'm absolutely lost for words, the place needs shutting down. I presume that picture is going to trading standards.

I looked at an RCF yesterday in the pouring rain. Opened the boot to see if the golf clubs would fit and stood transfixed at the rain pouring into the boot from the top right side of the tailgate.😂 Decent sized boot mind.

Fair play in spotting it but It sounds a bit messy .The chances are that it won't impact on the car itself , more so on re sale and also you will have this thing bugging you forever. In my case (not my current car I must add) it was a car previously on PCP and there was no obligation on the owner to get it serviced, so he didn't bother. He just used it for three years and handed it back. I've no idea if he was penalised. The salesman then messed up. He retro stamped the book for the so called missing services after I had picked it up, however you cant retro stamp the date so they were all the same . He left shortly afterwards. I was given compensation in the form of three years free servicing and MOT'S, I was also offered a cash refund. Nail them down on the missing service issue or walk away. If there is no discount then try an get a further years warranty or a few services thrown in.

They must get vehicles back in from PCP / lease deals that have missed services for various reasons. They have no real option but to revert to the Lexus approved option. In my case I was verbally assured it had a full service history before they told me to look at the small print. I think its slightly disingenuous. That said, I viewed a car yesterday and although the computer system is 'clunky' and outdated its better than it was but still doesn't read easy. The stamped books are of course only there to satisfy old school blokes like me who Insist a car should be serviced every year and at the very least have a dipstick. 😉

But its not a full service history if services have been missed. Lexus still sell cars that have actually missed services, the get out as in my case is simply calling it a Lexus approved history. Its almost worth a complaint to the advertising standards agency.

I fell for that once. If you look at the link and scroll down to FULL SERVICE HISTORY It then states All Lexus Approved Pre-Owned vehicles must have a service history that is approved by the Lexus retailer. In other words a Lexus approved service history isn't necessarily a full service history. Mine had the first two services missing, when I spoke to the owner he told me he just never took it in . Lexus give them the once over and stick a Lexus approved service history on them, which I think is a poor show.

Can anyone firm this up @Big Rat ..is this on your 'naughty list'? Any opinion on spec / price ? cheers

As an ex owner of a BMW straight six turbo I'd agree it's a lovely engine. However peruse the forums and you'll find numerous reliability issues and the reason I sold it . I'm not sure that will fit in with Toyotas ethos so it surprises me somewhat.

The IS200t and IS300h (dependant on model)

Valencia orange on a 1M ? Luverly. (prefer the legs on the original version mind 😉)

My local Audi garage has a Gym ...lol https://www.pooleaudi.co.uk/owners-area/poole-audi-gym My Lexus dealership has a coffee machine but they even struggle with that. They are good people though. The local Audi and BMW dealerships are dynamic, I hate to say it they are so far ahead of Lexus in marketing and selling cars its embarrassing. These places are absolutely buzzing. That said if you stuck an RCF in one of those showrooms people would be all over it like a rash. I really cannot get my head around Lexus in this country.

£150 a year parked plus 3p a mile for me. I currently pay £170 ...If I did 5000 miles a year the total would be £300 . Agree about VED, its nonsensical .

I do road trips abroad as well but the car is left at home😉 Bloody cyclists !!! Pyrenees 2011 (Spain back UK ) Koln 2015 (UK to Switzerland and return via France) DDAY beaches 2017 Apologies back to car trips (I really should do some at some point - it will save the knees 🙂

I'd say Image and lack of marketing. To sum things up we met a couple on holiday. The wife was a company director and wanted something a bit classy , he insisted it should have some grunt so they got an AMG C63 coupe. She wanted the badge, he wouldn't entertain an RCF as he said no one would know what the hell it was. Thats just one example and you hear it repeated over and over again. Most of these cars are sporty looking status symbols, yet the owners on here tend to be enthusiasts. Look in a Premier League football car park and you will see exactly whats selling high end / whats bling and you won't find a Lexus let alone an F. There is probably zero market for an RC 350 here either (which I agree is a shame). Audi and BMW have nailed that particular slot with faster and far more efficient engines in the 3 litre range.

Is he not waiting for the RC 350 ? The problem with that is ze Germans will stamp all over it and we could argue all day / night /week / month / year about it getting done by a 4 cylinder turbo...😉

I see Honda have it . It seems a useful feature. if your'e worried about someone hiding in your hedge with the ability to start your car then I'd suggest a touch of paranoia . If you have that paranoia just lock it.

I guess something's being lost in translation here or should have gone to specsavers That said I'm horrified to read that recycled Tesco carrier bags are being used instead of leather....thats awful, I mean really. Why not Waitrose

Practically no difference. Will ANPR even pick up the finer details of an MOT failure when an MOT is still in force, absolutely no chance. Nothing has changed. You get an MOT fail certificate even if you rectify it to a pass one hour later and there is no way that will be uploaded quick enough to the DVSA database. There are too many differentials in fail / retest hence thats why they have probably kept to the simple solution of an expiry date 12 months after the initial issue.

This thread is worth a read : DVSA confirm previous MOT is still valid if you fail https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5838860#topofpage You can drive your vehicle with a major fault if your old MOT is still valid, because you took your vehicle in for an MOT early. But your vehicle does have faults that may make it unroadworthy, and if stopped by the police you could be prosecuted. https://www.moneyadviceservice.org.uk/blog/new-mot-vehicle-test-may-2018 If you can link to something that says the new MOT, if failed cancels the old MOT and your other point "They fail your car, you can't go elsewhere " I'm sure more than a few of us would be interested. As far as I can see and confirmed above your old MOT is still valid, however the system gets updated with Dangerous Fault / Major fault and (like before) you run the risk of driving a car in a dangerous condition. If dangerous fault the advice is dont drive it, if Major you can still drive it away , get repaired / to re test etc. Scenario : Your MOT expires on 30th June. You get it MOT'd on 5th June and it fails on a dangerous fault- say a completely bald tyre. You get the tyre replaced and you can still drive until your original MOT runs out even if you dont get it re tested -it will also now be roadworthy. cheers