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So, I have recently picked up a rather cheap '05 LS430 to go with my LS400, SC430 and Toyota Crown 1JZ. I must be mad! However this my first dip in the LS430 water and, being used to a LS400, I want to calibrate my expectations! The car is not too bad condition considering it's hardly moved for a year. Needs new brakes all round and MOT. First, air suspension seems fine. I've run it through the cycles, measured that high and normal levels from the ground to the middle of the arch on both settings, all seems well. However it doesn't feel as 'wafty' and comfy as the 400? Plus the drivers seat doesn't seem to be 'sprung' on the 430 like it is on the 400? Are both these normal?! Air con isn't cold but compressor is working, I know the rear pipes can corrode and leak gas so I'll gas it up and see if it lasts. Drivers steering column doesn't tilt or telescope, a common fault I believe. Overall, it seems pretty decent for the money, 100k miles only. Question is, I've always avoided air suspension, mainly because I didn't want to fix it! If the air suspension does give up the ghost, what is a sensible way to go? Is there a conventional spring conversion kit? Coilovers (don't really fancy them on a car like this)? What is the route most go, who do not give it Lexus to fix?! It was so cheap I do not have much to concern myself with but assuming all is well I am concious that I may have to choose between this and the 400 eventually, or maybe run both, who needs food?! Photo for attention!
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Goodbye IS250?
H3XME replied to H3XME's topic in Lexus IS 250 / Lexus IS 250C Club / Lexus IS 220D & IS 200D Club
Thanks! It's only a DE (N/A) the one I'm getting (hopefully). TT Manuals are silly money, and to be honest I didn't want the ballache of having to deal with TT issues - there will be lots to sort out without having to even open the bonnet as it is. Price was right, can't complain. I'm just glad it's a manual and standard tbh. Other than alloys it's not been molested by max power body kits like the majority of them😂 My plan for it isn't anything drastic. Coilovers, wheels, exhaust, steering wheel (something smaller as I'm 6'2), 99+spec tail lights and a boot spoiler. Just like in the pic I attached. TwinDesign in the states do some really nice stuff.
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I don't think the wheels and the silver colour did anything to enhance that particular cars looks IMHO, there are far better looking cars on here! Why spend £300 ave per corner on oem shocks then fit lowering springs when a good set of coilovers can be had for £800? again IMHO the sc is quick as opposed to outright fast which is what it's designed to be a luxury cruiser with a build quality second to none, I never feel envious of any other cars I see on the road when I am driving mine OK so it may not be as fast or corner quite as well but it will still be here long after That st 40 or gti or vti has given up the ghost😊
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Debatable. it's a DIY job tbh. Not all of them, no. I'd say any car over 200hp, let alone 400+. You need it on FWD cars to get rid of torque steer and on everything else it's just better. You won't get the back end out easy on a round about in a stock is250 but stiffen up the rear end with coilovers and it'll be a lot more lively. 86 for example only has 200hp but because it's ~1240kg it goes out rather easily, so it really depends on more than just power. No I meant the clunky noise is with plated differentials. Not torsen. You have different types. Helical (geared - similar to torsen) and plated diffs (those are very aggressive, clunky by design and therefore only used in motorsports)
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Are 250 and 220 lower control arms interchangable?
MrTrendizzle replied to MrTrendizzle's topic in Brakes & Suspension
I was quoted £350 from the garage for the shock. At that price i might aswell grab some coilovers and do all 4 corners and not worry about them for a while. I'll take a look through the forums in a minute for a spare. I've just cleaned the shock and it looks brand new with zero leakage. I have a sneaky suspicion it's old dirt and WD40 stuck to the shock the tester looked at. Thank you Linas. Yeah they look identical. I just wanted to double check before committing the buy. Headlights like you said a bit of polish and elbow grease will do wonders. I hadn't thought about adding some epoxy to the surround to stop the leak. Might look in to that for now. I'm kinda using the MOT sheet as a good excuse to upgrade parts as i can claim "£200 per headlight vs £500 for both vlands" without the wife getting upset with me 😄 -
Are 250 and 220 lower control arms interchangable?
MrTrendizzle replied to MrTrendizzle's topic in Brakes & Suspension
Well as an update i failed the MOT. This bush was not one of the fails nor was it even an advisory. Failed on nearside front shock leaking Exhaust Lambada after 2nd test outside specified limits (Could be due to small exhaust leak) Headlamp lens defective bothsides (Very yellowish and one lets in water) Brakepads nearside rear wearing thin Service brake binding but not excessively offside rear. Fast/second idle test reads, CO 0.01/0.01 (up to 0.20 to pass) HC 6/4 (up to 200 to pass) Lambada 1.058 (0.970 - 1.030 to pass) Now is it better to get some new shiny coilovers? Vland headlights? Exhaust will get a new gasket somewhere i guess. Can't see anything else being wrong with it. New pads and adjust the handbrake a little. -
Hi Mike, The best thing you can do in this situation is to go for these: https://www.fensport.co.uk/products/shock-absorber-tein-endura-pro-plus-adjustable-rear-is200d-is220d-is250?_pos=4&_sid=36bf26701&_ss=r TEIN Endura Pro Adjustable shocks. I have TEIN coilovers on my car, but as linked above, they do OE-style replacement shock absorbers too. AND they are 16 way damping adjustable (like my coilovers) There's a twisty bit at top of the shock which you can turn left or right (8 turns towards soft and 8 turns towards stiffer) to adjust the damping - basically set it to harder or softer setting (if you leave it mid-way as it comes pre-set it will be just like OE shock) and you can do that when it's installed on the car, just need to get to the shock so pull the boot carpet back to access it. No need to take it off the car and mess about like that. It's only £126 for one shock (front & rear priced the same), but it's genuine aftermarket product with warranty, none of the china no-name stuff you can get elsewhere marketed as OE product. As for springs, you can also get TEIN lowering springs ~35mm lowering but if you don't wish to lower the car, you can just get any standard replacement springs as it's still compatible with factory springs. They do fronts too, but if you don't need them, I'd recommend just getting these rears as you know it's a quality product from a known aftermarket brand.. Here's more info on the product itself. https://uk.tein.com/product/endurapro.html I'd recommend this to everyone who finds the IS250 maybe too stiff or too soft but wants to retain factory ride height & cost down.
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To make you feel better, getting the corroded brakes repaired in said Merceds was over a grand, that figure now most likely 2 grand - not counting everything else that it needed! A car is only a money pit if you continually throw money at it, occasional splurts of money are acceptable. I had a Honda Accord before the Lexus and that was pretty good, I remember getting coilovers on it once in Scotland and a few months later doing a MOT and noticed a new-ish white BMW there on both occasions --> moneypit -
IS250 steering overhaul - Part I: retrofit to ISF sway bar and bushings
H3XME replied to AFlex's topic in Brakes & Suspension
I'm 99% sure anti-roll bars are the same across the range. 250/350/ISF.. It's probably the new bushes that made a difference. Cusco do thicker ones - 30mm vs stock 27mm I think and 19mm rear compared to 17mm rear. Front 30mm Sway bar part no. - 199 311 A30 Rear 19mm Sway bar part no. - 983 311 B19 There is a few companies in the UK that get Cusco from Japan.. They are the same thickness are TRD ones but those are considerably harder to get - Cusco ones are still available new. Sway bars would definitely make a very noticeable difference because despite improving the body roll by being on coilovers it could still do with less of it. I have been eyeing up Hardrace lower control arm bushes (linked) for quite some time now.. I might actually get them before I get camber adjustable top arms.
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Ok, so my rear shocks are blown and will be an MOT failure... Time to replace but after seeing Lexus dealer prices for OEM parts I'm seriously thinking of fitting a full set of coilovers. Dissapointed I'll lose the in car adjustability of the dampeners but hopefully I can find a good balanced setting on the coilovers. Any recommendations for which coilovers to get? I'm currently looking at Tein Flex Z, HSD monopro and D2 racing (street) Do we have any suppliers on here offering club discounts etc? :)
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Another F leaving
Twellsie replied to Twellsie's topic in Lexus F Club - Lexus IS-F / GS-F / RC-F Club
I did look at the Subaru's and Stageas, but the Odyssey sold it for me, with the 3rd row of seats folded down the back is huge and perfect for two big dogs, this one happened to be very local to me so decided to go and have a look, it feels much newer than a 2011 car, its only done 60k miles and is like brand new, it also comes with a couple of nice additions, HKS hypermax coilovers, mugen exhaust, the wheels are not my taste but are genuine Work wheels in as new condition, so should make a few quid back on them. Now lookng forward to picking it up and driving it so that i can decide on engine plans -
I had the Bilsteins on mine before I swapped to the BC Racing coilovers, although they were on it when i got the car so not shure how they compare to standard, but seem alright
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Lowering An RCF?
ben_harmer32 replied to Jgtcracer's topic in Lexus F Club - Lexus IS-F / GS-F / RC-F Club
I haven't noticed any tyre wear, although I don't do a lot of mileage. I wasn't overly fussed about the warranty on the shocks. I decided if they go I will upgrade to coilovers for around a £1000. -
ISF - Suspension / LSD
BTCC_ Racer replied to BTCC_ Racer's topic in Lexus F Club - Lexus IS-F / GS-F / RC-F Club
How do the BC coilovers compare to the Bilsteins? what options are you looking at for a diff? I would prefer a oem diff unit and just swap the whole assembly. -
ISF - Suspension / LSD
Twellsie replied to BTCC_ Racer's topic in Lexus F Club - Lexus IS-F / GS-F / RC-F Club
My car had Bilsteins on it when i got it, unfortunately I dont know how this compares to stock but it was comfy enough, now on BC Racing Coilovers. LSD is on the list but have not got round to it yet -
LS430 Air Struts
Malc replied to Micholas's topic in LS 400 / Lexus LS 430 / Lexus LS 460 / Lexus 600h / Lexus 500h Club
AND I have bought, said to be British stuff, from time to time and it's actually of Chinese origin ..... crap or not sorry to digress ...... Nicholas ........ you seem to have made your mind up about not going to coilovers and I trust you are aware of the members on here who have made that change and are very satisfied too ..... I have no personal experience as I have a Ls400 .. just going from my readings here over many years Best wishes with whatever you decide is best for you Malc -
SPRINGS REPLACEMENT, IS F SPORT ONESTHE SAME AS SE-L TYPES?
ahmed-abrar replied to ahmed-abrar's topic in Brakes & Suspension
thanks, i did my enquiry's about the coilovers mentioned but to be honest i cant justify the cost considering how little i use the car generally( 5 to choose from) ,plus i purchased from a forum member a new set of Eibachs at about 50% of MRP plus i'm trying to secure a set of new old stock KYB's at substantial discount. just wanna give the car a bit of character by reducing ride height -
SPRINGS REPLACEMENT, IS F SPORT ONESTHE SAME AS SE-L TYPES?
H3XME replied to ahmed-abrar's topic in Brakes & Suspension
No gain from getting new ones. Given the cost you're better off getting damping adjustable coilovers so you don't compronise on comfort as lowering springs on stock struts will be harsher than coils. -
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1996 LS400 REAR SPRING REPLACEMENT. WHICH TO BUY, AND WHERE?
Howplum replied to Howplum's topic in Brakes & Suspension
Talking of possible bargains, or not, these are the prices Lexus quoted me for the lower shock absorber nut and bolt along with the anti-roll bar bushes and drop links: "Rear Axle Carrier Bolt - £20.68 available from LPD here. Rear Axle Carrier Nut - £7.77 available from LPD here. Rear Stabilizer Bush - £50.12 available from LPD here. Rear Stabilizer Link - £177.46 available from LPD here." As a matter of curiosity I did contact HSD about their coilover kit, my criteria being to retain the comfort, reduce the ride height slightly and improve cornering composure. This is their reply: "Thanks for getting in touch with us. The HSD Dualtech kit is the closest to OEM comfort as it retains a twin tube damper design much like the OEM item on your car. These are very slightly firmer than OEM suspension but do still ride very well and will help with some corning stability. At the highest this kit can be set to the car will be around25-30mm lower than standard so this does sound like it will be ideal for what you need. https://www.driftworks.com/hsd-dualtech-coilovers-lexus-ls400-ucf10-20.html If you do need any more help on this please let me know." The research continues............... -
The thing is that shocks will not affect the steering feel the same way those LCA bushings will so it's different. When I swapped my stock suspension for coilovers, it improved the overall feeling as the car was less boat-like. It eliminated a fair chunk of body roll, so going into a corner obviously feels better and the car feels more planted and you have a better idea of where the front wheels are. I want to get those HardRace LCA bushes as well as they're meant to stiffen up the steering. I'd like the steering to be a bit heavier, which generally can be adjusted through the ECU since it's electric but nobody really tunes these cars.
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These cars are pretty bullet proof engine and gearbox are good for some huge mileages so not a problem, bodywork is good, chassis suffers from surface rust but usually treatable, main dealer parts can be expensive but plenty of aftermarket suppliers, most cars will need exhaust replacing at 10 + years old and often shock absorbers though at £300 a corner a set of coilovers may be the way to go,abs rings seem to be coming up a lot recently but £200 at an indi or £25 if you can DIY, finally a good service history is better than a lower mileage these are just my opinions and hopefully far more knowledgeable people will answer your post, good luck whatever you decide 😀
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SPRINGS REPLACEMENT, IS F SPORT ONESTHE SAME AS SE-L TYPES?
H3XME replied to ahmed-abrar's topic in Brakes & Suspension
They are 10mm lower.. I'd suggest going for TEIN FLEX Z coilovers. They are £780 so way cheaper than replacement shocks & new springs.. + added adjustability. Unlike cheap coilovers, they are actually very comfortable, and with damping adjustability you can have it just as soft as factory suspension. And for the ride height, you can be as high or even a bit higher than factory suspension too, so there is really no downside. https://coilovers.co.uk/brand/tein/tein-flex-z-coilovers-lexus-is250-gse20l-2006-2013.html -
Just an update on the VX I purchased, so far so good! Had coilovers installed recently, hope the link works. https://ibb.co/590x1Wx
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Got it done mate…bc coilovers. Drives fine
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ISF Owners in Scotland or North England
Cactus replied to preston6566's topic in Lexus F Club - Lexus IS-F / GS-F / RC-F Club
@preston6566 near gosforth race course, a few miles north of city centre off the A1. is MY2010. I guess the only downside is that my car is not stock, has coilovers, aftermarket exhaust and bushings. barry
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