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Thanks, yes I did get a handover which included the boot items but they were all wrapped in plastic so the problems with sizes, shapes etc weren’t apparent. I can go back and ask them about this but I thought I’d get a more useful answer from other users here!

Let's hope they fix it for you - it's the sort of thing that can drive you POTTY!

Thankyou! Car is with dealers now, I will post an update when a solution to my specific issue is found, so others can check this out.

As others have pointed out, the 12v battery does not have the capacity that one would have fitted to ICE cars. I found this out the hard way when fitting front & rear dash cams during which I found myself locked inside the car on 2 occasions. Yes, before the battery fully depletes it goes in to “protect” mode and locks the car. Not fun having to climb from the front seat through to the boot to be able to use the manual release. The low capacity 12v battery works fine though after leaving the car for 3 weeks at an airport so I guess it does what it is designed to do & now I know what its limitations are I plan accordingly, it doesn’t really present any hardship.

To this. In a week

https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/news/rac-news/how-the-rac-universal-spare-wheel-fixes-no-spare-breakdowns/ I had no idea these existed, good to know.

Does not have to be an official recorded safety issue recall. Nothing to stop a manufacturer having a non safety recall for whatever they want, doesn't have to be an "official" recorded one, but in reality they avoid as best they can to save the costs.

Good spot on the steering wheel. Hmm I like your idea about radar. I had heard later 430s had it. Dont remeber a factory option for this, could it be aftermarket?

In my experience I get 3-5 mpg more with premium. That said, not all premium is the same. Esso used to be the best for mpg before they stopped zero ethanol, now Shell seems to be marginally better. Typically on mixed driving I get around 30/32 on premium and 27/29 on regular. That said, driving style makes a lot difference, especially on long motorway runs. I find 60-65mph to be the sweet spot, and on a run over to France got an average of 40 mpg at that kind of speed. Funnily enough it rarely makes any difference to journey time, as the slower speed is mitigated by less slowing down for other drivers and then speeding up again, whih of course burns more fuel when accelerating. At 60-65 I find that sometimes I can maintain a constant speed for most of the journey with hardly ever having to touch the brakes.

I thought I'd share my experiences having picked up my NX450h+ a couple of days ago. I'm the second owner, the first being a different Lexus dealership who pre-registered the car in late September 2023, so 4 months ago. 35 miles on the clock when I collected it. No second key fob, just the manual key. Their description of when I'd get the 2nd key fob was completely in line with the latest news on this forum. I was also told the "priority order" is based on chassis number, so mine should be coming soon despite only just buying the car. I was also told they will use my address for the letter as the registered owner of the car. I asked about locking wheel nuts/bolts. They hadn't thought of this, but having checked there were none in the car, he said they had been sent a few sets, so it was also supplied and fitted while I was doing all the paperwork. Impressive. The car came with a paper copy of the manual. My fuel flap is sticky. As a result they've ordered a new one and it will be fitted for me in a week or so while I wait So - all in all a good experience so far, and I really like the car.

Just wondering what other peoples experience has been regarding the provision of the 2nd Key for their NX450h+. I took delivery of my car on 8th June 2023 but still no update from the dealership as to when the second key will be available. Are new cars now coming through with 2 keys ? Thanks Graham

It is indeed a game of cat and mouse. But Lexus/Toyota seem to have given up, effectively leaving whole generations of cars easily stolen. Whereas JLR are spending £10m to retrofit older vehicles with better security.

Generally when you pull off and come to stop. A single clunk. Once it happens it won't happen again until you do the opposite motion i.e stop or start.

Cost was almost identical to my Lexus. 😱

Spare wheel isn't ideal if you have a family and the boot is full. I've no issue in purchasing a spare wheel and keeping it into he garage, In all my years all my flats have been while at home obviously from a nail the night before. But I'm not fan of the sealant gunk it's just a shame in the is300h the battery takes up the boot space. I will also admit I've never had breakdown cover in the 25 years of driving what can ever wrong in the Toyota/Lexus 🤣 but in my view that is the middle ground.

I would similarly have issues about paying more for less! The cheapest car is almost always the one you own already - with the potential for a Relax warranty until 10 years / 100k miles, is there any reason to change? If you’re looking at other brands, have you considered the Toyota Yaris Cross? It’s due a small facelift/refresh (already out for Yaris) and could be a good and much cheaper option in top spec trim…. https://www.toyota.co.uk/new-cars/yaris-cross/premiere-edition

I have a test drive booked at the end of the month. The car looks impressive, and the reviews are excellent, but the initial PCP numbers I’ve been given aren’t encouraging…I’d end up paying over £100 more per month than on my current RX deal! I know that’s because the world has changed since 2021 when I bought mine, both in terms of interest rates and trade in values. I also know that I got a huge discount for the RX at purchase, and there don’t seem to be any discounts on the LBX at the moment, nor are there any finance offers. Why would there be to be fair, as it’s a brand new model. What has depressed me is the staggering drop in value for my RX over the past six months, one can only assume because of theft/insurance issues affecting desirability. Anyway, I’ll go and look at the LBX as it may be a future contender. For now I can’t see why I’d downsize and pay more, which offsets increased insurance on the RX. One other thing. I’ve looked at a couple of other brands - one premium, one not - and both dealers offered significantly more for my RX than Lexus have! That’s disappointing, but may be resolved with a bit of a haggle. One option is the new MINI Countryman which I’ll drive in March. Looking in the showroom, it’s more practical than the LBX, helpfully cheaper for a like for like spec (£4k approx), and has an impressive and high quality interior. At the other end of the scale I’ve been impressed by the Skoda Kamiq, which is £10k cheaper than the Lexus for the top model, and as I’m now doing fewer than 5k miles a year may well be a good ‘value’ alternative.

I heard on BBC Radio news earlier that the boss of JLR has been defending the security of Range Rovers following reports of ‘soaring’ insurance costs. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/jaguar-land-rover-stolen-insurance-cost-b2489922.html

I also did not get any EU safety kit but had one from previous car. Important to note that it must be accessible within the car. If you have luggage, then under the boot would be illegal, certainly in Spain. Also soon needed is a led flasher that can be placed on the roof in place of the yellow triangles. That, at least is less trouble than having the warning triangles under your feet. Some English speaking Garda run an excellent website advising U.K. drivers : https://n332.es/tag/warning-triangles/

I've encountered this with several LCs. Just be warned that Lexus tend to fix it and the noise returns. Hopefully the attached will help.

I think an issue might be that the Patrol Van has none left on his day's endeavour maybe ............ having used them all-up prior to getting your call I think i would still want to carry one if at all possible Malc

oh, wow, that one has gone already then. Just goes to show if priced right they will sell. I didn't think the one I have bought had ML, as don't think it was mentioned in the ad. Wouldn't have stopped me buying it personally, but it was a bonus when I got there and saw it did have it after all. Good luck in your search.

I've often wondered what the empty slots are for on my more modest 300h. On checking my manual just now, there is section that shows what goes where (some of it is optional on my model year). I have learned that we can stow the parcel shelf (luggage cover) under the floor. 🙂 The manual for your model (around page 334) has some information, but it is quite vague (see image below). 😐 It does confirm on the page after this that you can also stow the luggage cover too (as long as you haven't stuffed all those extra cables in a bag I guess?!).

Well, today I did a thing... so much for buying a red one 2023 Sports Plus with black interior and ML sound system, and less than 2K on the clock

I assume that you meant to type quiet. Bosch are almost certainly the best. They may also be the most expensive. But if you buy cheap you buy twice!

i got sent a really weird way by satnav recently and ended up struggling down tiny country lanes-is there a setting on satnav that these can be avoided ?and is it better to use fastest route or shortest route?i dont have a phone with internet or ipads or anything so i cant use apps

Likewise. I kept the cables in the bag (bit of a wrestle to get them in!) and stored them in the boot. Eventually put them below the boot floor without the bag but also got fed up getting them out and in so they are back in the bag in the boot! Certainly didn't get a European safety kit and guess this must be a requirement now.

It is either severely discharged or faulty - you should expect to see between 12.6 - 12.8 v when fully charged. I'd certainly expect it to read higher after 80 mins of charging, but that might not be enough to fully charge it, depending on how flat it started out at. I assume you don't have a battery charger to fully charge it up? If not you don't actually need to drive the vehicle, you can just leave it in 'Ready' mode for it to charge the battery - turn off the heating system so the petrol engine doesn't fire up all the time to keep the cabin warm.

According the manual also your TPMS sensors are at risk when using sealant. All in all using it can be quite costly and the stuff does not always work.

Millers petrol Power Ecomax

same here, safety kit is too big to fit under the boot cover. just sloppy design, not "takumi" (artisan) in my view 🙂

Yes tyre shops hate tyre sealant and I know fir a fact they refuse to deal with a customer whose used it. I speak from the experience of a few friends. The space saver wheel fits all four corners.

The one on the left has no rear view mirror and ha the extra hole in the bumper.

Wot a pair of beauties 👍 Malc

On the plus side the longer contract you can get the more you save. The new contract price is fixed for the term, on current day prices. My final major service of a three year term is due in March and will be a decent saving when comparing the increases over the last 3 years. Hopefully I will be able to push for a new 3year with an interest free, monthly direct debit.

As above the Hybrid system will manage the charge status and not something to worry about. When at the minimum charge (something like 20%) the engine will start (if not already running) and recovers to max normal (something like 80%) within a few miles of driving. You'll only ever get to 100% after extended braking.

Don't bother giving it a thought. It sorts itself out. Mine is rarely 'fully charged', only after a long mountain descent. The system doesn't allow it get too low either, just diverts power generated by the engine to charge the battery if needed. One of those rare things that just 'works'. Enjoy your purchase!

It isn't - it's a rushed compliance car that is woefully uncompetitive. Even The Car Care Nut on YouTube, who couldn't be anymore pro Toyota/Lexus, said it wasn't a good car.

Hi Lisa, I had exactly the same problem on my UX, ended up changing my password to have no capitals on the Lexus app on my home computer then starting afresh in the car and it sorted it. Note that was on the pre-Lexus plus app. Worth a try?

are they THE Flint Stones ? Malc

The same people voted for Rishi who voted for Liz, Boris, David, Gordon and Tony - their local parliamentary constituencies. We do not have a presidential system. We elect local MPs. The MP who can command the confidence of House of Commons becomes PM - that would usually be the leader of the largest political party there. I do agree though with earlier posts - we’ve given up expecting proper behaviour. Personally I’d pull everyone over with an illegal tint, number plate, loud exhaust etc. The same goes for throwing the book at everyone carrying knives, burglary, theft etc. People need to respect the law again - but I fear it’s going to get much worse before it gets better.

Take a lesson from this - even the pictures are black and white ( mostly ) and really .......yawn..... Goodnight. I am thinking of proposing this chap - John Burke - as honorary member. He certainly knows how to make boring things even more mundane - My hero! Any more trouble from you lot and there's more where this came from! See Below if you can stay awake.. The Roman Road up Blackstone Edge, Littleborough Lancashire In 1982 I was freelance writing for magazines and for a year or two around this time had a fairly regular series in Lancashire Magazine called John Burke's Curious Lancashire. In each article I would focus on seven different curiosities - old village pumps, reminders of witchcraft, stocks in churchyards and so on. Anything that was a reminder of times gone by. In April 1982 I parked the car up on the moors above Littleborough near Rochdale. I was born and raised in Rochdale and whilst it has been in Greater Manchester since 1974, it is still in Lancashire the geographical region as far as I'm concerned. I started to climb up the hill from the car. Even in 1982 when I was much younger and shaped somewhat like a racing snake I was soon out of breath before I had reached the curiosity I had come to see. The gradient here is a hefty one in four - for every four feet horizontally, you climb one foot upwards. The Romans were renowned for taking the shortest route. They wouldn't spend time and money building roads round hills - they just went straight up them and over. And this is a Roman road. Getting on for 2000 years old. Better preserved the farther you climb - because once it became no more than a curiosity, people knackered themselves walking up, saw it and turned back I presume! There's a good view looking down at any rate! In this photo we are looking straight down over Littleborough to Rochdale and beyond. On the left is local beauty spot, Hollingworth Lake. Where the road can be seen curving round on the right of the photo - that's where I had left the car... It was impressive. As you get to the better preserved parts you see kerb stones at the edge of the road and a massive gutter in the centre. It may have been just a drainage channel - it does rain a bit at times in Lancashire... It has also been suggested that it could have been to take a brake. I found it tiring enough just walking up on my own. Animals pulling heavy carts or wagons would need a rest going up and would need something to take the weight of the cart or they would be pulled backwards. Carts coming down would need to be held back or the poor animals would be pushed down the hill and crushed by their own loads. Anyway I was impressed enough to return at a later date with colour film in the camera. I've often thought about going back. But perhaps I'll just have another look at these photos... Ah yes... that will do nicely!

Hello fellow SC430 owners. I'm just an SC430 owner snooping the internet. The footwell lights are T5 LED and not T10. You will need needle nose pliers to pull out the old bulb. The base matters a lot. I originally did a plastic base and resembled the halogen base. Problem was it was a tiny bit wider so I had to trim it up. I did a rough job so the light eventually blew. I ended up buying a base that looked like a chip and it worked well. I hope this helps.

M&S published an illustrated book of the second world war, we had a copy but it went missing. In the centrefold is a large double spread picture of him and his two surviving pals being rescued by the Americans from the jungle. He is Sergeant Lewis Marshall. He lost a few teeth and a lot of weight but after eating insects and vermin for 3 months it is not surprising.

My Uncle was a chindit and was lost in the Burmese jungle for 3 months. It took us years to get the story out of him. You really could write a book about what happened to him and his pals. Great man - very quiet!

Sounds like Harry Brown. Quite a good film with Michael Caine as a retired "green beret?" who does not tolerate the local deadlegs.

In fairness this is nothing to do with Sunak who intellectually is probably the most suitable Pm we have had since Thatcher. Shame so many of his colleagues are not equipped to butter a muffin. No, this is a lot more than that. It's a modern society bombarded by 'noise', technological change. time pressures, that frankly 'winds' people up to a pitch where they behave in a manner where normal rules of behaviour are just 'parked' in the ignore zone. Examples, a friend of my daughters pursued by a very normal looking woman in a car who 'thought' she had 'dissed' her out of a parking spot. Literally waited for the girl to come back out of a store and then followed her 'buzzing' her. WTF ! Zebra crossings, just lost count of the times I am on the crossing with the dog and cars just keep coming through...so my question is where is the drivers attention? Are they looking and ignoring, or are they just totally out of it focused on the pressing need to be somewhere a few seconds faster. I could cite many more examples of people just behaving beyond the pale ,but really why bother when it's just all around us virtually everyday.

“In the relentless pursuit of perfection” Not satisfied with anything less, allegedly only being at the number 2 position of the most stolen vehicles in the UK are Lexus trying to get to the top spot in this category too I wonder? They have however apparently already received the top accolade for the most stolen hybrid vehicle. UK consumer law states “ Goods must be of satisfactory quality” and “Fit for purpose” Personally I would not consider an easily stolen motor vehicle to meet either of these criteria.

Oh man! I'm so happy! I just put fabric tape on the striker....and ..the sound,....it's....GONE! Last nuisance was the rear cup holder. When opened, no problem, when closed; rattle. Removed rubber cap above philips head screws at the bottom of the cup holder. Unscrewed and removed cup holder. If you look at the back, you'll see that the chrome release button makes another plastic part pivot just a little to release the lid. That part is loose, I wedged a little fabric tape on both sides and also put some front and rear of the chrome button. Now that too is silenced. I will sleep like a baby tonight

Hi Tim, your experience is almost identical to mine. Sounds the same and we've tried the same things.... However, I currently have it sorted by my dealership... They identified the problem as being caused by the tailgate needing tightening against the striker. They also put some fabric tape around the striker, and, so far so good... not a creak in 2 months - including a long trip to Cornwall and back. I've declared it resolved, and at least have a very good idea where to go if it happens again. Hope that helps you. Let me know!