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The problem is not capitalism itself but how unfairly its being applied. If the government says motor insurance is compulsory it must make provisions to ensure even lower income groups are able to afford at least some basic level of cover. E.g. education is compulsory but everyone gets to go to a local school for free and if they have the money they're free to opt for private schools. Unlike Australia, no such option here when it comes to insurance. Its compulsory plus you have to buy it from the greedy cartel. The government must provide at least basic third party insurance for a nominal fee or as part of the rip off VEDtax they charge us annually. On one hand you have inelastic demand and on the other thand you dont have options. You might argue that transportation is not a basic need but to some it is..many rely on their vehicles to be able to earn an income due to lack of or poor public transport.

Actually it was the other way round, ie stopping new customers getting better deals than existing customers.

Map updates can only be done by a dealer. Updates via dealers are foc for 3 years. Mine goes in on Thursday to have the latest maps installed, I’ll let you know how it goes

Ooh the level of judgement. You shall refrain from further participation? Ooh no! we're going to miss out on all the condescending comments. Its laughable that you think you're better than others because you drive a Lexus. Goes to show the size of the peanut where your idea if your "expertise" comes from. Also since you're such an award winning expert on commerce you should know these business are all intertwined. The best example is AIG that tanked and was bailed out at taxpayers expense. But you already know that since you're a baller award winning, lexus driving, rolex wearing commerce expert 🤣

So how did we go from Insurance companies to Banks? Look I expect this level of naivety and lack of understanding of commerce from some people. I just did not expect to find it here amongst people who are equipped to find themselves behind the wheel of a Lexus. I shall refrain from further participation .

I really feel for our vegan neighbours and the hardships they must endure!

Todays modest purchase. Two keys but no keyring!

Lexus likes to have its cake and eat it with leather options. It costs £ 1,900 to take a Premium Plus grade from Tahara plastic to Semi-Aniline leather, but you get £ 0 back if you downgrade a Takumi grade from Semi-Aniline leather to Tahara plastic.

Personally I find the sound system superb. I play everything from classical to heavy metal and have tuned the bass to my preference. My only irritation is radio broadcast companies using any old crap recorded on a smartphone or over a dodgy internet connection. Studio news readers are loud and clear but their interviewees may as well be Martians. I can't blame the car system for that! I've coupled mine to an Android Dongle and use Amazon music. Sounds great. Don't ask Miss Google to play a certain track of music though, results are a lottery!

Also 2010 version around £208 delivered, eBay was also offering 10 discount voucher earlier today, looks like a great deal

We'll just come round your house when we need to look up a job!

400 euros is a bit steep after all then.

as above. It should only be used to avoid fumes in your garage or being quiet as you arrive/leave your house in the early hours. Forcing EV mode normally results in worse fuel consumption compared to just letting the vehicle do its thing. The cancelling of the mode depends on throttle, temperature, battery state of charge and speed.

Depends on a multitude of factors. Let the car do it's thing. No real benefit to using EV mode apart from if you want to travel in stealth

Fuel pump failure leading to cut out of the engine whilst being driven which is seen as a safety issue, hence an official recall. Owners would have been contacted if their vehicle was in-scope, but you can double check here: https://www.lexus.co.uk/owners/about-my-lexus/vehicle-recall

I agree about the plates - The original plates were a copy of those used to prevent car jacking in South Africa. If there is some enhancement perhaps it's thicker gauge steel in another manufacturing run? I'm not totally convinced that encryption can't be added in software for at least few critical commands (such as "correct key present"). To me the idea of trading in a 4RX for a 5RX sounds like a triumph of hope over experience!

Took me ages to find it! About 15 minutes in…..

I have the Levinson one in my Takumi and to be honest it is wasted on me. I have always wondered if a high spec sound system in a car is a waste of money anyway unless you are stationary, all the background noise even in a quiet car must drown out all the discrete tones and quality. Bill D.

Sure that only applies when you are not a bank or financial institution. Else everything flies. If you're a bank then you're free to do whatever...tank the economy at taxpayers expense gamble away like its a giant casino. Do whatever when you have friends who are bureaucrats and policy makers. Laws apply only to us regular people. Also when I say cartel obviously it's a metaphor. These companies have the best lawyers money can buy and often find grey areas.

Had the same problem as Gaazzared with the map update massage on my NX4050 since I took delivery in August 23. Just collected it from the dealer for the third time of trying to correct it and after having the vehicle two days, exactly the same, they don't seem to have a clue. I agree that if I am on the latest version, it should say so not produce an error message. I am now waiting a response from Lexus.

I was at a car show back in 2017 at Knebworth and Lexus has a display of their latest models, I sat in all the cars and was asked to do a questionnaire…..my reward was a genuine keyring 😎…….anyway I went back 3 times (different salesmen)😁😁 One went on my previous SC430, have one on my current car and one in reserve for a future Lexus 😉

Hello, I was in the process of purchasing a replacement battery for my LS600hl. I have the original Panasonic which is 13 years old! Please note, it is not just about what size fits, it has to be an AGM AND have the built in sensor, this is really important (just can't remember what the sensor does, but it is to do with the hybrid battery!) I would go and get it purchased from the dealer only, free next day delivery, you are then not taking any risks and have peace of mind. In the end my original battery was fine and new one not required, even Halfords, who love to sell you stuff could not supply me a battery.lol

I only really wanted the facelift Wiring Diagram one which you can buy new here: 2007 Lexus SC 430 Wiring Diagrams Schematics Layout Factory OEM | eBay So as the Dragon's say..................... "I'm out".

I wouldn't call you names . Just deluded.😉 Seriously if you wish to have an argument based upon accountancy let's do it. However, don't construct partial arguments that I can drive a bus through such as " +10% for labour for example, you can't increase the price +60% on the basis of labour costs". Moreover, if you have assumed that is what I was saying you just did not read what I said carefully enough. Labour costs are just one piece of the multi faceted reasons why premiums are rising and indeed are probably not the most significant part of the issue. Do I need to make any further clarification? If I sound tecthy it's because I really do not like being 'quoted' when I am being misquoted. So, if you are going to quote me please do me the courtesy of being accurate.

Some injector cleaner, quality 99ron petrol and an italian tuneup might help but I'd guess using the Relax warranty and getting Lexus to check the injectors would be the best option.

Yeah, this. My insurers required a Tracker so I added an immobiliser for an extra £100, plus a windscreen sticker instead of flashing leds, plus I use a Milenco steering wheel lock when away from home. Not a deal breaker but be aware extra security is essential for peace of mind. Sounds like you know exactly what you're after stating a 17/18 model - the pre GPF exhaust! They're utterly fantastic cars, you won't be disappointed.

Quick enlarge and brighten of rear of the car, its has twin after market exhaust boxes fitted…should sound nice without being over the top . That got to be worth £300-500 to the vehicles value.

This thread would be a good read to get familiar with the SC430 👍🏻 The 2005 model you show above looks very tidy and presentable, parking sensors front and rear are a nice extra . Last years mot test commented on a rusty rear exhaust, I can see in the photos, it has an aftermarket stainless steel rear exhaust section (or maybe the whole thing)..you would need to ask to be sure . cracked tyres want replacing before you buy . The grey wheel refurbishment looks out of keeping with the car, so would look better back to silver. Interior looks very clean for its age and cream does take more effort to maintain over black. few cracks in the leather on the drivers seat , nothing a leather dye treatment wouldn’t fix . Ask the dealer if it’s had a timing belt and water pump . price is rather top heavy, yet good quality example can ask their own price . as I say have a read of this thread and you’ll be an expert …or at least an armchair expert 😁😉

I thought it was endoscopy?😖. What a pain in the butt.

I bought a car cover for the SC 430, but it isn't in use that much. I found it led to condensation (so much for breathability). Hence, I got into the habit of taking it off very regularly and drying off the car. I would still use it selectively, but not in any continuous sense. In fact, the instructions that come with it do advise taking it off once a week.

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It's in for painting at the moment Malc.

That was for the series I NX which had three audio grades. The current NX only has two grades, both good quality with separate amps and a sub.

Check out the posts re the Can Bus issue too.

Premium + sonic gray + ammonite sand

Thanks for the comments. Ironically, many of my neighbours and local friends have had Range Rovers and RXs stolen in the last few years, and even a couple of mavericks with X5s. (I was going to say 'everyone I know with a Range Rover has had a theft'; it isn't quite true but not far off). So I was aware of the problem both from this forum and experience, but I actually said to myself while sitting at the dealer "an LC will be fine, these thefts are all for SUVs that can be exported to Africa / E Europe, nobody will want to go yomping through the dunes in a V8 coupe". I shall be learning from my mistake and ordering a Nissan Combi van as a replacement. Haven't had anything from the insurers yet but I'm expecting they'll offer me trade bids, for something that sells with a big dealer spread. I've also written to Lexus UK but nothing will come of that, though I was clear that I won't be buying another (we've had four or five Lexus over the years) and I'll be telling everyone I know the same. I agree with the suggestions above about putting a hidden isolator switch into the fuel pump or similar, and wish I had done it, and will do on all my future cars. A few hundred pounds work at a competent garage to save a lot of aggravation, plus 50p for a sticker in the wheel arch saying 'tough luck, suckers'.

So you can disarm the alarm and unlock the doors.

Wouldn't want to name the particular dealer - you'll be able to narrow it down from the county I am in, but sadly have similar, slightly negative experiences to some of the above posters. I've had my current car for coming up to 2 years now, and it's not exactly new (55 reg LS430) but I have done all the servicing exclusively at my local Lexus centre during this time. Three visits, two services (including a major one), and a total spend close to £2,500, if you include minor bits like wipers, etc. On several occasions I've asked the dealer for a quote for some further work on the car, or had a quote presented to me following a service to address some of the "negatives" they have spotted, and each time this wasn't followed up, or they would simply not call me back or reply to an email I have sent their representative, even though I am quite literally offering them extra business. Another time I was promised a call back to clarify something I considered they haven't addressed during the major service, and yet again - silence. At the same time, the main franchise agent (who I am guessing oversees the local Lexus dealer) would bombard me with calls to have the MOT booked with them. What baffles me is that every time I visit the dealership they are extremely welcoming and courteous, hands down the best customer experience I've had, and the people at this particular dealer are genuinely very lovely, yet the aftercare is somewhat lacking. Could this be down to the age of my car? I am not sure how much value / profit they are able to get out of a customer like me, but surely having the car serviced with them regularly should be valuable to them, the LS servicing costs are not exactly cheap to us, are they? Just my two cents.. 🙂

Don't mention the war.I mentioned it once and I think I got away with it.....

That's the same a UX pricing. The LBX is the same size as the Yaris Cross, not the C-HR which is UX sized.

I just bought a 300h f sport 2014, I was driving a 2018 kia ceed 1.6 derv. Been with LV for years and they have been very good but best price with them was £575 but i did some searches online and just did it from 20 march with the rac at £277, im 60 with full no claims so it pays to shop around

Good Evening All. Lexus are a car company they make and sell cars. Last February My AMG Mercedes E43 was stolen. The car was equipped with Scorpion S5 Tracker Immobiliser. The tracker was working for two days post theft. The police did not attend so the car was not recovered. My Insurance paid out and I brought a Lexus RX. I have previously owned an IS 220 and a GS 250. It was my experience with these that influenced my choice of car. I had no idea of the theft problem. My insurance doubled. I then start looking on this forum. I discover why my insurance was so high. Too late I own the car. As I stated Lexus Make & sell cars. While I agree they must bear some responsibility for the venerability of my car. They have fitted the protection plates by the way. I think the Police must also take a large part of the responsibility. Even when they are being told where a stolen car is THEY DONT EVEN ATTEND. Car thief's can go about there business for the most part unmolested by the Police. For me it is quite simple. If you see a Lexus driving at night with the nearside head light not working. IT HAS BEEN STOLEN. What are the Police doing?

Where do i start with a response to this? First place is, there is a reason their prices are going up. Indeed ,more than one reason. Labour costs have risen as they usually do when core inflation is rising. Theft and and the unexpected costs of EV insurance claims have risen. Now as to profit. Insurance is and has been for a long time a very competitive business sector. As such it's been virtually impossible for any company to both compete and make profits not in line with the sector. Last time I checked the ROCE employed for listed UK insurance comapnies was not that impressive so guess profiteering was not working out for them. I realise writing what appears to be a defence of Insurance companies is not going to buy me much love given the inflationary cycle we are in, but I still find it hard to let unbalanced viewpoints go unchallenged.

Well finally picked up my nice Pearlescent white UX today, they gave me a tank of fuel and I spoke to the sales manager and told him I wasn’t very happy regarding the cockup, he looked about 12 years old ( is that my age ) anyway he blamed it on Listers, just have to learn all the bits and bobs , IE BSM, LTS and lots of others, connected CarPlay would have been nice to have wireless but ha-ho , had £400 unused from service plan so only £17 a month for next 2 services and MOT’s so that’s 3 years covered as just serviced and had it’s first MOT ( bonus ), much easier to get in and out of. Dell

Being new to Lexus ownership I had high hopes for the 10 year warranty, but was slightly sceptical. Had to take my newly acquired RCF to Lexus Edinburgh, having not noticed on purchasing that only cold air was coming out on the passenger side. Additionally, drivers seatbelt wasn't retracting too well. It was a private purchase, but with full DSH. Superb dealer experience really well looked after and no charge for diagnosis. The entire passenger heater box needs to be replaced, along with the seatbelt. Non warranty cost is £3k ! Covered in full, without hesitation, subject to taking a couple of weeks to get the parts. Shows the value in dealer servicing, especially as these cars age.

If you like it that’s good but I’d rather have something a bit more substantial like the moulded things you get in most other cars. There’s a lot of noise comes from the boot and it would help keep it out.

I remember when i bought the car Don i had watched lots of YouTube vids and i watched Melissa at Northfield Texas show you how to easily fold it. I've never had it out of the bag since i put it back in it. Lol.

It’s nasty tat really Brent, not at all worthy of a Lexus in my opinion. There are much better designs than that on very ordinary cars. I use mine most of the time and can fold it dead easy now.

Easiest thing is to have the wing mirrors on auto so they fold when you lock it, obvious to see then it's locked/alarmed.