Official New 2006 Is Topic

[PhoneDrome]

Now I'll ask this here:

Which one looks better:

The murder is out. It's the IS :D beyond all question

[Monster-Mat]

The arse does the talking, the rest is just not worthy..

I'm sure it will grow on me... Wonder if they do a Japanese Altezza model :D

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no they wont, all new Lexus are just that Lexus, none are based on any Toyota platforms, as an entity Lexus is a company in its own right now, and has its own Factory

obviously still owned by Toyota Corp,

[Monster-Mat]

Andi can you get a head on View of the old IS200 and put it with the new IS250.

the A pillars/windscreen and roof line look identical to the "Classic" IS200

[Lexxy_703]

Well! looked and then looked agian,and again

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I quite like it.It's just like Cadbury's Roses

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It grows on you

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sure does! i wasn't too sure from the 1st set of pics but now i've seen others aswell & given them a good check out - i like lots! :D

now as i'm a bit of a numpty , could somebody pls explain in laymans (or should that be layWoman's ;) ) terms what this actually means for performance/driving experience???

new IS250 - 400nm @ 2000-2400 RPM

against my current IS300 - 288nm @ 3800 RPM

how can the diff in torque be THAT much!! is the new one a rocket ship?? or am i missing something (apart from a techincal side to my brain!) as i said, forgive me for driving a Lex & not knowing basic stuff like this...

[aido]

The diesel will basically pull much better in lower gears, to be honest I guess it means on an auto you wouldn't need kick down as much and on a manual you could leave it in higher gears and it would always pull - mine feels like she's going to stall sometimes if I try pulling away at 2000 rpm

And as for the mods, they've already started !

[PhoneDrome]

Andi can you get a head on View of the old IS200 and put it with the new IS250.

the A pillars/windscreen and roof line look identical to the "Classic" IS200

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My car looks very old

But you can see, that the new IS has some influence of the old one.

[Lexxy_703]

whoops! even worse - i didn't realise they were the diesel figures i was quoting... :iraqi-info-minister:

i never paid much attention in skool either!!

thanks for explaining aido :ooh-ducky:

[Risky3301]

Now I'll ask this here:

Which one looks better:

The murder is out. It's the IS  :D  beyond all question

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At least BMW designers know how to flow a body line, Lexus designers don't, look at the bonnet line on the IS in relation to the front grill line, it does not flow, it's jagged line. Now look at the Bonnet line to the line by the headlight on the BMW. The body line flows from begin to end

[PhoneDrome]

The broken line is a styling element. You see it all over the new IS. Even headlights, rear door, rear light and so on. It's for getting a bit more live into the design.

If they weren't there everybody whould say, that it's to waveless and clean.

[Steve ( West Mids )]

Where's the video?

[Risky3301]

The broken line is a styling element. You see it all over the new IS. Even headlights, rear door, rear light and so on. It's for getting a bit more live into the design.

If they weren't there everybody whould say, that it's to waveless and clean.

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Not sure I agree, the front looks unbalanced and looks like a 1st year student done the design. All classic designs have flowing lines. The look of the new IS doesn't flow.

[aido]

Go here mate for the Lexus video from the Geneva launch:

http://www.lexus-europe.com/about_lexus/ne...ts/geneva_4.asp

[ColinBarber]

GS vs IS

[bigsul]

i dont like the wood either, i dont like wood in cars full stop, doesnt make it feel luxury to me, just makes me feel like im in an old mans car.

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Bang on. Wood out Man!

Back end, and instruments are okay. Front is pant's, those wing mirrors?

[ifraz]

I'm really liking it.

I think it's a definite improvment on the current IS.

[dark_is200]

It looks like a Toyota / Scion tC with 4 doors and Lexus badges:

[LEX200sport]

Not too keen personally. Squint a bit and it looks like a Mazda 6, with an Accord/Alfa rear end.

Saying that it must be so difficult to design a car that looks like no other on the market though.

And I can also see a Hyundai Coupe theme going on. Anyone else see this, or is it just me?

[Damer]

Hmm watched part of the launch video from Geneva. Looks better in that than the stills. Q is would you buy it over a BMW/Merc/Audi which is what made me buy my first IS ....hmm...maybe

[Monster-Mat]

well it doesnt matter if we like it of not, cars in production ........like a load of old laydees.

its called moving on, yes the "Classic" IS200 was great, this is the next thing along,

and i still think it looks great :D

[Whitebeam]

For those worried about the wood, the Press Release says 'optional' so I assume standard will be plastic or more brushed metal.

[Mitch]

matt have you heard anything about any IS coupes/drop tops??? would be more interested in a coupe as think back door looks really big for some reason

[rhosneigr]

Reserving judgement until seen in the flesh. But I don't like those door mirrors and is that a handle for manually operating the moon roof above the interior mirror.

[lexicon]

At least BMW designers know how to flow a body line, Lexus designers don't, look at the bonnet line on the IS in relation to the front grill line, it does not flow, it's jagged line. Now look at the Bonnet line to the line by the headlight on the BMW. The body line flows from begin to end

Well each to his own but I think the BMW looks like someone sawed it up and then glued it back together - but not quite in the right place.

I like the new IS except:

The front looks a little "pinched" - like the grill is too narrow.

The interior looks very nice but just a little plain - the old interior was distinctive (if not everyone's cuppa).

The mirrors look like they came off an SUV or something - they are friggin huge.

New rear lights are quite nice (if a little Alfa/Peugeot) - Want to see them lit up. I guess they are LED?

[lexicon]

is that a handle for manually operating the moon roof above the interior mirror.

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It looks like one of those where the roof opens in proportion to how far you turn the knob round (but still electric).

Can't seem 'em fitting a manual roof.

[nickjwarman]

to be honest i'll have to agree with the sentiment that it doesn't have me running for my cheque book like the old one did.

However, the 350 could be well worth while. Whats the release date on that?