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Will shortly be joining this section of the LOC as I am scheduled to take delivery of a RX450h+ Premium Plus with panoramic roof next week. Currently have a 2022 NX450h+ Premium Plus with sunroof which in turn replaced a NX300h Luxury with panoramic roof. Have gone for Sonic Platinum with Ammonite Sand interior. Didn't particularly set out to go for the RX450h as I was actually considering a NX450h+ F-sport for the second half of this year, however I sat in an RX450h + in the showroom, was given a test drive and I was smitten! Look forward to future conversations and will post some pics!

It the press release is to be believed, following the one show on BBC recently… The link relates to a ‘new hardware security component’ to be made available across the range; details at your Lexus dealer from end April 2024. This is in addition to the security plates available for the 4th gen RX. https://mag.lexus.co.uk/lexus-uk-statement-on-vehicle-theft/

All included in the price of the car. £0.00 extra! However, I would expect them to at the very least include a coffee ☕️ 🙃, biscoff and any other freebies that they feel a Lexus owner deserves for having to wait so long. 🤔

I just upsized UX to NX. Collected the car last week and after 1 week, I should say it is a different world. The surrounding sound system is amazing, and how quiet the cabin is in comparison with UX. The car is driving in EV mode more than half of the time in town and over all I am getting 45MPG and on motorway it gave me 49MPG. The 14” screen is very quick and responsive and auto parking feature is fantastic. The tank is taking 65 litres which is giving 650miles. With UX I was going to petrol station more often as the tank was only 40 litres. No wonder WhatCar? rated UX 2 stars. In the show room I also saw 2 LBX which looked nicer than online pictures. Seems well built, inside looks very good and top quality. I think if anyone wants to buy UX consider buying LBX instead.

I was referring to the looks

@eightk here are some pics of mine (not the best pics out there). Took delivery on Friday and loving the car!

My dealer just phoned, the 2nd second key 🔑 has arrived. The🔒 🛞 nuts arrived a while ago but thought I'd get them both sorted together. After waiting since Nov '23 I'm booked in for an hour on Thursday. 😃

I insured mine with Lexus insurance.

Brilliant thanks! It's the homebase version of kallax that my wife wants.

I will do, I had such high hopes and plans for this boat it would be a shame to bin it off. 🤞 Everything remains the same and I'll do a premature trans fluid service this time next year to keep it stable. Still on the cards Wheels Exhaust needs sorting. It's a bit brash for my liking The rest of the sound system And of course timing belt!

Update: the app unknown status now has changed into view status and working alright.

Please do update us in say a month ………. either way ! Thanks Malc

You could ask hybridbatterysolutions and see what Richard think's of the model and mileage.

You could try Summertown Garage, Kidlington, they specialist in EV and Hybrids for a 2nd opinion.

Make sure you put the AC into recirculation mode before trying to replace the old cabin filter.

I really feel that Lexus Relax warranty should benefit used sales better including private sales but I very rarely see private sales up and none of the trade ads state "remainder of 10 year warranty". I also wonder if the potential LC buyer regardless of peace of mind of Lexus Relax prefers a non-private sale process which is a shame but then maybe now they are getting to ~40k we will see new buyers coming in - possibly willing to consider private sales.

@NEILJ I'm currently looking into an 09 RX450H and came across this thread. I found this youtube video for the same A pillar leak but on a RAV4. Might it be applicable to your situation?

I'm not aware of anyone else reporting this issue here - whilst oil seals don't last forever it seems like you are unlucky here. It's common for oil to be sprayed around as it comes out of a diff onto the rotating shafts and get flung out. The oil is quite thick when cold so it's unlikely to just seep out when the vehicle is stationary. I doubt it was overfilled - you fill it at the side and it starts to overflow when you reach the level required so you would almost purposely want to overfill it actually achieve it. Even if it is, the oil is essentially sealed within the diff - it cannot get out through the filler which has an airtight seal. Symptom of an overfilled diff is wear of the gears because if excessive aeration of the oil, not oil leaking out. It might be worth giving the diff area a degrease and see how quickly the oil comes back - if it's only very minor then you possibly could live with it but you would have to keep an eye on the oil level and it will likely get worse over time. The seal itself would be inexpensive - your quoted cost will therefore be mainly labour and at £200ish per hour it would be expensive to get it done at Lexus - any mechanic could do this job.

I'd suggest crawling under the car and giving everything a good wipe and then check again after a week or so.

The fact that the warranty is 15 years doesn't necessarily mean it will self destruct the day after it runs out lol! Perhaps you will get many more years out of it. Cheap enough car if it's in decent condition with another year or two of the warranty to run. The repair costs for our Lexus have been zilch since we have owned it, so I wouldn't think twice about putting a new Hybrid battery in after 15years should it be needed. Better the devil you know.

The Ghost immobiliser with stop the theft but not the 4K's worth of damage caused, but then i suppose this would be the same for all cars

I have just booked my MY22 ES in for the Can-bus protection plate to be fit next week. The dealership described the plate as having warning stripes on it. I have seen a picture of the RX plate but this sounds different , does anyone have a picture of the ES one? It is being fit free of charge with a curtesy car provided.

I do like that 'Ultimate Edition' plaque. More pics!

If you’re convinced it’s the Ghost, then maybe contact Autowatch directly? They don’t do installations themselves but may be aware of this problem. They’ll also confirm Model compatibility. Taking up Jon’s point about a healthy battery, it may also be worthwhile checking the battery condition. Did it drain easily before you had the Ghost and Tracker installed? If it’s the original battery it may well be approaching the end of its working life, depending on usage and maintenance.

You'd end up with the too small fold out bag hooks like the UX has that are neither use nor ornament.

Mine is scheduled to be built April 20th. 2024 & will be in Derbyshire 2 months later. Ruby Red must be in short supply ! Tel

Same 50/50 My iSF is on 49k miles, does little miles , it doesn't get abused at all and its well looked after, most likely it will see 3-4 track days until end of summer if i’ll have enough time and thats it and i doubt 3-4 track days will do any harm to the engine without the catch can , so no point for me to install one if the car would’ve been used every week on track being pushed to the max all the time , i would definitely get one to keep the engine clean Even if i’ll decide to install one that wouldn't be anytime soon as there are things that i’d like to upgrade way before the catch can 😁

Sorry my mistake. I was only looking at Dec 23 figures from SMMT not the full year. The actual number of EVs sold was quite a lot more than 2022 but the whole market rose as lead-times of vehicles reduced.

That's a pity. The workshop manual has a list of trouble codes and areas to check.

Car is looking great fella. P0420 is the cats, usually there's a leak before the second lambda sensor around the flanges like you've said. I get it here and there, nout to worry about, car will still drive fine 😄

Tax savings for company cars, and salary sacrifice schemes, means that new EVs are relatively cheap - but with leases typically only being 2 to 3 years in duration means these soon come onto the used car market and private buyers aren't purchasing them at the same rate - hence values have dropped. But having said that the number for sale is not disproportionate. Last year the market share for EVs was 19.7% of all new car sales. Autotrader currently has 18.8% EVs for sale out of all the 2023 cars listed.

New build homes ? Apartment blocks too ……. one charging point for each flat then ? Malc

Alternator is dead. Battery probably is simply low, because alternator isn't charging it at all. Did you say it was changed few years ago? Even if you have dead battery (say 11V) when engine is running you should still get close to 14V, it may be slightly lower since the battery is so dead, but it should never be under 11V. In fact if you battery was under 12 by itself and it drops to under 11 when engine is running, I reckon alternator is not running at all and engine is simply running on battery. Math here is relatively simple - so let's say maximum charge in the battery is 12.8-12.9V, running the engine requires minimum of 0.3V, so if your alternator is outputting say 13.2V, it would barely charge the battery. First of all, I suggest you charge the battery again, confirm it is NO LESS than 12.4-12.6V. Start the engine again and if you get less than what you measured before starting the engine - it is 100% alternator. I am already sure it is alternator, but technically you should not even start measuring it unless battery itself is 12+. Second thing, you can measure the voltage between alternator plug and body ground. You will see thick positive cable going to alternator and on the alternator there is rubber boot with hole at the top, basically you can stick your positive probe into that hole and that is your alternator positive. The other probe you can touch to clean engine grounding point, anywhere you can get good ground. When engine is running, this again should measure 14V+. MAKE SURE - your positive prove is vell insulated and you do not touch positive probe to the ground, whilst touching the alternator positive terminal, because shorting that will result in blown combination fuse and many other fuses (basically a direct 150A short). Why do this? To confirm that your alternator is still connected properly. Because if alternator is reading 14.4V at the terminals, but under 11V at the battery then something isn't connected, it may even be blown fuse or something. So it would be good to know this before you start replacing the alternator which may be good.

Wow, that’s a crazy amount! Makes me want to fit some of those ram bars that they fit on Police cars in the states. They’d also be handy for dispensing instant justice on people who don’t merge in turn!

33.8 was one fill so you have to look at the average which at over 40mpg is perfectly acceptable. Depreciation over 4 years and 32000 miles with the NX300 equated to less than £2600 per year (albeit the covid effect of inflated used car prices helped) and current insurance on the NX450h+ is £348 per annum enhanced fully comp. At over 70mpg for the 450h+ I am quite satisfied thank-you!

It’s an utterly brilliant car. Where else can you buy a naturally aspirated rear wheel drive V8 GT that sounds like this, that is so comfortable and well built, with decent dealers? Plus point - nobody else has one. Love mine to bits. Is can bus theft a genuine concern? Yes. One LC has been stolen and recovered, the ex owner stating that’d be his last Lexus. Also have a look at the RX, ES, UX forums which are busier mainly due to there being more cars and more owners. All those forums are full of theft threads. Cars are disappearing almost on a daily basis. There isn’t a week goes by where someone new joins the LOC to state their car has vanished. They knew nothing of this canbus problem until they lost their Lexus. The common link between most of these threads is the ex-owner is planning on staying an ex-owner ie that is their last Lexus. Also look at insurance threads. Lexus owners can’t get sensibly priced insurance in many cases. It’s not at the Land Rover point yet, where insurance is refused point blank, but if Lexus don’t step up and sort this there will be a tipping point for the insurance industry and we simply won’t to be able to get these cars insured. The RX is in the top ten UK most stolen. France has the NX or UX in their top ten. America has the same problem. This is a global failure. Lexus have so far introduced metal plates to protect the canbus access point in the wheel arches for RX ONLY. Fitment is free. They’re not publicising or actively offering it, so unless you have read about it and actually ask your dealer or Lexus customer services you’d never find out about it until your RX is halfway to Dubai. The rest of us are left to fend for ourselves. Lexus’s current position is ‘tough sh t’. I have a tracker for my insurance, but due to the canbus problem I’ve paid extra for an immobiliser, plus added stickers to warn it’s fitted with a tracker. I used trackerteam - recommended. It is most definitely a concern. You could also add a steering lock but based on a car (RX I think) videoed being stolen last week inside three minutes with a steering lock fitted (quiet leafy Surrey!) I don’t see the point. Anyone carrying canbus theft kit won’t be bothered about a steering lock as they’ll have a cordless ULEZ grinder with them as well. These are wonderful cars. I honestly don’t know what I’d replace it with, but if it were stolen it most certainly wouldn’t be another Lexus. That is down to Lexus themselves. The solution : an official recall for every affected car, to fit canbus plates, an immobiliser or revised software. Only when every single car in the country is likely to be protected and therefore unstealable via canbus will the thieves move onto something else. As a potential buyer I’d ask if you could do us all a favour - go to your local dealer and/or phone Lexus themselves, and question them about canbus theft. Tell them you’re thinking of buying their most expensive product, their halo car, their concept car made real, but that you’re really really concerned Lexus don’t care about you as a customer because if they did, they’d issue a recall like JLR have done, and get this vulnerability fixed. Today’s rant over. Stay tuned for more.

That's my belief. The new App is better (well less worse would be more to the point) than the original App but it was very noticeable that in the recent cold weather the remote climate control failed several times. Hard to escape the conclusion that's because understandably there were far more demands and the Lexus servers were not up to the job. Lexus know how to build a superb car mechanically but are letting their brand reputation go to the dogs with their inability to have a reliable and rich featured IT overlay that increasingly 21st century motoring expects,

I always intend to total up all repairs but always manage to loose track half way through. The car and repairs is costing around 12k. Slightly higher than first expected but still a great saving, concidering its under 30,000 miles. got a set of rims and tyres at over 1k a spare set of winter wheels and snow tyres and another 1k spent on paintwork as I wanted it pristine. It hasn't as much as a stone chip on the whole car.

Ah right, I can understand that a deer would trigger the system as the force applied would be similar to that of hitting a pedestrian if not more. I have seen the damage a deer did to a car years ago which was shocking but it was hit at about 40mph!! At least you actually know what did this, sadly I have no idea and even after searching the area straight after the incident, which is the most annoying thing for me!! So much so I have even purchased a dash cam now just in case the worst should happen again! Touch wood!!

Your missing the point, the pop-up hood is to PROTECT people been hit by the car NOT you.But sadly like many VW owners, no one these days seems to care about anyone but themselves. So what if my VW filling the air with NO, it doesn't bother me...Isn't it great how selfish we all can be :) As pointed out by others and most recently the 5k figure below, I think I'll settle for protection for myself until such a time as pop up hoods are more refined and will not cause you to be without a car for that long never mind the costs involved. Whether insurance pays or not is irrelevant, in fact I don't think I would want a car that has that much repair work carried out on it back again. Exactly what my whole point is, just how refined is this system!!

Oh and DanD just to add further details, this is my company car so the cost has no effect on me what so ever and all costs are covered by the insurance which is also paid by the company. Money is not the issue here as stated from the start the pop hood activating nearly caused an accident in a situation that didnt require it.

I echo all that. I don't skimp on maintenance and I always look at safety and the more air bags the better. But I draw the line at pop up hoods as I don't think they are refined enough, it's been discussed here enough. I don't need hassle of getting pop up hoods replaced or fixed if they inadvertently go off, indeed if they go off doing their job they still would be a pain in the butt with getting the car repaired. It will probably have a record on its file as being in an accident for example and will knock a sizable chunk of its resale value? So, I'm out. I am happy enough with twin chamber air bags, 10 or so others and all the traction control, snow mode and etc. That's safe enough for me.

I'm pretty sure if an airbag deployed by itself due to a kid kicking a football at the bumper, that would be taken very seriously. You know as well as I do the potential injury an air-bag could do if deployed inappropriately. Lexus clearly need to design the pop-up bonnet trigger better, I'm not bothered, because its unlikely to happen, but I hope they still at least look into the underlying cause.

Hello again, Update on my car and Lexus has confirmed there was an impact on the car which has triggered to Pop Up Hood. In their own words the impact has been small and on the lower front offside corner of the bumper. The bumber itself is fine and Lexus have also confirmed there is no damage to the bumber and only removing this has shown the sensor tube has been crushed slightly at that side. So what they are saying is the pedestrian protection system can deploy when something small hits the bumper and causes flex in the plastic. As someone mentions above, a child kicks a football in the road, £3000 bill, a bird strikes the front of the car £3000 bill!!! Or even worse a child kicks a football in the road, you dont see it, it them triggers a extreamly loud explosion/ bang and something appears in your line of site, you brake and try to avoid and run over the child at the side of the road. Or a pigeon flys out infront of your car, makes contact with the bumper and triggers the Pop Up Hood and your natural instinct is to react to a loud bang or something that in a split second appears in your vision. Ok these are just possible senarios but who is going to question just how possible this could actually be? What is everyone elses thoughts?

Hello All, new to this site but only found this post due to what has happened to me last night!! Driving along at around 30mph, smooth road, then all of a sudden a massing bang and I thought a large piece of metal had land on the front of the windscreen! Naturally I braked hard and swerved to avoid whatever looked like it was about to come through the windscreen nearly crashing the car through a set of barriers, luckily just avoided!! Once stopped and inspected the car I slowly realised the Pop Up Hood had activated!! The car was only registered in April and has done about 20,000miles. On inspection by the AA and a mechanic that lives near me they both confirmed there is no reason this safety system should have deployed, the AA guy also put that in writing for me, bless him. On talking to Lexus they have also said on inspection there is no signs or any damamge to the front of the car in fact it is was very clean with not even a small scratch you would come to expect anyway with the milleage. Im currently waiting for the dealership to examine this further and confirm what the outcome of that investigation is. This could have been much worse as the noise was extreamly load and when something large and white (colour of my car) appear in your driving view in a milli second of course you react to avoid it, the fact its attached to the car makes that a little tricky of course!! :-) Am I the only person that has had an accidental deployment of the Pop Up Hood, I would be interested to know???? To be fair to Lexus they had a hire car at their cost ready for me and have that for 3 days but if the repair will take longer they will extend this at their cost or provide a Lexus courtesy car. The servie department has also be fair in stating the inspection shows no damage to the car so points to accidental deployment. Im pretty sure in my experience of Audi this would have not been the same stance!!! Even though the customer service has been superb from Lexus Im still pretty annoyed that the system did this for no reason and when the car had never had and form of front end knock etc. As for someone advising you this could be reset in 30 minutes that is funny, the rams come up so far they have even cracked the paintwork on the top of the bonnet, the hinges are bent around 40 degrees out of place so this will never be a cheap quick fix even with colour coded parts held in stock!! It will need a new bonnet, hinges, Pop Up Rams and other work to reset it all. Of course there has been no mention of cost to me by Lexus which is fair of them again but even still the outcome of this failire could have been far worse and what if I had crashed, would they have been able to tell if the crash casued the pop up hood to deploy or did it happen and cause the crash, that would be a very interesting argument im sure. Anyway just wanted to add this to the subject as could this be the start of an ongoing fault like the Mondeo Light switch about 20 years ago that Ford said to my mum, its driver error or you must have done somehting or knocked it to then 6 months later Ford recalling all vehicles. Maybe a bit ott but if it starts to happen more then this suddenly will become useful to people :-) I was going to add some pictures but will only do via URL unless anyway can tell me how to do it another way??

It doesn't look good in years to come in the second hand market with cars with this feature as the cost in replacing/re-setting the parts could render the car a write off if the insurance thinks its not worth doing the repair due to the cost vs the value of the cars. How many people do you think will ask or know to ask if the feature is installed on a car Good for the pedestrian but a step backward for the driver I think...

Hello and welcome to the LOC. Even though there was no apparent damage noticed at the time I hope you still exchanged details with the other driver or you may be faced with a rather large bill. Take a read below. http://www.lexusownersclub.co.uk/forum/topic/98193-pop-up-hood-warning/

Thank you. I think you have encapsulated the spirit of my post and feelings towards Lexus. I'm really struggling with my thoughts on the brand, as I love the product but would not recommend Lexus to anyone given their pretty awful customer service.

They should have offered a Lexus courtesy car IMO, especially with the amount of work needed. I would take this up with Lexus UK. Which dealer was this btw?

OK, so now the process is over I can fill you in on the grisly details. Woman at Lexus UK got her knickers in a twist re the damage relating to the "impact". However, in a day or two an expert from Lexus UK talked me through the work which needs to be done when the pop-up hood activates - new bonnet, new hydraulic struts, colour matching with adjacent panels, replace front sensor, replace airbag sensors (they didn't go off), reset system, etc etc. So by Friday that week I was able to give the go-ahead for work to be done. The delay was due to spiralling costs and nobody being able to tell me how we got from initial verbal quote to nearly 3 times the cost. Sorry to say I smelled a rat which could have been avoided with good communication from the body shop. I finally picked my car up 3 weeks after they were able to start the work. Significant waiting time for parts and a final bill of nearly £3,500 plus VAT. Slightly different to while-u-wait reset bonnet and do the work at a later date, which was the original information provided. So the big question remains - what is the point of a safety system like this if you end up with a black mark on your insurance and the car off the road for 3 weeks? Answers on a postcard but unless anyone can confirm it's similar for BMW or Audi this will be the last Lexus I own...