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Well, the 250 passed its first MOT in my possession today with no advisories, so I'm a happy bunny! Got the garage to change the filter and oil [supplied by me] while she was up in the air, I'm getting too old to be lying in the road under cars now....

Hi Mike, Good luck with getting your car mot’d and back to good health, you’re a braver man than me. But I would stick with an LS400, just one that needs less work, but we do get attached to cars, my Scimitar was my mums, she bought it when it was a year old, and it has power steering, and a little bit more go with the 1UZFE engine. I hope to keep it until I can no longer drive. I now have a superb LS400 that I hope to get many years of enjoyment from, so can only commend you on your decision. Any excuse for a piccy of my lovely LS, good luck with yours

I have been told for a couple of months that mine will arrive at the dealership on 7th March. Now been informed it may be a 'couple of days' late. Of course this won't make any difference unless the insurance debacle is sorted before then.

I have just received this and my car is at the dealership for collection it's not looking good . Dear Nigel, Thank you for your email. I am seeking advice with an escalation internally to understand when external insurers will be able to offer quotes. It was my expectation that this should already be possible, and so I am seeking any advice I can on what the answer here is. Thanks for your enquiry and patience, I will update as soon as I have any information to share with you. Kind regards Lexus Customer Relations Case Manager Toyota (GB) PLC - Lexus Division Distributor of vehicles, parts and accessories for the UK

Lexus plan to sell 25,000 LBX per annum. Unless insurance quotes in future come down to reasonable comparative sums they won't! Buyers in the £30-£40k range won't buy an LBX if insurance premiums are high compared with other cars in their price range - BMW, Audi etc. Hopefully quotes will settle to reasonable levels as more insurance companies come on stream on comparative websites.

Malc.rves I'm not worried about outside observers, it's more a case that she's a completely original 1994 car. Andrew - you've no idea just how much your words - and others - have cheered me up. I'm feeling much more positive now, so thank you. Howard - thanks for this. It makes a lot of sense actually, and probably what Malc was referring to when he said not much £££. The boot carpet does seem dampest under where the aerial comes in. I've decided to keep her and get the work done, as time and funds become available. You've all made it sound much less of a biggie than I'd originally imagined, and I'm a lot less worried after reading your excellent advice, common sense and pragmatism, so thank you all so much. I feel like a weight has been lifted.

Was matched to Lexus leather code on Gliptone website. https://gliptoneeurope.com/product/scuffmaster-leather-dye-colour-matched/

This is not a good start and almost forces you down the path of insuring your LBX without any real chance of using a comparison site like go compare etc. Moreover Lexus Car Insurance is known for outrageous quotes as is Toyota car insurance as both use the same underwriters for their policies. They take commission on all policies issued. Neither Lexus or Toyota carry the risk and act as a Broker really. This is the very reason I told the salesman at Lexus Hull that for us the cost of knowing how much insurance was likely to be was a priority before we considered an order. We won't be replacing a Yaris hybrid at the sort of premiums you are now facing. Never heard of Insure the Box, they must be a new start up company. You know you will need insurance cover immediately so to get the vehicle home why don't you ask them to initiate the 3 day drive home cover Lexus and Toyota dealers offer. That way you can try and secure cover in the short term while the car is garaged or on your drive. Also try and find out who underwrites Lexus Insurance, just ask them who carries their insurance and maybe approach them direct. Likelihood is that Lexus will put their business with a reputable insurer and maybe you can obtain a better quote directly. While the LBX has been a big hit, with significant orders already, I'm guessing these new owners are in for a shock at what their insurance will jump to. NB: I am with Churchill Car Insurance and my renewal for my LS500h has risen to £1100 from £675. That's a 60% increase for someone with 15+ years no claims discount, no penalty points or convictions and living in a small town in Yorkshire. Repair costs in relation to insurance claims have risen significantly in the last 3 years and massively for parts and paint materials and worse than that our wild west country has seen significant increases in theft claims across all makes but especially high end makes like Lexus. We don't stand a chance really.

Hey man, I was in the same boat as you a couple of years ago. Really love the look of them, but after test driving it and I realised it wasn't the car for me at the time. Nothing wrong with the car at all, it's just my expectations were a little too high. It looks beautiful and sporty. I was expecting it to drive like a sports car and while the handling & seating position are brilliant, it's lacking oomph to back up the looks in my opinion. Mind you, it was my mistake expecting it from a hybrid powertrain that's in lots of other lexuses. It's built for comfortable cruising / commuting. It would make a perfect daily, but it's no tarmac ripper. If you don't care about the performance aspect of them I would say you'll be happy with it. I was only unhappy about it because it would be my only car, so I was expecting a little more fun from under your right foot. To clarify, it isn't out right slow, especially in real life conditions (commuting to work etc). The hybrid system gives you a lot of instant torque so it feels quite good until higher speeds. As what to look out for.. there isn't much really. Make sure it's got the basics like full service history by lexus (so it qualifies for the 10 year warranty but not sure if Ireland do this), both keys, see how the boot lid feels to close. I know some people had issues with the boot lid but a little bit of WD40 in the latch solved it. Also make sure to try Sport/+ modes compared to eco and feel the difference in the suspension damping. If you can't feel an obvious difference there is something wrong with the dampers. Also an issue some forum members had. Can't remember exactly what the cause was. Bottom line, it's a great reliable and efficient car for a vast majority of people, but don't be fooled by it's sporty looks like I was.

March 25th renewal date. £736 with NFU. Increase of about £70 on last years.

Nice move, Gary. Always fun to scam a scammer! Interesting to know if EBay bothers to track down the advertiser. After all, they took the money that paid for the phoney advertisement so it’s possible to follow the money back to the fraudster. They are also now possibly party to fraud, having been informed of it, unless they take action to check the advertiser’s application details and expose them. They can’t simply rely on the principle of Caveat Emptor to shift all responsibility on to the prospective buyer.

Now I have got the V5 form all sorted out and the car insured then tomorrow it will be road taxed and ready to go. I am going to use this thread to make a comparison between the two cars based upon my experience of owning and driving them. I will try to be objective, but bear in mind aesthetically I am a bit biased towards the SC 430. At this point I have not driven the Jag except to test drive due to me screwing up the V5 form at purchase completely forgetting that I was supposed to put this in my wife's name. That's now all sorted so we are clear for lift off. Having just come back off a 250 mile round trip in the SC 430 it's quite a good point to start the comparison. I will use pics where I think it's appropriate. Hope it is interesting for more than just me.

Hello Ed, I think the value of all luxury vehicle's has taken a kicking recently. The only survivors that show price increase, are the small 1.0 litre fart boxes, with low insurance and tax. I reckon if you own an RX Mk 4, or any previous models, it has become a keep it or take a kicking. Personally I will probably keep mine, as the final balloon payment I will have to make in 2026, is such that if I hand the car back, I certainly couldn’t buy an upmarket luxury car. Yes, I could buy a brand spanner’s MG, Peugeot, Renault, Citroen etc, and I have nothing against any of those vehicles……but they ain’t a Lexus! So I’ll stick for the moment with my RX and it’s 10 year warranty, that way, values don’t apply 🤔

Some time ago I mentioned I would post a pic of the boot arrangement in my SC 430 that concealed the installation of the coil overs. So, pic down below. Only a couple of people have looked in the boot and each have assumed they are speakers to the audio system. Full disclosure Stew came up with this idea which I happen to think quite clever. Also a pic of the colour edged mats if your originals are a bit past their sell by date like mine were. Here is what an alternative looks like if you fancy a change from 'stock'. As an aside the tonneau is basically 'factory' condition. I have seen a couple now badly deteriorated I strongly suspect the culprit is damp/mildew. Not to be laughed at as if you don't know it that roof doesn't come off if your tonneau is stuffed.

I have this feature on my JDM 2004 Toyota Celsior (Lexus LS430) but they only activate when the headlights are on, it’s dark and the indicator for that side is on. UK specification cars don’t have this feature.

Please PM me Colin and let me know how it’s done, I did message Steve about it.

Its more likely due to the lack of information from an insurers point of view and being a brand new model that its artifically elevated to make sure the insurance companies don't lose any money. Happened once with me when I bought a new Mercedes back in 2003. Was a new model and it didnt exist on the system so essentially just plucked a figure out of thin air

Hi Paul, thanks for your reply. Yes, back oop North now on the borders of Bolton and Wigan, not too far from M61 J4. Sorry, but I'm pretty useless when it comes to identifying the undersides of cars. I assume the first photo in your post is the corrosion on n/s and o/s integral body structure. The lower suspension arm ball joint you mentioned in your second photo I assume refers to the dust cover no longer preventing the ingress of dirt? Hope that's right, but they're only assumptions on my part. Thanks for your kind and generous offer to have a gander, but I think where she's being stored at the moment is going to be too much to ask of you. We currently have her in a secure car park at my wife's place of work, which is in Chester. That's well over 100 miles round trip from Darwen and travelling / looking /travelling back hours of your time. I can't ask you to do that. Best regards, Mike.

As others said , it's one of those cars where you rarely need to open the hood. I looked there out of curiosity one day and it was very dirty. It needs regular attendance to keep it spotless.

Ok for a 6 months or 5,000 miles guarantee (whichever comes first) on a GS450h the cost is £650 - within this cost I give up to 4 replacement modules FOC. if more modules are needed I charge £35 each for them, the guarantee is limited to only those modules that I replace. For 1 year or 10,000miles guarantee (whichever comes first) with the same vehicle the cost is £745 - within this cost I give up to 4 replacement modules FOC. if more modules are needed I charge £35 each for them, the guarantee covers all the cell modules. Hope this helps. I would put a link in for my website but I was taught to be cautious & do not want to fall foul of the forum rules.

So you are in Greater Manchester now? I work in Bolton and live in Darwen and, depending on where you are, I don't mind taking a look at the car. I may be able to give you some pointers and advice, PM me and maybe we can sort something out. I can't quite figure out something though, which part of car is shown in the picture below, do you know which part of the car this is? And the suspension arm shown below, front lower suspension arm I guess (not the front strut bar), does have corrosion but it doesn't look like an MOT fail to me. That's assuming the picture was take for that reason and not the oil that can be seen.

Prevous year was £560 with Direct Line. Was quoted around £900 for renewal, but on saying I'd cancel it was reduced to £660. That's for their comprehensive plus cover, which provides fully comp in Europe.

Pete - I hear you Loud and clear. Car regrets have been many over the years, but only because of other idiot drivers writing them off and me not being able to replace them. Worst was a 2.9i V6 Scorpio - God I loved that car! I remember selling a shotgun for a newer model in the eighties - fitted me like a glove. Nothing I've ever owned since has come close. That's one I'll take to the grave! Ben - Nice Scimitar! My wife was offered one in the Nineties, and very nice it was too. Her reason for not buying (despite my protests)? No power steering ha.🥵 Bill, I don't intend for her to become a costly money pit, and what's been spent on purchase and repairs -when factored into cost of replacement - is not a whole hill of beans. Malc, you always knew the answer. 😄 I can't and I won't let her go without a damn good fight. So thank you, and the others for helping me regain perspective. It's been quite cathartic. Nigel, thank you so much for your generous offer and if I was still in Norfolk, I would definitely take you up on it. Free advice AND a garage that has some knowledge of these exotic beasts is rare indeed. You gentlemen are blooming marvellous. I'm blown away by your knowledge, experience and willingness to help. Thank you all so very, very much. I'll keep you updated as to progress, but please don't expect too quick a fix. I think this will be a bit of a slog. Warmest regards, Mike.

Just checked Direct Line and Admiral - both still don't list the LBX as an option when trying to select the vehicle online.

Might be worth waiting a few months Sandra to see how LBX premiums pan out if you have that £500 refund facility. Like I have said £1100 for a LS550h up from £675 seems an easier pill to swallow than be faced with a ridiculous figure for a LBX which only Lexus Insurance Services are offering. Interesting that John quoted "Insure the Box" who were able to quote. Never heard of this company so must be new. How come they can quote when no one else can I wonder. Making a claim with a company that has no track record can be very scary. Their mandatory Telemetic Box is a known technology but monitoring your every move while driving can significantly affect a renewal quote as the Company can analyse your use 24/7 365 days a year. It can determine not only exceeding speed limits but accelerations rates, severity of braking force, how long you drive in EV mode, normally a great indicator of sensible and careful driving, time of day the car is in use 24 hours a day.

Bad news then Colin for anyone wanting to approach the actual underwriter of Lexus Insurance to make a direct approach for a cheaper quote for a LBX. Unlikely a company, possibly based overseas, would even entertain individual enquiries. Once all Insurers who are familiar household names list the LBX then maybe LBX owners will have a bit of competition but in the meantime if only Lexus are quoting then it's a bit of a monopoly unless you count "Insure the Box" referenced by John. If I was looking for insurance cover I would at least seek out a quote for a high spec UX for comparison to see if the latest LBX technology is having a significant impact of ratings. I've driven the LBX, a Takumi but it didn't strike me as being excessively luxurious or it's equipment levels and technology were space age. The interface screen takes care of about 90% of all driver needs and it's voice activation system seemed very good. Fancy electric touch door opening and similar innovations can't be the reason for a £3600 quote for 12 months cover. Bear in mind also the compulsory Insurance excess will be high too is my guess.

My LBX has arrived at the depot apparently but I haven’t got a delivery date yet. I’ve just spoken to NFU who are very helpful btw, the LBX is not on their database either so I can’t get a quote, however I’ve just organised my husbands insurance for his 2022 RX 450h through NFU and the cost is £847 which is far cheaper than any of the comparison sites. It might be worth trying NFU at a later date. I’m finding it very frustrating that I can’t get a quote from anywhere, (I’m not even bothering going down the Lexus insurance route as in the past they’ve been ridiculous on my husbands vehicles) I’m glad my deposit of £500 is refundable, I think if I hadn’t driven the LBX I would be looking elsewhere, it’s not a good start on my first Lexus.

The policies are underwritten by Aioi Nissay Dowa Insurance who is part of MS&AD Insurance Group Holdings with Toyota being the largest single shareholder - so they do somewhat carry the risk but it's very much removed from the UK business.

"Neither Lexus or Toyota carry the risk and act as a Broker really." You probably will not be surprised to know this happens a lot. Have a look at policies and find out who is actually underwriting. Eye opener that often what you think is the Insuring company is not actually underwriting the risk at all. When you factor in in the tier of comparison sites/brokers, the next tier of so called insurers who are really wholesale intermediaries, and all that until you finally get the top tier who are actually bearing the risk of insurance. All very much a pyramid style of operation with each tier adding to the final costs of insurance unless you find a way of bypassing some elements of the process.

About 6 coats! My wife did notice something on the dining room table!

I had mine replaced at just 3 years old on the 3 year service, it was done under warranty, but told me I was lucky as it would only have been covered for 3 years.

Typically Lexus only provide 12 month warranty on parts. Hopefully the battery is longer but you will need to check with your supplying dealer, although I doubt it is 5 years unfortunately.

Car insurance has shot up this year...but that's an eye watering number, you've been quoted.

Thanks AWC this worked for me.

Yeah I did see a difference but I hadn't realised it would impact it that much. I do think it's mainly the rolling resistance and weight of the run flat tyres over the increased size. Everything I've researched says that the size and tiny increase in width shouldn't really impact it that much, it's more likely to be the rolling resistance which is category D for the run flats versus A for a regular tyre. I think when it comes to getting new tyres I'll stick regular ones onto it.

So, they managed to enhance the RX plates, but didn't bother to create any long term solution?! Who cares about the rest of the line up. As long as they are seen doing the bare minimum for the SUV crowd, no offence guys, just the most predominant vehicle type now sold with the highest margin, screw all the other customers. Even LC customers, one of their most expensive vehicles don't matter, no volume there. What are they thinking? How do they think this is going to play out? Now the RX is the number one stolen vehicle in the uk by percentage. 1 in 46! How much worse does it have to get for them to stop applying stickers and quietly nonetheless? Loud recall lexus, you idiots! I've even conveyed as much to them, even if it costs us money. Because if it's the bottom line they only care about, just charge us ffs!! I doubt any owner would say no I'm not paying, to save thousands in depreciation, insurance, meager theft payouts...etc.

I would think most genuine mechanics seat covers would do, generally they are only used when the vehicle is static in the workshop . My usage is when working on the car at home .

I would apply the Dynax products to the underside. Easy to DIY as they come in a can with longish lance attachment, so you can get into any cavities. I'd also remove the arch liners and apply it there. Once dried I'd give everything a spraying of ACF 50. The Dynax should last 2-3 years (longer behind the wheel arch liners), but I'd reapply the ACF 50 annually, as it only takes 20-30 minutes. It the roads are regulary salted then I'd also periodically rinse the underside with a lawn sprayer. The ACF 50 should survive a few rinses over winter.

Perfectly understandable about wanting to protect a brand new car from the start and climate plays it's part of course, hot dry countries no real rust issues ever, humid wet coastal areas, a very different effect on metals. Still believe that the current assembly methods, factory applied corrosion protection and lots of "Shielding" in critically wet areas will do their job very well in the UK. As Linus said some rust is a direct consequence of careless jacking the car up by garage staff or owners, stone chips left unattended leading to surface rust/blisters, any damage caused by scrapes, scratches that are left to fester will give the impression of a rusty car but excluding these examples of rust a modern Lexus will have a standard perforation warranty of the bodyshell. Highly unlikely you will ever experience rust eating it's way out from the inside, inconceivable really if we are being honest about how cars are built today. Once a car Manufacturer got a reputation of corrosion such as Lancia then they simply never recover. I once requested an owner pay towards a new scuttle panel (Below the front screen) as part of his insurance claim I was dealing with because the rot was so bad it could not be saved. Had the panel been rot free it would have repaired easily. He was so glad he could tell Lancia UK his insurer was asking him to contribute due to corrosion who had been turning down his many letters of complaint he made about corrosion to the bodywork before his accident. He now had proof that he had a case. The car in question, a 2 year old Lancia Fulvia. Should have been called a Lancia Lace Curtain. One thing that has taken off for older cars which totally transforms a car is dry ice cleaning (see Youtube videos). The point I am making about dry ice is that the car's all seem totally solid to begin with but the dry ice cleaning gives it that 95% new look when it was built. No matter what the dry ice touches it total restores how the part looked originally without destroying the more delicate bits such as painted parts, original corrosion finishes, sealers on joints, suspension parts, bolts in particular. It's usually something for people who want to restore a car. Some of the YouTube videos have to be seen to be believed. I've seen videos of cars that are only a few years old being treated and the owner wants that new look again. Engine bays look really good too. Conclusion: Enjoy your new car and clean it/wash it regularly and correctly using a pressure washer periodically under wheel arches etc. Attend to any defects immediately even if it's small enough for a touch up stick. If you are inclined get a decent set of car ramps which will allow you to raise either end of the car so you can have access to areas of the car that are difficult to reach if the coastal salt water is a concern.

As it happens I own nearly 20 years old Lexus (2005)... does it have rust? Ohhh yeah! But more important question is what kind of rust it has... So first of all it is clear that it wasn't always cared for, there is little spot of rust where rear fender was scratched (so accident damage), the suspension bolts and nuts in particular have rust on them (I was told by mechanic this is typical for all Japanese cars, compared to say German), there is rust around lifting points (so again damage from improperly lifting the car) and exhaust is rather rusted (so that is wear an tear)... but there is no rust whatsoever on typical spots for older cars, floors, sills, inner fenders etc, because all that is covered by plastic. What is most important - all the areas that would be protected by "rubber undercoat" are not rusted. That is not to say rust protection is not needed, but as I said the focus should be primarily suspension components, not the underside of the car. Also they will rust anyway, if not themselves then they will be covered by brake dust which will rust on top of them. But using something like Bilt Hamber Atom-Mac is basically what is needed, something that could easily be sprayed on intricate links and suspension components. You can even do it yourself, it requires application maybe every 2-3 years, but as a matter of routine could be done once a year. The process itself would be rather simple - lift the car (ideally without damaging the floor 😄), remove 1 wheel (if you have nice even parking and jack stands could be done on all 4 wheels), spray it with APC, let it sit for 5 minutes, pressure wash all the lose dirt, let it sit for maybe 15 minutes for most of the water to run down (compressed air would be ideal here), then spray Atom-Mac focusing on suspension components and all of key things can be reached easily from wheel well. Also wand sprayer (like the ones used to kill weeds in garden) are ideal for this. Repeat on all 4 corners and your car should be protected from rusting for good 3 years.

You might wish to consider Lanoguard - it needs applying once a year but it has a very good reputation. Belt and braces?

Bus is a computing term meaning a shared communication path between components, essentially via copper wires either within a system or allowing multiple systems to communicate with each other. CAN is an acronym for controller area network (hence why it is written in capital letters) - it is the specific protocol, or language, that is sent over the bus - like humans, two items communicating need a common language to understand each other. Within the auto industry there are many different protocols used. Toyota/Lexus commonly use CAN, LIN, AVC-LAN and MOST. The reason for using buses rather than discrete wiring is to save cost and allow more sophisticated features. Take the rear light clusters, (Toyota don't typically use CAN for rear lights but just as an example) - traditionally you have multiple wires, one for each function: rear light, brake, left indicator, right indicator, reverse and fog. That's 6 controls wires + ground. If you had sequential indicators you need two more wires for sequential mode rather than standard on/off required for hazard, so a total of 9 wires. If you had CAN controlled light clusters you can reduce to just 4 - +12v, ground and two CAN wires. If you want your mirrors to drop when in reverse, rather than a signal wire going to the mirror ECU, it can just listen for the reverse communication without needing any additional wires. If you take it to the extreme, where modern matrix headlights are made up of 1,000+ individual LEDs that each can be controlled individually to block out the beam to oncoming traffic then that wouldn't be economically possible or reliable using discrete wiring.

Pin 3 on the fog light connector is for cornering lights, which is controlled via the headlight ECU. I don't know if it would be as simple as removing that pin from the connector and putting insulation table around it. Some duct tape over that element of the fog light lens would be the simplest solution.

It gets dusty in there quite quickly, it's not a sign of neglect. What's more important is having invoices for work done and parts replaced throughout its history, along with the tire brand equipped.

Must admit I don’t find them gimmicky. I’ve had them on all of my cars since 2013 and find that they are a great help turning in to country lanes and a driveway on a dark country lane. I also think that you will find them fitted to most cars these days.

I've been on this for over a month now. I was in touch with Lexus customer service on Friday 23 and they said that it would be sorted by early this week I have been checking daily but it's not looking promising

I am now well into my second year of ownership of my first Lexus after [as other member of this forum] owing various makes and models through the past number of years and on each change the technology and toys become more prominent making the actual issue of driving more comfortable, enjoyable and less stressful. Yes we all know that to have all of these lovely things costs money and the Lexus is certainly up there in the expensive category The Lexus itself does all of this with one main exception....the Multimedia which in my opinion is not fit for purpose for such a high end motor car. After reading the last and previous posts on this subject I am at a loss as to why we [and I include myself] put up with this failing item, with owners re-setting, re-starting, re-profiling, turn off/on..only to find that something else is not working or missing information. I have more or less given up with the [new!! ] version of the Lexus phone app. My unit [as others] updated over the weekend....and as others, find that the traffic congestion is no longer there. But more importantley, my 20+ saved destinations have now been deleted completely which is infuriating to say the least, is no fault of my own.... and should just NOT happen. We all own a mixture of mobile phones, Laptops, PCs, TVs etc etc that from time to time all require updating...and from my experience just switch back on and continue as normal. Why can't a much more expensive Lexus Multimedia Tech not do the same ?? I wonder what an employed Lexus Multimedia technician would do if after updating his /her mobile phone, switched on to find the all the contacts had been wiped or documents disappeared from a PC ....they would complain or fix it and not purchase the same model again!

they want to be I've been on this case for over 6 weeks . my dealer didn't have a clue about it .

The dealer ended up not touching up the chip as it was pouring out and i was in a rush, so they ended up giving me a container of paint instead I ordered a blending solution, some clear coat and decided to just tackle this as a DIY. Unfortunately, driving back from the dealer, a rock chipped my windshield, which i can't fix with the newly acquired paint

I received a quote from LMI for a LBX Premium Design Plus yesterday 838……which is crazy. This is more expensive than I currently pay for a 370 BHP Porsche ……makes no sense. Either this is the real price or they have made an error, I asked them to recheck their Underwriter assumptions/algorithms. This they kindly agreed to do and they offered to call me back. For the record we are talking maxim NCD, 8000 miles per annum car parked in a drive, personal use….ie pootling around. So something does not stack up……. Any comments welcome.