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Just before a full on assault of a great B road.....................

Did you all have to stop and wait so that the M4 could reset it's fault codes ;-)

I've been thinking about changing to a RCF for the past 6 months but keep changing my mind because I'm still really attached to my ISF. But the recent shift of ISF owners on here has convinced me to make the move! Anyway, with a budget of £35K(for a car with less then 30Kmiles) this weekend I started making calls and hopefully arrange viewings but was left disappointed.. On AT: Grey one: sold on Sat. Black one(from Sandel Auto) sold on Sat after 2 days on AT. White carbon @£36k sold/disappeared from AT&Lexus website. Silver one @Harveys: It's a long way for me to travel so it was a tentative call. Got offered a pathetic PX from them today:( £30k to £35k RCFs must be where the demand is...

Wow, that's pretty insulting. I'm guessing you must hate your IS with it's ABS, Traction Control and all the other electronic gizmos interfering with the driving pleasure? Personally, I can tell the difference between driving a FWD and RWD drive car, but it's not the be all and end all of whether I enjoy driving a car or not. I have both at the moment and find driving pleasure in both for different reasons. I guess 40 years of reading about, watching programmes on, and driving as many different cars as I can get my hands on isn't enough to make me an enthusiast because I don't subscribe to your point of view. Fortunately, I'm happy to continue in my ignorance and I'll continue to enjoy finding cars that surprise me with how good they are, possibly even including the new ES. I'll let you know when I've driven it...

TBO my main criteria for the RCF was condition & a low mileage with The Mark Levinson . Also wasn’t bothered about the TVD as happier with the standard diff as car will never be tracked. I wanted that aspect of the cars chaaracter to be as analogue as possible - well as analogue as any car can be these days!. Never used the adaptive cruise control on the ISF or any car before it so wasn’t bothered about that either - I don’t do a lot of miles in my cars so I want to drive it even if it’s in a 50mph average speed camera zone.

That road looks a bit dull & boring to drive😉 Not jealous at all - wondering if I need to go all the way to Scotland for the NC500 after all!! 😆

Sometimes I just say "F It" and post on there. My 335i which was approved used BMW was in BMW garage for 11 weeks in 12 months. All covered under warranty but the novelty of an i3 soon wore off as my courtesy car. Another thing against the M4 in the pic.... And the RCFs and GSF. I can't afford one ;-). So it's jealousy. But I am pleased for you guys.... Honest :-) Right. Back onto the Max Power forum to discuss 1/4 mile times with the Focus ST boys against the Lexus.

@FTBBCVoodooWorks well to..... Mrs Rat calls it ‘Elderly Assist’ ...... I think she means me or she’s just mean....... I’ll settle on the just mean...... 🐀

This was the only time any of us were actually in front of it..................................................

mine is, picked up September, 805 miles, i think it looks very nice sitting on the driveway. lol

Got my figures off a Lexus sales guy. He said 214 RC F sold to date and 213 IS F left but nothing to back it up so could be BS :)

My figures from Lexus source match those from ‘How many left’ That is 169 RCF with 2 Sorn And 25 Carbon with 1 Sorn, the 4th quarter 2017 and 1st quarter 2018 figures have not been released as yet. As regards the desirability of the few available options mine has Acc/PCs and a Sunroof But no Tvd that was my choice, which I guess is the case for every perspective buyer. As always with such a small pool of cars to choose from some compromise has to be made and it’s a wise move move as well to check the history of the car as a fair number had a very hard early life. Big Rat

2 more private sale cars have appeared on AT today. Probably see more now that the 2015 cars are 3 years old and needing MOTs. Also got a improved PX offer from Harvey's but still not enough..

@HarryM Honestly this global warming that is one hell of an isolated snow shower........... 🐀

OEM tow bar and electric's are now installed, the job escalated and left the car airborne for a week. A rear mounted rack that's nice and low is much easier to use than a roof rack, more aerodynamic too. I've already had a pal 'suggest' that I've been moonlighting for the council and emptying wheelie bins into my boot ! That bin has been split for years, ended up housing junk and has now gone.

Sounds like a plan but as you say it will take some research. Only car I have had with better residuals than the ISF was a Williams Clio, which just goes to show that rarity is a good thing.

Thanks Chaps for all the input. Also, @Big Rat Many thanks for putting me in touch with @DAW

Bang on and exactly my thoughts. This is my goal over the next few cars. Buy the right car at the right price and sell for as little loss as possible. Sounds easy but it neeeds a lot of research. Managed with my isf and my Evora and rcf is the next one then hopefully a Aston v8vs and then who knows!

Back to bikes, my winter and summer commuters in the shower...

I expect most owners of the RC-F have it on pcp which means the 3 years are coming up, so the oldest RC-F you can buy will be 3 years old, i don't expect you can get one for less than £30k, so your £30k - £35k is around the mim selling mark,

30-35k is a sweet spot for a lot of car owners in terms of how much they are willing to spend. Also with the rcf now coming close onthe isf in price depreciatuon should slow dramatically. I would never look to own a new one of these but your budget is the same as mine when the time comes. Also, you are looking at the worst time really as the market for sports cars always picks up this time of year. The white carbon one looked a bargain given the current market imo.

Loud exhausts save lives. Remember the Green Cross Code.... Stop - Look - Listen.... Or hope that the Nissan Note has poverty tyres that make enough noise that it makes up for electric motor.

So she's sat there wrapped in the Welsh morning mist and dirt............ 🙄 After her previous day's exercise........ Big. Rat

@as13 I'd say the results speak for themselves! I thought I was pretty good at cleaning and looking after my cars, but Chris at Summit Detailing has taken the level of shine to a different level - mainly using Gtechniq products. Interestingly, the ceramic coat applied by the dealer from new (at no cost) had been done quite well in most places...but wasn't present at all on the lower bodywork. Evidently whoever applied it didn't want to bend down . Anyway, it is now fully de-contaminated and protected......and my 14 year-old MINI Cooper is next, although that will be getting a more thorough 3 day treatment.

4pm tomorrow i'll be collecting my car can't wait haven't told anyone at work interesting to hear what comments i have on thursday.

Why slash FWD car.. because it is FWD... It could have any badge and any features... If BMW would decide to make BMW 3-series a FWD - I would say the same thing - this is my least favorite BMW of all time (currently that title must be with 1-series). Simple question with simple answer - would I ever buy, consider or recommend FWD car - No! Never... if you feel no difference in driving pleasure behind the wheel in FWD and RWD, then you probably should use public transport - your are not car enthusiast... and I would probably would go as far as saying not a good driver, but that would be beyond the line of insult... Generally, I think people cannot be good at something they are not interested about and don't enjoy. But hey!... that is fine - not everyone are car enthusiasts and I am just little angry men writing bizarre rants in online forum - so why care. New Lexus ES FWD is my least favourite Lexus car ever made by far - does it matter? - No! it is just my opinion, which is neither better nor worse then anyone elses.

I agree the price is too steep, in my opinion £4-5K seems more appropriate, but if you're selling you need some wriggle room. If the timing belt has just been done (the mileage is right for a new belt) then perhaps a little more. My guess is the original wheels would have pitted badly as mine did and it was easier to buy LS430 clean wheels which have an inch extra on the rim size if I'm not mistaken. The driving mats look after- market but knowing the cost of Lexus replacements I can understand why. As mentioned recently on other posts, I do expect these prices to rise slowly over the next 5-10 years. .

@FTBBCVoodoo Lee love it go get em 😂 🐀

Adaptive. It was adaptive. So close.

No real amusement. Just got off defending Lexus from BMW fanboys on Pistonheads so I am more comfortable on homesoil. I am a big fan of the M4 and the M3. A girl I work with has a stunning grey M3 Comp Pack. My own ownership experience of having a BMW 335i is that I never want to return (that's why I am here). Apart from an E46 M3. Still bucketlist.

@Mark G Yeah you are missing something if you zoom the picture.... a lot you’ll spot yourself pointing Percy at the Welsh country side

Yeah but that's like when you go out on the pull with your mate when young free and single and you pick out an awful shirt for your mate with pictures of dustbin lids all over it and say "birds will love you in that" That's what you have done..... ;-)

Believe it or not, that’s Health and Safety gone mad 🤪......the old boys used to come in weekends to restore them (retired)....H&S stated they had to payout for track certifications to be able to work on them, they haven’t been worked on for over 5 years 😳

I completely agree - but we all can hope ... to find that perfect car and at the same time being in the right position/time to afford it.

@Womble72 Paul you could have taken one of those things behind the bike you love so much...... wouldn’t have been early on that 😉 🐀

Oh ok - do you know what the RCF figures currently are for the uk out of interest?

I kind of disagree, Black one at Hatfields was at sub-£35K mark for over half-year now and 3-4 cars are always available to choose from. My issue is that most of them don't have either TVD, or Sunroof or ACC/PCS. And I haven't seen such cars for under £35k for a while. There is one RC-F for £29k (cheapest ever) now with all bits, but 46k miles are quite high for the age.

As some have mentioned have you checked the thermostat?

Agreed. The rcf should be good at current prices from a depreciation point of vire but time will tell.

Sounds fabulous. I guess the running costs are quite high compared to owning a house, with mooring fees and hull cleaning (all I can think of), but the compensations are huge too if you know what you are doing. Re the 430 gearbox. I was in Osaka a couple of weeks ago for my annual service and MOT. I asked if I should be looking at a new radiator and they said no. They can go, but only if the vehicle is not looked after was Khalid's opinion. He has 40+ years with Toyota, including a long spell in Libya, and I am very confident he knows more than the service chief at my local dealer. Just my 2p. FWIW I have had him change the transmission fluid twice. I did all the fluids when I bought the car, and he said the transmission fluid had never been changed and would benefit from doing again the following year, so I did. This year I asked what I should be worrying about in the next 20,000 miles and he said "I would love to take more money off you, but there's nothing." :) Jon

I think the fact remains that they now represent fantastic value for money, as does the ISF for that matter. Big Rat

Hi Melissa, welcome to the LOC. I've no experience on the IS200 I'm afraid, but have you checked the thermostat and the fans? I guess as you have drained the system to fit a new radiator there should be no airlocks or blockages in the system.

Woopsee! Sorry for steering this thread completely off-topic gents!!

Nice wishing to sound old, Mr sensible or on in any way patronising but.....to be honest, I think going looking for anyone is a really bad idea, besides which you don’t have any idea who the idiot was. I think it’s one of those moments where you need to get it sorted and not let it eat you any longer. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Hi, guys... can someone fill me in when and where the meeting is gonna’ take place, please?

Ah I see. Is there no-one breaking a mk4 that would sell the springs? I'm inclined to keep mine in the shed until they're ready to go back on the car Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk

Well if your interested... It's a 1976 Hatteras 42 LRC (Long Range Cruiser) It has been totally refitted during the last four years, every major component has been rebuilt or replaced, the previous owner spent close to three times the price we paid on the refit, it cost 27 times more than the Lexus.... Brief specification... The Hull is solid fiberglass approaching an inch and a half thick and is built like a tank, that is why it is worth refitting a 42 year old boat Detroit Diesel 4-53s that were completely rebuilt, along with her transmissions, in 2016 less than 800 hours. 7.5kn at 1,500rpm using 3.1GPH (Detroit Diesels are 2 stroke diesels and very simple, these are around 3.5ltrs and 4 cylinder) Rocna Fortress 33 kg anchor with 240 feet of chain, 300 feet of rode—new 2014. This is heavy ground tackle. We have never slipped anchor, even in gales. Bruce standby anchor with 300 feet of rode. Fortress emergency anchor with a lot of rode. Sea anchor Garmin radar, Garmin 7212 touch screen chart plotters at both helms, new 2014 Raymarine autopilot with remote, new 2014 Raymarine depth sounder, new 2015 Active AIS, transmit and receive, that plays on the Garmin. Pipewelder deck crane (we use it as an emergency crane) Trinka hand built 10’ rowing, sailing, power dinghy with 2 1/4 horsepower Honda outboard, new 2014. This is a beautiful, beautiful tender. She rows and sails like a dream, and powers well at hull speed. KTI fuel polisher, new 2014 Full steering system overhauled 2016 Cruise RO 20 gph water maker, new 2015. All parts are off the shelf and available world wide. Three Standard horizon VHFs with DSC, MMSI, etc. New 2014 and 2016. We use three radios often in busy harbors or in bad weather. Icom Single Sideband radio, new 2015. Long range VHS and SSB antennas. We have received VHF nearly 50 miles offshore, and received SSB from thousands of miles away. PSS dripless shaft seals, new 2016 Racor dual manifold primary filters (4 filters total) with vacuum gauges, new 2014 Bilge pump cycle counters, bilge high water alarms, new 2015 Custom Glastop settee, new 2014 Teak and holly sole, new 2014 We have replaced five port lights in the last few years, and rebedded the others. They’re tight. No leaks at all Two new custom built teak side doors. Deck nonskid paint will be new as of 2018. Freshwater & Sal****er washdown pumps Clipper anenometer and wind direction, new 2016 Bottom soda blasted, epoxy barrier coated and painted with Petit Trinidad in 2016. Hull has no blisters. Two main props and two spare props in lazarette reconditioned and balanced in 2017. One is new. All canvas and isenglass new 2015 Shaft Shark line cutters ahead of props. Shaft Savers to dampen shaft vibrations (and to make space for the Shaft Sharks). 6 group 31s plus three cranking batteries. They are Exide 31XPDs New 2018 Two Solbian 200W flexible solar panels on the bimini 2015 Three Cruisaire units, one for each community compartment. Two are relatively new. One is older. New sea water pump and most hoses new 2017 Wedge desk with monitor on arm to make forward V birth an office. Mast trimmed to allow 17 foot clearance in fresh water (with folding anchor light down and anemometer removed). You can get under all the bridges on the Great Loop. 10 Taylor fenders, plus two large ball fenders Heavy duty twin 30 foot snubbers, plus one light duty 18 foot snubber. Lifesling rescue throwable with line. Emergency boarding ladder Swim platform and folding swim latter Stainless railing. No teak on deck, except for bow pulpit. New carpet fore and aft in 2014. Washer/Dryer Princess propane stovetop and oven, new 2014 Corian counter top, new 2014 Raritan PuraSan Type 1 MSD, new 2016 All sanitary hoses and PVC new 2016 Vacu-Flush toilets use 1/2 pint of fresh water a flush. 2017 Freshwater and deckwash pumps new 2017 Four person life raft, new 2015, Westerbeke 7.6KW Gen Set new 2014 450hrs Brownies 120V surface air supply (a hookah) with 60 feet of hose and a secondary regulator and mouthpiece 2014 Spotless engine room Beautiful teak and mahogany interior A serious amount of money has been spent on electronics, twin 12" Garmin headunits with integrated radar, transmit and receive AIS, programmable autopilot , there is around $6,000 just in HD maps alone... We were very lucky and happened to be in the right place at the right time..... The gearbox oil cooler is the one being sold on eBay I haven't had it in the air to see it yet but it's got to be better than letting the original fail and take out the gearbox... The naivety of most Americans in their own country is astonishing, I do actually enjoy being there though.... weird...!!! Panama City FL, where the boat is, is very close to Alabama so they say "yau'll have a nice day now" We hired a GMC Yukon XL, they are massive and we enjoyed the 4,000 miles we did around Florida, the roads are easy and most of the locals are very friendly and helpful... Anyway back to the important bit... the Lexus is still doing well, I popped into Lexus this morning and ordered a set of number plates with my personal reg on and asked for some carpet mat clips, they found some clips and gave me them FOC and the number plates will be ready in a few days.. Been having a look around and cleaning it a bit and the 4 new tyres are the wrong size...!! they are 225/45/18's and it should have 245/45/18's it's only 18mm less on the diameter and 20mm on the width, not a huge issue but another reason to get rid of the Pirelli run flats which are quite noisy and hard... The aircon does have gas in it as the valve hisses when I shoved a key in it but not enough to get the air cool... it was cold the day I picked it up so difficult to tell... I'll pop and see a little man I know who can top it up.... It has one front parking sensor that has failed so I have ordered 6 new ones for the front from some guy in China who can make 6 and send them halfway around the world for a total cost of less than £25 for all of them, and he is still making a profit...!!! Apart from that it all seems good...

Anything for you here Phil: http://lexus-doc(blocked word)/ileaf/lex98rm/98rmsour/1998/98ls400r/bo/readoo/disa.pdf http://lexus-doc(blocked word)/ileaf/lex98rm/98rmsour/1998/98ls400r/bo/readoo/comp.pdf http://lexus-doc(blocked word)/RepairManual1998.php

Well I'm guessing he's bought something more befitting a man of his advancing years!

Will almost certainly have an F-Sport model. No word on an ES-F but I presume Lexus would make it AWD if they went for it. Having said that, if they don't make an ES-F, it leaves the door open for the comeback of an IS-F for its next generation in 2020