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Yep, that's basically what happened with me except it was the hybrid battery that was faulty. So after some "discussion" with the dealer (non-lexus) and me showing that I knew exactly what my rights were and they were basically going to end up spending a lot of money if they didn't find an agreement, they ended up refunding a good chunk of my purchase price and I got it fixed by Richard at hybrid battery solutions. So with a brand new hybrid battery, the car cost total £2800, including what I got back from selling the old battery cells on ebay which isn't bad at all! 🙂 As with most dealers I've found, they also tried to blag that it wasn't their responsibility e.t.c. till I showed them I actually knew what the law was. Unfortunately sometimes used car dealers do live up to their reputations.

OK here's one to be going on with with a special nod to David's experience up the Grossglockner Pass, although I might have posted this story before. As I have said my van was unusual in that it had a 4 speed gearbox. However it would not stay in first gear and would just drop out under load. One weekend in the early seventies we decided to drive from Ambleside up to the Kirkstone Inn, a narrow little road with several 1 in 4 hills. All went well until we reached the final steep bit and the poor old van just couldn't make it in 2nd gear so we turned round in a gateway and stormed up the last ascent in reverse. Only trouble with that was it was (for the Lake District) a hot sunny day so the engine overheated and we arrived in the carpark opposite the inn in a great cloud of steam and to a round of cheering and applause from the customers sitting outside in the sunshine!!! JBP

As reported elsewhere, I was there in my LS400 Mk1 (visible on the video at around 8:25, along with me chatting to friends). I'll put some of my photos in this thread when I get them edited. It's a great show, full of stuff which is in a significant minority and often overlooked at 'normal' classic car shows. I've been to it several times previously since 2016, so far I've managed to take a different car each time. Edit: Only 40-odd seconds in and my car makes an appearance here...... In this video:

This is my kind of car show, with a great walk around by Ian Hubnut. I just love ordinary cars - if I had a fantasy barn it would have to include a Skoda Estelle, Lada Riva, Hillman Imp, VW Lupo, Volvo 340, Toyota Corona (1975 vintage) Renault 5, Renault 25, Alfa 75, Peugeot 205, Vauxhall Chevette and a Daihatsu Move just for a start…🤪

But why? What makes you feel uncomfortable about people looking at a 16-year old car on here, as opposed to people seeing it on the streets? Of course, you don't have to answer, but I'm just struggling and genuinely curious to understand the actual rationale behind your decision. Whatever happens, I genuinely wish you good luck and a speedy sale if that's what you want.

As far as topics go, this one has moved off on a tangent but it served its purpose long ago, so why not drift a bit? Your original point was that the RX300 is heavy on petrol and we all know that anyway, so I don't know what else can be said.

Hi David, You cannot play music from usb disks whilst AA/ACP is active. It is one or the other. There are two usb ports in the centre console, which are for both power and data (usb music, AA, ACP etc). There are two in the centre stack under the climate control buttons which are for charging only. There are two in the back (well, middle row in the RXL) in the centre arm rest I believe. (In the non L model they are below the rear climate vents). These are again just for charging. Paul

I apologise for not updating this topic earlier. Because ChipsAway is a franchise and dependent on the individual franchisee's skills, I made some enquiries and found that the guy who covers this area has an impeccable record and many, many good reviews, so I went with him and I was not disappointed. He did an absolutely brilliant job and charged me £120. I would highly recommend David Houghton to anyone in his catchment area for the sort of jobs ChipsAway would do. For bigger jobs I use a guy who is a coachbuilder and who usually does restoration work on E-Type Jags, Bentleys, Porches and even military vehicles like a Hillman Tilly that he has in there at the moment.

I think you are worrying yourself unnecessarily, the probability of you having your cat stolen is infinitely lower than the probability of you having an accident.

Well I’m kinda coming to my own conclusion that they have cut the gpf but the way it’s been cut means I need new exhaust parts aswell thinking they are on an rx getting the cat either way over the coming days I will get to the bottom of this an will share my findings an raise awareness help stop this happening to other nx owners

I think the recorded delivery rejection letter would have been sent by now, car taken back to the lot and keys through the letterbox.

Thank you so much for that info Colin It mostly went over the top really your Knowledge astounds me, it is great to have some one on our Forum that as this level of expertise It was only curiosity that led me to ask the question my 450 is running like a dream all the power that i need on tap I Did think it was not as quick as the mk3 SEL i had but that may not be the case it just felt like it, Also now that the Goodyear Eagles are bedded in (i hav done 2K on them) the car is whisper quiet and the slight rumble frorm passenger side as completly gone. Mind if i am on a really bad road you can hear the road but on normal well kept roads it is very quiet so all in all very pleased. Once again Colin and Chris thank you for the info Robert

This is seriously bad luck, Grant. Yours is the first NX I've heard of having the cat stolen as they're difficult (we thought) to get to. Sounds like your thieves went to a lot of trouble. Hopefully doesn't start a spate!

John, that has brought back wonderful memories for me. When I passed my test in 1974, my father had a Ford 400E for his small holding. I drove it for over year. It had the 3 speed box (column change the same). My uncle, who was in partnership with my father, worked for Rediffusion. He had an option to buy the vans they were getting rid of. My father worked for the local bus company and he was able to get old bus seats. My uncle fitted out the 400E (1963?) with bench seats and a home made roof rack. We joined him and his family for a holiday in Yugoslavia, camping. $ adults and 4 children - no seat belts - no ABS - no air conditioning. All the way to Porec on the Istra peninsula. It took us three days to get there and 3 days back. 8 days on the campsite! An experience few people can contemplate, at the time it was done.

When I first started driving in 1969 petrol was 5 shillings (25p) a gallon and beer was 1 shilling and sixpence (7.5p) a pint. Not that I combined the two of course! JBP

There seems to be quite a few inaccuracies in the quote you found. Firstly I assuming they are talking about the 2GR-FKS rather than the 2GR-FXS as they refer to the GS350. This engine was introduced to the GS in the 2016 facelift. It adopts Toyota VVT-iW technology - the W standard for Wide and allows the intake timing to be further altered from standard VVT-i which does allow the engine to move into an Atkinson mode when under partial load and operates in Otto mode for the rest of the time. This is performed by solenoid and oil pressure as normal. The engine does not use VVT-iE which uses an electric motor to control intake timing - this is used on the LS and the F engine in the GS F, RC F and LC500. This allows wide operation, as VVT-iW, but with advantage that intake timing can be changed when the engine is at idle, when oil pressure isn't strong enough to use the hydraulic method. This engine was not adopted in the GS450h, it kept the 2GR-FXE even with the facelift. The 2GR-FXS is the hybrid adapted version of the 2GR-FKS - it is used in the series IV RX450h, not in the GS450h.

I thought you might find this useful. It’s information on dealing with used car dealers. It includes such goodies as a specimen letter of complaint, your rights under the Consumer Protection Act 2015 - and how to get a refund. https://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/advice/how-to-complain-about-a-car-dealer-atBv04B9OXas https://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/letter/letter-rejecting-a-new-or-used-car-bought-from-a-dealer-aeziX3M7tYNw Should just about cover it!

When I read this, I have to say my flabber was well and truly gasted! If this dealer is a part of a larger Group, then I would suggest a registered letter to the Group CEO detailing your complaints will concentrate minds. The Dealer certainly has the right to have the chance to rectify faults, but you cannot be placed in a position of loss as a result of their failure to fulfil the Contract they entered in to. My first reaction here would be to name this Dealer. If other posters have had similar experiences with them this may well resolve the question as to whether you persevere with this car or get an immediate refund - which you are entitled to have as the vehicle sold to you was not in the condition you were told it would be! Where to start? Well, if you're a member of the AA/RAC or similar (and if not, why not?) then I would call their Legal Department. They've been dealing with Use Car Dealers for decades! the vehicle was not buffed (while the dealer told me it will be), and when I mentioned it to him, he said, these scratches can not be buffed. Depends on whether he made the second statement before or after you'd bought it! Nonsense. The legal limit is 1.6mm but I doubt any tyre maker would recommend going below 3mm. The Tread Wear Indicators are there for a reason. This is a clip from the Continental Tyre website: Tread wear indicators are spaced evenly through the main grooves in the tyre tread. If they are flush with the level of the tread, then the tyre must be replaced. You have to question the competence of a workshop that fits a new windscreen and doesn't check the Auto Wipe function. Of course it should be working! The dealer says, the vehicle has 12 months full Lexus Warranty. You should have been given a copy. Check the conditions that apply. The faults of which you are complaining are of their own making and a result of their failure to honour their side of the Sales Contract. You should not be inconvenienced or caused a loss as a result. So if you wanted to persevere with this car I would be inclined to state that they will collect it, leave you with a courtesy vehicle as you need one for work etc and return the car to you in the condition you had paid for. Which includes new tyres and functioning Auto Wipe. Their other option is an immediate refund. Oh, and I'd probably be less inclined to deal with them in the future! Remember, right now is when you are in the strongest negotiating position.

In this instance I would look for an experienced bodyshop, an outlet with good reviews or perhaps someone who is recommended by word of mouth. You could even ring the Lexus dealer and ask if the can recommend a body shop. Not all chipsaway franchises are good - it all depends on the skill of the person working on your car, A family member used chips away a couple of years ago and had to baby sit the guy (took him 3 atempts to get it right) and now the laquar is starting to peel off.

Hi Gays, Some of you know me already, but never had a chance to introduce myself to F-family officially. I've currently own 16 reg GSF in blue, red leather seats, ML. No sun roof. Car was previously owned by CB. As I've tried to buy XFR before GSF, I've been invited to join meet up at Viezu last Saturday. If anyone is interested you can see pictures and videos from that event in below links. (hopefully you don't mind seening Jags 😉) https://www.facebook.com/122618367749940/posts/4686328698045528/ https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10158548944996859&id=517376858

When I got mine in June they had it priced at £250 and that was all including fitting which I have to say is really good as you do see some cars with wires all over and the place, plus I would not trust Halfords. Connecting to the app with my iPhone is fine however the app itself could be so much better.

Well you could post photos - we LIKE photos!

I bought NME208 (New Musical Expres/ Radio Luxembourg!) in 1969 when it was 6 years old for £60. After four and a half years of ownership and 100,000 miles later (I used to use it to commute from Milton Keynes to London) I sold it without an MOT for £45. Lots more stories to tell but I might save them for later. JBP

Body shops are the way to go. Even if only to get their advice. A good body shop will have the camera system and computer. The camera scans the car at a myriad of locations angles etc then the computer makes a paint code to match that car. Why? Because older cars fade. Spraying brand new paint on a faded car is pointless as it'll show like a sore thumb. Not all body shops have this expensive system so a visit in person is the only way to go. Luckily I know of such a body shop of which I've posted previously. Red is a bugger of a colour to match and I thoroughly recommend go round body shops and check them out.

I agree with Scudney. Everything in life is a risk so stop worrying and just enjoy the car - especially given that every petrol car has a cat so every car is at risk anyway.

Goodyear Efficient Grip for me this time around. I mainly only ever consider Michelin and Goodyear tyres.

Here is one of the few photos I have of my old Thames van, NME208. My friend taking the picture owned 606UKX. This was when eight of us likely lads were about to embark on a tour of the continent in the two vans back in 1972. Yes, John (Royoftherovers,) it did have vacuum driven wipers. The speed was infinitely variable (when they were working properly) by a little knob in the middle of the dashboard. More often than not though the diagphram in the vacuum pump would split. The wipers would still work but slowed to a crawl when going uphill and then went berserk going downhill. David, my van had an Ercol two seater settee in the back for the extra passengers - very posh! All very different from a Lexus.

My view too 👍

Kendo Nagasaki? 😀

It was a popular vehicle in its day especially within the construction industry and cheaper than the equivalent Ford saloon. And did it have vacuum wipers John?

It was a Ford Thames 15cwt van, John. Unusual in that it had a 4 speed gearbox rather than the normal 3 speed. If you weren't careful when changing from 2nd to 3rd gear the column mounted gear lever would move to the new position but the sloppy rod linkages to the gearbox would stay in 2nd gear and the whole lot would jam solid. The solution was to stop the van, crawl underneath and jiggle the rods free before getting back in to carry on with your journey. Oh the memories! JBP

And in 1969 John, your first car was ?? Do tell us about the RX you have bought B4U2. Age, mileage, colour, owners etc.

The gold badged editions were tuned to go slightly quicker. Next day delivery to any dark corner of Cambs can be arranged 🤣

I am well versed in such matters Len. Your presence now lightens my responsibility to inform. As I have mentioned previously to you Len, you should have joined us a long time ago. (I remember why you couldn`t though)

Obviously been out in the cold, get it closer to the fire 😎

Len, you are a breath of fresh air!👍👍

Both the RX and GS hybrids at that age were Otto engines, only the Prius was Atkinson. I imagine that emissions/economy weren't the highest priority on these vehicles as they were sold on their performance more than anything else and possibly didn't warrant the extra engine R&D needed when they weren't sure on how well they would sell. The GS450h series III vs IV - the are quite similar in power as Chris has stated, the engine is slightly down but the hybrid performance is up so the total system power is the same, as are the performance times. On the RX side the series III 450h is slower than the series II 400h despite a larger engine, but that is a result of the series III being a larger vehicle.

I have just heard back from the dealership telling me they have fixed the steering wheel problem for me. At least I get the car back in one piece. Again thanks all for your help and opinion.

I got them to £25k With a major spark plug service at Lexus being done plus 2 new rear Michelin’s thrown in. I know I’ve paid over but the car is gorgeous and if I didn’t snap it up someone else would. Previous owner had it 9 years, it’s been cherished. Rear and passenger seat don’t even look used. It’s an early final facelift with black leather. This is a keeper for me.

I don’t understand it. Drive what you want to drive and have some empathy with people who want to drive something else.

ROFL that's why I drove like a granny.

It's a forum where people with different opinions and viewpoints come together to discuss them. Just in the same way you will reply to this comment with your own justification.... I don't have an SUV or own one, the one I am discussing is my partners. I am not justifying its purchase because it was purchased solely by her. I am only highlighting why it was purchased and the needs and wants of the person buying it. I'm surprised I am having to explain this but one should never assume intelligence or the understanding of others. Anyway.....It's clear that there is a bias against SUV's by some and a frustration because there are more and more on the market, but that I am affraid is something those frustrated are just going to have to get over. Needs and wants change often in this day and age and I certainly would never have the audacity to question someone's purchase because of my own views. But the world is generally an unhappier place nowadays so the feeling of self importance is greater than the need to understand that some people are just different. Being that my partner is a senior global marketing manager I will let her know that the reason she has the car she does is purely down to marketing, and that she doesn't really want it. She'll appreciate the humour in that as do I just reading some of the replies.

Well I have finally made a purchase. Wasn’t too keen on a Carbon, as a child of the 1950’s a black bonnet on anything other than a black car is rather incongruous. Likewise I usually go for somber colours, I have had many silver cars. So I bought this……. Oh dear……

I also think it would not go anywhere as I don't have evidence. But I will try to complain to Lexus GB to see where it goes.

I changed all my passwords to Footloose. Now I have all Kenny Loggins!

Should have put it out as a loaner! 😛

My alarm has gone off a few times over the years. Same car as yours. It's always been an insect in the car. My solution has always been to turn off the movement sensor for a day or two until the insect escapes or dies. I particularly liked the story another contributor described on a similar thread. His alarm would go off at 1.30am each night to his great annoyance. Couldn't find the solution. Eventually his wife cracked it. Around 1.30 am each morning a fox strolled down the pavement outside the house. The next door neighbour had movement sensor floodlights and the fox passing by turned on the floodlights. The bright light made a moth in the car think it was daytime and it started fluttering about. The car thought there was an intruder and set off the alarm.

Yeah I doubt you would have a good result with a sonic paint. Not sure chips away would do an invisible repair either. The 5 coat paint process is difficult to replicate with a 1 or 2 pack paint - it just doesn't reflect the same in different light conditions.

I suppose what the thread shows is that we’re all different. While some take pleasure in detailing their cars for hours some are happy with a trip to the car wash and others are happy with a bucket & chamois leather. The main thing is to be happy

We take out car to the petrol station, drive it through the automatic washing machine and it is more or less clean. Wipe the rest of the water off with a couple of leather like towels ot whatever it is. 15 minutes, including controlling air pressure inn tyres now and then. Have done that with all our cars. Never polished a car in my life. Car looks good. We are satisfied. While selling/working with Fujitsu-10 audio equipment (only 3 years), when a car was to be exhibited, we let somebody polish it.