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No surprise to me that the ISF comes into Autocar magazine's list of depreciation busting performance cars. But Shhhh just don't tell everyone !! "There are certain performance cars on the second-hand market that are so well-regarded – and that are in sufficient demand – that their values are set in stone. Pick the right one and it’ll probably owe you nothing two or three years down the road. You could get back every penny you paid for it". "post-2011 IS Fs still command £25,000, while the earliest cars are trading hands for around £18,000. It’s unlikely they’ll slip much further" "IS F is exceptionally rare, which is exactly what will keep values strong in years to come." Well we knew that I guess but it's what Autocar think too, and its certainly more fun than keeping the keeping the money in the bank! I just need to wait until the RC F reaches a similar status before I raid the bank again https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/features/beating-depreciation-performance-cars-cost-nothing-own

Like cars, watch collecting is fun at all price points. You don’t have to own expensive cars or watches to enjoy them.

Hello all! Had my GSF for just over a year, only really now getting involved with the whole 'club' aspect of car ownership as I never had the time before! Found a few other random GSF owners on instagram and was directed here! Daily driven for the past year, couple of worthy road trips and about 16k miles later, all I can say is I 'F'-ing love my GS. For anyone heading to Simply Japanese at Beaulieu Motor Museum, hope to catch you there! Kieran

Hi, we go from Ardrossan to Brodick Lochranza to Claonaig, Oban to Castlebay, Ardmhor ( Barra) to Eriskay, Berneray to Leverburgh, Tarbet to Uig, and finally Armadale to Mallaig, then drive back to Cheshire. Accomadation and ferries all booked 8-20 th May and looking forward to it. Decided LS best car for journey and trust all goes well, cheers, Roger

I too am a lower-league man (probably non-league really!) but I love my Skagen and my Longines Conquest, I also have a 1961 Hefik.

I love watches, but I am in a very different, lower league than you guys. Mine are Philip Starck O-Ring (orange/steel), Skagen, Ingersoll, Xeric Halograph, and others...

What I am hoping and expecting is that isf prices will bolster rcf and Rcf will bolster lcf much like the Elise bolsters the exige and the exige bolsters the Evora. If the top price isf cars are listed at 25 I would expect rcf to remain 5k plus above it at all times.

Hi everyone, Not sure if this would interest anybody, but after recently purchasing my LS430 I found a CD inside the owners manual. There was no real labeling except a list of PC requirements. So after firing up my old Windows machine to investigate it appears to be an interactive owners manual for the following models: IS200 / IS300 GS300 / GS430 LS430 RX300 RX400h SC430 It includes information about each model and their features, a selection of wallpapers and even screen savers (although I imagine they probably won't work on modern computers) Anyway I thought I'd share the contents with you guys in case anybody is interested. I created an ISO image from the disc. Providing you're running Windows 10, double click the file and it will auto mount as a CD. Run the "Lexus.exe" file and the program should run. Download Link: https://megaupload.nz/ka7aj4e1nb/Lexus_iso

I have been on this forum for a while so thought I would share my little journey. My first watch I ever really loved is the Seiko that my dad let me choose from his collection when I was 16. It originally had a gold bracelet but after 4 years of abuse it was ruined. I wore the watch daily until my wife (then my girlfriend) bought me the white dial tommy hilfigure watch. That then became my daily for the next 4 years. Both are worth nothing in terms of pounds but to me they are both priceless. I intend to get the Seiko professionally finished soon and start wearing it again. A change in job bought in additional income when I was 27 and that’s when my research really started. Like many I thought tag was the nuts and impulse bought a aquaracer. The crown threaded its self and i returned it for a full refund. During my time with the tag I researched watches a lot and ended up replacing it with the seamaster Aqua Terra golf. I still love this watch! It will always be my first real watch. The little green details make it for me. The exhibition back really is lovely and the movement looks superb. It is wearable in all situations but for me is more dress than sports. Also I learned the hard way that places like iconic watches exist having bought for 5% discount from a boutique when I could have got 20% off! I decided the omega attracted too much attention at work for me so fancied something a bit cheaper, still smart, rubber strap for hot weather and I could swim with. Enter the longines conquest sport roughly 6 months after the omega purchase. This watch has travelled with me on many adventures and has been worn every day for 4 years with the omega coming out on weekends and during time off work. My funds then went in to cars and motorbikes which are my primary passion. This year I had to sell my car in preperation for a house purchase next year so treated myself to a new watch. The idea being to replace the longines as a daily. I wanted a understated sports watch with a power reserve long enough to see out the weekend and also chronometer. This means I can swap out for my omega on Saturday and the new watch won’t stop ticking when put back on for Monday. The accuracy also means not having to amend the time as frequently as I do with my longines. It had to be able to go in the pool and ocean and also be something different colour wise from my current watches. Initially I had looked at and tried in the Rolex explorer 2 polar and was convinced this would be the watch.....I actually almost bought it twice last year. Enter the blue pelagos. I was ready to pull the trigger on the Rolex then tried on the pelagos having seen it on this forum and that was it. The blue is stunning, deployment clasp is genius, accuracy is amazing, all brushed effect, epic lume and comes with a rubber strap. I don’t regret the decision at all. All my watches are bought with a purpose and never with the intention of selling. Each has memories associated with it and reflect the time in my life they were acquired. Looking at them remind me of people and places. They are all special to me. Anyway, well done if you made it through that drivel! My attention will be turning back to cars soon and then again to watches. I quite fancy the IWC pilot range. Stu https://photos.app.goo.gl/vgRGylzHVm1l70kz1

130k a year! That's an average of over 350 miles a day. No wonder he can go for crazy long intervals, that's perfect operating conditions for an engine.

I am afraid once the 12 volt battery is discharged you cannot get the car into neutral meaning the front wheels are locked! Apart from re- instating the 12 volt supply there is no way to get the car out of park. John.

One to put a smile on our faces........As an ex SC430 owner still looking for an opportunity (and cash!) to return to the fold I keep a lazy eye on autotrader to see what pops up. The Lexus Dealer in Hatfield has a gorgeous 2004 SC with only 31500 miles up for £12950, a not insignificant price but look at some of the things you get: Optitron instruments, adaptive front lighting/AFS, LED rear lights and Bluetooth......... link to ad below Except you don’t get any of these because the car is 2004 and the above only came with the facelift car in 05/06. They even include a photo of the instrument panel which proves the car doesn’t have an Optitron panel. Lexus Hatfield also describe their SC as a ‘Sports Coupe’, which is the first time I’ve seen that phrase and the SC put together. Should they be told......? I guess someone will pay that price, but I hope they check the spec first. Lexus Hatfield

As Phil. Fill tank with Shell V pOWER/Optima or similar,then give it an Italian Tune Up before arriving at MOT station.

I don't claim to know a lot about hybrids, and my car isn't one, but this doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to me. No engine is "stressed" when it's running under normal conditions, and oil is not well preserved in an engine when it isn't running, quite the opposite. Moisture builds up in the crankcase and only gets vented off through the CCV when the engine is run up to temperature for a period of time. This is why engines with an "oil quality sensor" (which I also don't trust) generally indicate a longer interval in miles the more the car is driven, and why if a car is barely driven at all you should still probably change the oil every 6 months. Motorway miles are really good on the engine, it's pretty much ideal conditions, so if you change your oil and then put 5k motorway miles on it in a short space of time with 100+ mile trips then your oil will likely look brand new when you look at the dipstick. Maybe there's something else about hybrids that I don't know that changes this equation but I'm struggling to imagine how. Maybe it deliberately runs it up to temperature and then duty cycles it to keep it there? Seems a bit of a stretch given that the main goal of those systems is better fuel mileage and lower emissions. The manufacturer really doesn't care if the car makes it past 100k miles as long as it makes it out of the warranty period. In any case you'll never save enough money on oil changes to even begin to pay for a major engine repair. I've heard from a garage owner a year or two ago that the number of 2008+ cars from companies like BMW and Audi coming in with <100k miles on them needing a new engine is "phenomenal" and he was convinced it was because of the manufacturer's extended oil change intervals.

Thank you, I used exactly this advert and ordered them from Black Circle, had 4 of them delivered to my local Lexus dealer and had them fitted and the 4 wheel alignment. Needed to get 4 fitted as the existing tyres were odd and had a puncture in one only a month into ownership. Left with 2 Bridgestone Duelers with 5.2/4.8/5.4 and 6.3/6.2/5.7 mm across them, plus an Avon ZX7 with 6.6/7.1/6.8 on it, any ideas on what to do with them? Don't really think I will need them with 4 new Cross Climates and I assume no good even as spares due to different tread patterns etc? Is there a sales and wants area on here? I have not located it as only just moved over to Lexus from Mitsubishi. First post virginity popped...

Tacky.. Doesn't your GS come with a clock?

Even though no warning lights on the dash I would definitely check for any codes and all the better if done with Techstream.

More dribble about ride quality 🙈 Rear tyre wear. Really? It’s not bad at all, and I used to spank mine. IS-F, an excellent car. And it doesn’t suffer from some of the issues associated with the RC-F.

If you weren't getting these two codes before replacing the sensors then it's likely to be linked to the new work you've done. Checking connectors etc, as suggested, will help. If you replaced the sensors with the battery still connected there's a possibility you shorted something. Disconnecting the battery for an hour or so ought to reset the ECU. The engine running fine with the kit attached may well be because the kit is stopping the emissions system from functioning properly. In this case you really want to test the engine with the O2 sensors disconnected. That'll throw other codes but won't give u limp mode.

Check how much material is left on your pads, from experience when they get to be about 3/4 worn they start to emit the most awful intermittent screeching noise that lasts for about 50 miles Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

And I am taking the LS to the Outer Hebrides in 3 weeks time for a 2 week holiday

I've purchased Blueprint upper arms and drop links. They are being fitted tomorrow so will update you. I'll get the garage to keep the old ones and see if they can spot anything else with the suspension apart.

I knew about the aftermarket sensor problem so used genuine parts.

Thanks for the welcome John, I'm planning on keeping the service history up and a visit to Lexus Cheltenham is on the cards, it's been almost two years since it's last service but in that time it's only done just over 500 miles, I'm thinking I should probably get it serviced anyway. Cheers Dan

I've found that my concerns over owning an LS430 are pointless. I've spent too much time thinking about what "may" go wrong. I would just have it serviced and get all the bushes and joints checked and go from there. My last one was a 2001 on 118k with no joint or bush problems.

Thanks Steve, i did try the garden hose down the filler pipe as you kindly suggested. There's a small flap under the filler cap, so pushed through that, them 18" downthe tube there's what seems like another flap, so pushed through that and into the tank i would imagine. I didn't go far beyond this second flap as it was digging into the pipe as i pulled it back again and trying to prevernt the withdrawl.Didn't seem to be a blockage . I assume that the rising head of fuel as you are filling must open this bottom flap and let petrol into tank? Mike

There is a breather pipe from the tank to the filler pipe which vents air from the tank when filling up which may be blocked. Either that or there’s a blockage in the filler pipe. Have you tried pushing a piece of plastic tube down the filler to see if there is an obstruction?

Old Pollen filter?

Good luck to your wife Peter. Nice looking CL interior. Would love to have those seats in my LS. I loved my S320CDI's seat. The rest of the car was unreliable and expensive to fix.

i actually enjoyed Grand Tour in Mongolia, but then i have a great connection with that country that made me enjoy it more. GT is better than TG but i will watch both. (just realised how close those abbreviations really are)

Also sorry to hear of your predicament, and trust your wife makes a full recovery. Love the boat and your photos and reports ,Rgds,Roger

Peter Firstly let me add to the good wishes you have received for your Wife and her recovery,I to spent many happy years in the south west Florida region around the Fort Myers area fishing and boating. Later this summer we are embarking on a epic month long tour of the National Parks bespoke driving organised by a renowned vacation planner,usual Yellowstone, Yosemite,and eight others over six states.Will be driving a ford edge which I have used before in the US not as nice as a 400 but still pretty good. With regard to the steering wheel ,yes I agree with your sentiments fortunately mine is still mint but that is useful info.

Hi Paul/Storm thanks and yes that's what I would expect.. no oil used between the 10k. I had a Mondeo for 12 years and that didn't use oil ! and that was a 2L TDCi ! Its in for a service next week and I will be keeping a close eye on it.. I almost hope they find a leak to account for it and not what I suspect which is its burning it.

Don't get me wrong, I love mechanical watches, particularly skeleton watches, the working movement fascinates me. We were in Switzerland in the spring (as part of our road trip) and my wife offered to buy me a Swiss made watch for my birthday. What an idiot, I said no! Still, at least my cracked face timepiece still just about works.

I remember years ago two watches were tested, one a Rolex, the other a 99p disposable. Guess which kept the best time?

Nice. There was a big delivery of the hard to get Rolex and Tudor watches in the last 2 weeks. You are lucky they are not tataining the card for a year. Personally I don’t subscribe to watches being investmensts. The ss Rolex sports watch bubble will burst and watches will sell used for around list at some stage. Prices are too close to two tone at the moment. Also, money well invested will make far more than a watch never worn.

Ordered a Rolex Submariner non date 19 weeks ago and picked it up yesterday. Very lucky, as there seem to be huge waiting lists for the sports models. So much so, that unworn examples command a fairly high premium over list price. The dealer insisted on removing the protective stickers and retained the guarantee for 6 months, to discourage selling it on. Haven't even put it on yet or had the bracelet altered. Put masking tape on the back and sides to protect it and put it aside. Better than money in the bank. Also have a very battered Oyster, purchased 1989. Omega Chronostop, 1972. And Various Citizen Eco Drives for daily wear.

Great hobby. Can you tell me if there is any truth in "You can tell if its a real Rolex as it won't keep time"

Well I added another watch (Tudor black bay 58) to the slowly growing collection last week. Didn’t mean to but having tried on its bigger similar looking brother I had to put down a refundable deposit to be sure I didn’t want it. It’s a classic size with diameter of 39mm and height of 11.9mm. On the leather strap it’s an absolute corker. Once it arrived and I put it on it was only ever going to come home with me. Hadn’t intended to buy a watch until my 40th in 5 years but yeah.... couldn’t resist.

My old E350cdi would match it, but the Lexus is a nicer experience. Actually most of the components of the hybrid are quite simple ... a lazy 3.5L V6 and an electric motor. It is just the things which connects them which is complicated.

Nice, oris do some lovely watches and I almost bought one in favour of my longines when I was looking. I do like panerai, instantly recognisable.

My Oris GMT World timer decided to split its bracelet last week. I bought an Oris meistertaucher titanium from a Jewellery shop in Knutsford last month, it was brand new but had sat there since 2012. Cheekily I offered a grand for it and they took it! I don't think you beat Oris. If I was wealthy it would be a Panerai Chronograph though. Another world sadly. Sent from my G8141 using Tapatalk

Watches are cool. Good thread. I have a 20 year old Omega Seamaster which I’ve worn almost exclusively during those 7,000+ days. It’s been on four continents, been under the sea with me, was on my wrist when I met my wife and when my kids were born, and is one of my most prized possessions. A decade or so ago I spent some time in Hong Kong and acquired some ‘reproduction’ watches of variable quality, but we won’t talk about that sort of thing here. [emoji846] The Omega lives on my left wrist. On my right lives my FitBit, quietly logging the full extent of my athleticism (cough, cough) and also telling the time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

It's amazing what they can do to make my watch appear brand new each time. The 10-12 weeks turnaround is quite 'painful' my wrist feels very naked! (Stock photo) I still have the original bakelite box and all the paperwork for it. A dealer offered me £300 just for the box!

Hi all Mine is the same make as peter's a Brietling but a Navitimer Heritage had it 13 years now worn at weekends and holidays got it on now beautiful watch only problem is it costs £600 pounds for a overhaul but there overhaul means stripping down to a box off bits and comes back looking like brand new. This is similar to mine but has silver bezel mine has black. 65mike

Definitely! Make some memories with it and then hand it down as well. I love the idea of a watch (expensive or not) being in a family for many generations

My Breitling SuperOcean Professional, I've worn it everyday since purchasing it back in 2003. Costs more to service than my AMG did! Mind you, Mercedes don't completely dismantle, clean and re-calibrate their product at each service.

I inherited my Dad's Longines Conquest, beautiful watch. I only wear it for special occasions, perhaps I should wear it more often.

Music does it for me. I hear a song and I'm instantly transported back in time to the people and the things we were doing when I first heard it - and it's a lot cheaper and less painful than either watches or tattoos

I bought a Citizen Eco Drive when I got my first Lexus IS200 just because the dials looked the same as the cars. That was 19 years ago and it’s been worn every single day, been to lots of different country’s, swam in every ocean. Never lost time and never changed the battery yet. I’m still impressed when it changes the time automatically spring, autumn and when I enter a different country. Didn’t cost much and probably worth nothing now but could never change it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk