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It is worth saying this again Martin. I sold you a brilliant LS430, a car with impeccable history, a car that I should never have sold, a car which the current owner tells me is the best one he's ever had. Maybe, just maybe, if you had have kept it for more than just a few weeks, it may be you saying now it's the best car you've had. Just a thought.

I agree, but having had my RCF for a while now (and liking it more as time passes) I find it can do wafting very well indeed. I've concluded it's the AVS system, the other day I had a 200 mile round trip which included a fair bit of dual carriageway etc so knowing that the roads were littered with camera vans I decided to take more time leisurely drive so set everything for comfort. It compared very favourably to my CL65 which was a real wafter. On the way back I took the scenic route put it in Sports+ and Slalom on the TVD felt the suspension tighten up and had a good blast. This car does both really well.

you don't have to lie, however a few bad experiences doesn't make a brand bad. Shame about your experiences but these things do happen unfortunately

If it has been serviced by Lexus then it should have 0W-20 oil in it. If it is actually low then putting in some 5W-30 is better than nothing. I don't actually believe that message is for low oil, just a maintenance reminder.

I have one and love it. The problem I think would be is your RX is an SUV and being a hybrid its practical for everyday use. The LS is more than enjoyable but its not the sort of car you would treat the same as your RX in some ways. Sitting high is nice but also driving a long sleek saloon is as well. If you have the capital and space, why not have both?

No problem, Stephen, Argyll is a big area. If I lived in Campbeltown or Tobermory, I'd think twice about going all the way to Alexandria for a test drive!

apart from a few ( preventative ) major costs. like cambelt and waterpump and now UCAs ( on a couple of cars ) my 18 years and some 200k + miles of driving Ls400s has been nothing short of BRILLIANT ........... now remembering alternator trouble about 15 years but hey, most cars at an age suffer this other cars, marques I've had have never been troublesome either, just acceptable fair wear and tear with anticipated costs of running a working machine that will always require maintenance I suppose an alternative is simply to change one's car every couple of years from brand new and take on board the phenomenal usual depreciation .. and without the Ls400 comfort Good luck to you though Mr Doofa, sorry to see you go, you're now totally fed up with Lexus .. Ford's are great cars, after all many many millions of people globally buy them, change them for new ones and the old'uns go on and on for ever somewhere ( I guess ........... ) Malc

We could give you the best advice if we knew how much he would sell it for.

As mentioned in another topic, I'm looking to purchase a 2014/15 Series 3 model at some point this year. I had a good visit to my local Lexus dealership this morning. It was very quiet, so the helpful salesman had plenty of time to talk it through, let me look at other models etc. An RX is still definitely what I'm after, tempting as a GS450h Sport they had would have been - quick, but sadly no folding rear seat which limited its practicality and when could I use 155mph?! Jumpingjehovahs kindly let me have a drive of his RX last year and I'm happy from the driving experience and his real world thoughts that it will suit me very well. I have also been considering a Subaru Outback and Mazda 6 with the new 2.5-litre engine, but I think the former would be too thirsty and the latter wouldn't be much of a step on from my current Avensis (although the 6 is an attractive car). The white 64-reg Premier with 43k miles at Cambridge is what I'm in negotiation over. The optimistic price will be reduced....... Given that this car breaks two of my three stipulations (I was trying to avoid white paint, air suspension and panoramic roof - at least this one has a sunroof) and it is significantly more than I've ever paid for a car before, I'd just like to satisfy myself on a few things: I've read of reliability issues with air suspension on earlier models, but are there any issues with the late series 3? Are there any other unique toys on the Premier which might cause a problem? What service should be due next? On some cars I've noticed an additional tax that's payable based on its original list price until the car is five years old, will that apply here? I hope not, I'm looking forward to this being one cost that's less than my current Avensis. I'd have been quite happy with a Luxury or Advance, so the extra equipment levels on the Premier aren't critical to me. Remember I currently drive an Avensis and have a fleet of various older cars going back to a very basic 1973 Datsun which doesn't even have carpets, so any RX would seem very plush. I'm sure I'll enjoy the ventilated seats, ML stereo etc but I don't really want to pay too much extra for the privilege. I'd be grateful for any thoughts/comments please. Thanks.

Gents 2 years after taking ownership of my 98 LS400, I’ve now moved to the dark side having acquired a 2006 Jaguar x350 XJR. I was impressed by the Lexus, as it did everything I needed it to with aplomb. It was hugely efficient but not one to stir the soul and this is the primary reason for selling. Having moved from London to Woking during my ownership, there are decent roads on my doorstep, so driver involvement has become a higher priority. The Jag appears similarly refined, averages 30mpg (good for a 400bhp V8) and handles like a much smaller car - very strange sensations for a 1700kg car. The Lexus has gone to a LOC forum member (via Pistonheads), so hopefully it will continue to be enthusiast owned. I’ve enjoyed my time here. All the best Shirish

Pending me test driving it and seeing the paperwork mots etc I have offered 11.5, I'm not being deliberately harsh he just came at me unexpectedly and just after Christmas too, I've only just had my RX serviced and also I insured it last week so I'm smarting a bit! We'll see what happens

I could argue that mesa red is the only colour in the current line up. All the rest are 50 shades of grey. But I'm biased.

UPDATE 17 hours on my AA 1 amp trickle charger was OK, and it started. A one mile drive to the petrol station to fill up, involved another start. This was OK but 'not quite' normal. 110 miles on the motorway to Birmingham and a stop, gave 'all back to normal sound'. 300 more miles over 3 days, and I have forgotten about it as all is very normal. Next year a slow slow trickle charge after 10 days me thinks.

You pay your money and take your chance I guess.

Good evening everyone. Well, it looks like my car has made the headlines again! I am the owner and the one selling it. Nice to see some of the members appreciate the car for what it is. I think a few direct replies are in order: Firstly, thank you Razor61 for your kind comments on the condition. Its actually been a private collection vehicle for over the last ten years (previous owner) including myself. Its not been a daily driver, but why not make it one? Life is for living. Regarding its value, well its like most things in life. My view is you only get what you pay for. Then there is the fact that it is a rather nice car, rare DHP specification, low mileage, condition etc. I have a track record of owning, using, restoring and selling the LS400. Many times my cars appear on this forum to be talked about, a lot (not everyone) say they are over priced, yet I have sold enough of them to know what can and can not be achieved. Every one I have had has sold to someone who appreciates the car and the examples I have had, to the point that they bought them. I only use/sell nice cars, and this is one is no exception. If you have a change of heart then please let me know. Thank you Vlady! Very much appreciated. Not quite. I started advertising this one in August last year. The 110k model sold to gentleman in the west of Scotland. A true gentleman he was too with a great knowledge and passion for classic cars. I also sold my Father's Astral Black LS400 last year as well to a gentleman in Brighton for not much less than this Cashmere one (not that it matters what it sold for). The market as you say can dictate pricing, but then you have to be in the market to know how its performing. Someone else will come along with one, its only a matter of time. When something is rare, it commands a price. Mileage, condition, history and demand also plays a significant role. No one needs an LS400. In fact, no one needs a Lexus. We all want to buy what we want to have. I buy what I like and admire. When you consider values of Porsche's, vintage BMW's, even classic Range Rover's they have all shot up in price. Some don't sell right away and prices need to be adjusted, but cars are like art and if its a good example then values are going to be more than the run of the mill. Royoftherovers, I could say a few things here but I will restrain myself. For the avoidance of doubt though and for the benefit of having a fair playing field in being able to defend myself I am letting everyone know that I am the registered owner of the car and have been for nearly two years. I am a car collector not a full blown trader with a dealership or a dodgy back street garage. I on occasion buy cars with the intention to sell and I am up front with everyone I deal with. Thank you for your comments Stupot, but again my ownership has been explained above. You are right though, I only need one to buy it. Just one. Jpjsavage, not quite a year yet. I do appreciate your view on my car being 'over the market price' but if you can tell me what the market price is that would be great (ideally those under 100,000 miles). I think some knowledge on the LS400 market is needed. Currently the market as I see it is around 30 cars in total. I do recall your LS600 purchase well. A lot of car for the money. Did they re-spray the passenger side for you as I do remember seeing the doors were a different shade of silver? You actually got in touch about two of my cars before but alas we did not have deal between us. Interesting. I remember the car being advertised for £2,500 and within an hour it was sold. How did the seller get his asking price? Only £3,000 between a Mk3 and Mk4 DHP - not an awful lot in my opinion. Again, not quite two years Messi. I sold one of my Mk4 DHP's with 28,000 miles to a dealer called T.H.Boler for £9,000. He sold it for £13,000 two weeks later. Figure that one out! You see Malc, you just hit the nail in the head. Your running a 217k mile LS400 and using it every day, good for you! Now, someone could have mine and be driving a very smart and rare modern classic knowing that it could reach over 200,000 miles and knowing that using it every day and doing 15k a year would mean there is potentially another ten years worth of motoring left in it before it reaches your mileage. And, it only costs them £8,995 for such a wonderful machine! What great cars these are indeed! Thank you Jazz&coffee, very kind of you to say so. All the best everyone.

Hi Jason Yes it is what used to be called the Premier but has now been renamed Takumi. It has the standard ride with sport and sport plus modes. As we are still early days have not tried the sports modes yet, but the standard ride seems to be noticeably smoother than previous. We no longer notice the poor quality of the local roads and performance is noticeable better. Regards Tony

As Colin has said 0W - 20 oil and the message is an oil service reminder.

For the best fuel economy you should use a 0w20 synthetic oil. However the make of the oil is not rely a problem. In the hand book it will give a minimum specification for the oil, such as API SL, SM, or ILSAC, and as long as the oil you have meets or exceeds that specification it will be fine to use. If your oil level on the dipstick is at the low mark or below any engine oil is better than no oil. John.

looking at your problem have you checked the hybrid safety battery plug, apparently the Hybrid battery safety plug could be somehow loose and not connecting properly, check this video out. Please be careful though as the Hybrid battery system is very high voltage.

seems to be a false alarm as others have said, all working today, so appears to be server end. Thanks

This car listed here was recently discussed on this forum: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201812123213416?sort=sponsored&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly New&onesearchad=New&make=LEXUS&model=LS 460&advertising-location=at_cars&page=2 21k miles - dealer price £14,995 Someone mentioned this was advertised privately for £7995

If you've fallen in love with the car and you really want it, pay somewhere between £11k --£12k. As you're asking us what you should do, I don't think you really want it. There is such a difference between the Base model and the SE-L. If you want a 460, wait for a good SE-L to come up.

OK, he's a friend. He's offering you first refusal on a car you know the history of, not a special price. You have a car you like, but suspect this may be an opportunity. Thye are different cars. So I suggest you use your friendship to request an all-day test drive. Go somewhere you fancy going, and see what you think after driving the 460 fr at least 4 hours. Then you should be able to make the choice that works for you. Good Luck!

Sounds a bit toppy to me. I paid a little more than that for a 2008 LS600h from a Lexus main dealer and that included a 3 year complete main dealer warranty. It did have 100k miles but it drives and looks like a new car [emoji3]. Sent from my LG-H870DS using Tapatalk

Bottom line is if you want an LS it is worth paying a little extra for a mint low miles car. I once bought a Mercedes 300ce 10 years old with 10000 dry miles. I paid over the odds from a Mercedes dealer, but the car had been serviced every 1000 miles and wasn't even run in. That car new in 1992 cost £42,000 and I paid £15000 for it 10 years later. But boy did I enjoy driving it. It never had any repairs other than routine servicing

Shifting to neutral before braking forces the use of the normal brakes since the regen cannot work in neutral. This method is also kinder to the tyres as you can use the brakes over a longer period while descending a hill. Going back into drive while still moving is not problematic or harmful. John.

If the price is right, go for it. When I moved to Holland I had to let my 400 go. I decided to get an RX400h...…….a nice car but, as my good lady said, 'It's not an LS'. So, after a very short time, the RX went and I bought a 2007 460 - exactly the same as the one you have been offered. That was 6 years ago and I haven't regretted it. The LS (any variety) is a mighty beast and a joy to own and drive. Apart from the few months with the RX, I have been an LS owner since 1997. The LS is, and always has been, my daily drive. I hope this helps your decision......if you want to know any more, just ask.

I quite like the look of it and would certainly, if I was in a position too financially, consider one. Turbo V6 is still good. Not V8 good but a good fit for the size and segment positioning of the car where it would likely compete with the C43, Audi S4 etc.

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before (apologies if it has), but I came across this article via a link on another Lexus forum. It confirms what everyone who has been driven in my LS600h has said, i.e. something along the lines of - wow, this is really quiet! http://elevatingsound.com/the-price-of-quiet-driving/ For me, the quiet and refined environment inside the LS is one of the best things about the car. Great to see the LS at the top of the list!

He's been trying to sell that one (and another 110k mile one for circa £4k) for a year or more. So, I think the market it answering your question... no, it is not worth £9k.

I was unable to take advantage of the offer alas. Christmas is a tricky time of year to get away and I use it to catch up on the back log of processing work I have. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

... those lights.... Prius on steroids... Otherwise, it totally makes sense. Assuming Lexus is not dropping IS... mk3 will be 8 years in 2021, meaning same year we can expect standard range of mk4 and following year all more niche examples, they need replacement for GS-F as well, so IS-F makes complete sense. RC-F can continue covering coupe segment. Secondly, engine option of V6-tt totally makes sense as well for several reasons, just maybe with ~600hp. So IS-F as entry model will have v6 and RC-F which is priced above and thus "more premium" would have V8. I would assume eventually RC-F would receive smaller V8-tt around the time for RC mk2 ~2023. As for Germans without N/A V8s - they do V8's just not N/A... which is fine because V8 is still V8 and that is what matters, turbo lag can be dealt with whereas it is hardly an issue anymore. The only question then what about LC, assuming I am correct and RC-F gets V8-tt, why would anyone get LC then? Maybe they will take SC move and just stop LC after ~6 years altogether, until the time comes to bridge some flagship gap and there is right market for it?

Must say.... Do like the RCF in a BMW Motorsport style colour scheme. A bit different 🙂

There is the driving position between the 2 cars - I would suggest an extended test drive would help in making your decision

Well, you appear to be correct since I have just done another quote, this time parking on the street, and it came out roughly £50 cheaper than on the driveway. This is frustrating and irrelevant though since I refuse to park my car on the street when I have a perfectly good drive in front of my house!

I used to work for a big major insurer and the reason insurance go up if you tell them you park on a drive or garage is because they think someone will break into your house for the keys and take your car. Also if your car is red, insurance premium go up and that's because they say it attracts thieves. I wouldn't bother with Adrian flux, they are not cheap and sometimes they won't bother insuring you. I went with brentacre but another good one is Chris Knott.

Before you change disks/pads you really need to ensure you regularly brake hard to keep the disks clean. Mine had this after purchase but the disks were very corroded. I renewed the disks/pads and all was smooth for a few miles. Then the pulsing started again and I wondered about warped disks. Until my MOT, after which all was smooth again. The brake test cleared up the pulsing :) Sitting at junctions with the brakes applied seems to leave friction material on parts of the disks that then causes pulsing when braking. Mostly regen braking under normal driving means that the pads don't clean up the disks sufficiently and will need a few good hard stops to clear the build up. Slamming on the brakes periodically keeps the pulsing in check. It's also easier and cheaper than fitting new disks every few miles ;)

OK, here we go...……..we spend 2 weeks every Xmas and New Year with family in Scotland. After taking the ferry from Amsterdam to Newcastle, we divide the time between the Loch Lomond area and Aviemore. This is Loch Lomond with Ben Lomond in the background: Loch Morlich (Aviemore) and the Cairngorms: The Strathspey Railway. The steam locomotive, 46512, is an ex-LMS Ivatt Class 2-6-0. The luxury locomotive in the foreground is my LS - which is a 4-6-0 🙂 My LS is almost 12 years old (a mere youngster in LS terms) and I do try to keep it in good condition - outside and in:

Interested in what you said about different makes. On my previous car I decided to switch from Pirellis to .Michelins, replacing the rear ones first. Because of the low annual mileage this Pirelli/ Michelin double act extended over several years and I noticed that the Michelins retained their new tyre sheen on the sidewalls whilst the Pirellis got to look somewhat shabby. Not a big effect but noticeable.

So..... so far i have DE-beiged,DE-wooded and now in process of DE-chroming 😆 rear L badge carbon wrapped with 3m 4D high gloss carbon wrap

Whilst I agree that most owners of current N.A V8 cars will bemoan the loss of the N.A engine, I believe we must see the reasons why manufacturers are going the turbocharging route. Porsche have done it with their latest 911 and if as expected this engine comes with the same state of tune as in the 2018 LS 500, then we would expect minimum 416bhp @6000rpm and at least 442 lb-ft@1,600-4,800 rpm. Thus the torque figures is a lot more than in the current V8, which is only 371 lb-ft@5,200 rpm. Thus I would argue that the new engine would be more powerful but may not sound as sweet as the old; but only time would tell. Happy new year to everyone.

I think the current N/A V8 models are the last of their kind. You can't get a german N/A V8 anymore, and ever tightening emissions regulations push down engine sizes and cylinder counts, with forced induction taking up the slack. However, very soon the performance game will move to EVs anyway.

I really hope that's not what the front lights will look like...

That doesn't look bad at all, I didn't know such a thing existed.

That'll be good PR for the car. Hope to see some footage you can see the black RCF in the trailer.

A new RCF will be unveiled at the Detroit Auto Show. Sources say it will be a Track Edition with more power than any Lexus currently in the market. Teaser pic only for now. We'll have to wait till 14th January 2019 for the reveal 😎 But that carbon fibre wing looks mighty tasty.

Dear santa, what I want for Christmas is .....

This confirms something I’ve thought for a long time. The VW golf is an over rated, under engineered piece of crap. Look at the noisiest cars and it’s there. Personally I’m sick to death of hearing about how “complete” a car a golf is and how it provides “premium car refinement” I can assure you from driving many models of these over the years they are a totally lousy car with no appeal whatsoever. Cheaply made, noisy (in a way that a cheap car is an an expensive one isn’t) and generally an all round pile of crap. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk